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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:02:37 +0100
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From: Petr Matousek
Subject: Re: ftp (bylo Hledate-li cokoliv...)
In-Reply-To:
Bohumil Chalupa said:
>Pak ma byt ta Amerika k dovolani, kdyz odtamtud lide tahaji zkusebne i
>nezkusebne ruzne Netscapy a Scany, ktere jsou tu uz davno nekolikrat
>ozrcadlene... :-(
Uz jsem zazil, ze na zrcadle s jednodennim obcerstvenim nebyl soubor ani
za 14 dni - a jindy zase na dvou zrcadlech stejny soubor poskozeny.
Ne, ze bych zrcadel nevyuzival - ale casto znamenaji zklamani.
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:40:56 +0200
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From: Jozef Slavkovsky
Subject: cierne WWW stranky
Cierne stranky WWW na Slovensku ????
Politika sem asi nepatri, ale musim reagovat, lebo si myslim,
ze demokracia este u nas nie je ohrozena.
Preco bolo treba TRESTNY ZAKON prijat, ale v trochu inej podobe !!!
1. Je tu nebezpecenstvo v podobe obnovy Velkeho Madarska, po ktorom
tuzia mnohi politici v Madarsku a u nas, treba si precitat knizku
od Ladislava Deaka TRIANON ILUZIE A SKUTOCNOST, aby ste pochopili,
aky je madarsky sovinizmus, ktory prebudza v Slovakoch nacionalizmus
ako reakciu nan.
Spomente si na patra Andreja Hlinku a udalosti v Cernovej.!!!
To nechcem !!!(nova BOSNA). Sv. Otec Jan Pavol II. tiez je proti
nacionalizmu. (minulorocna navsteva u nas - Nitra)
2. Hnutia, ktore maju nazov krestanske, nemaju bojovat proti NIEKOMU,
ale proti NIECOMU.
Teraz to NIECO su DROGY, penazne hry a hracie automaty.
Uz je dost znicenych zivotov mladych ludi, ktori podlahli tomuto zlu.
Prosim krestanske hnutia a strany, bojujte radsej proti tomuto !!!
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USTAVA Slovenskej republiky
DRUHA HLAVA - Zakladne prava a slobody
Treti oddiel - Politicke prava
Cl. 26
/1/Slobodu prejavu a pravo na informacie su zarucene.
/2/Kazdy ma pravo vyjadrovat svoje nazory slovom, pismom,
tlacou, obrazom alebo inym sposobom, ako aj slobodne prijimat
a rozsirovt idey a informacie bez ohladu na hranice statu.
Vydavanie tlace nepodlieha povolovaciemu konaniu. Podnikanie
v odbore rozhlasu a televizie sa moze viazat na povolenie
statu. Podmienky ustanovi zakon.
/3/Cenzura sa zakazuje.
/4/Slobodu prejavu a pravo vyhladavat a sirit informacie mozno
obmedzit zakonom, ak ide o opatrenia v demokratickej
spolocnosti nevyhnutne na ochranu prav a slobod inych,
bezpecnost statu, verejneho poriadku, ochranu verejneho zdravia
a mravnosti.
/5/Statne organy a organy uzemnej samospravy maju povinnost
primeranym sposobom poskytovat informacie o svojej cinnosti
v statnom jazyku. Podmienky ustanovi zakon.
Cl. 27
/1/Peticne pravo sa zarucuje. Kazdy ma pravo sam alebo s inimi
obracat sa vo veciach verejneho alebo ineho spolocneho zaujmu
na statne organy a organy uzemnej samospravy so ziadostami,
navrhmi a staznostami.
/2/Peticiu nemozno vyzyvat na porusovanie zakladnych prav
a slobod.
/3/Peticiu nemozno zasahovat do nezavislosti sudu.
Cl. 28
/1/Pravo pokojne sa zhromazdovat sa zarucuje.
/2/Podmienky vykonu tohto prava ustanovi zakon v pripadoch
zhromazdovania na verejnych miestach, ak ide o opatrenia
v demokratickej spolocnosti nevyhnutne na ochranu na prav
a slobod inych, ochranu verejneho poriadku, zdravia
a mravnosti, majetku alebo pre bezpecnost statu. Zhoromazdenie
sa nesmie podmienovat povolenim organu verejnej spravy.
Cl. 29
/1/Pravo slobodne sa zhromazdovat sa zarucuje. Kazdy ma pravo
spolu s inimi sa zdruzovat v spolkoch, spolocnostiach alebo
inych zdruzeniach.
/2/Obcania maju pravo zakladat politicke strany a politicke
hnutia a zdruzovat sa v nich.
/3/Vykon prav podla odsekov 1 a 2 mozno obmedzit len
v pripadoch ustanovenych zakonom, ak je to v demokratickej
spolocnosti nevyhnutne pre bezpecnost statu, na ochranu
verejneho poriadku, predchadzanie trestnym cinom alebo na
ochranu prav a slobod inych.
/4/Politicke strany a politicke hnutia, ako aj
spolky,spolocnosti alebo ine zdruzenia su oddelene od statu.
Cl. 30
/1/Obcania maju pravo zucastnovat sa na sprave verejnych veci
priamo alebo slobodnou volbou svojich zastupcov.
/2/Volby sa musia konat v lehotach nepresahujucich pravidelne
volebne obdobie ustanovene zakonom.
/3/Volebne pravo je vseobecne, rovne a priame a vykonava sa
tajnym hlasovanim. Podmienky vykonu volebneho prava ustanovi
zakon.
/4/Obcania maju za rovnakych podmienok pristup k volenym
a inym verejnym funkciam.
Cl. 31
Zakonna uprava vsetkych politickych prav a slobod a jej vyklad
a pouzivanie musia umoznovat a ochranovat slobodnu sutaz
politickych sil v demokratickej spolocnosti.
Tento clanok by nemal byt v TRESTNOM ZAKONE byt poruseny
!!!! Cl. 32 !!!!
Obcania maju pravo postavit sa na odpor proti kazdemu, kto by
odstranoval demokraticky poriadok ludskych prav a zakladnych
slobod uvedenych v tejto ustave, ak cinnost ustavnych organov
a ucinne pouzitie zakonnych prostriedkov su znemoznene.
Stvrty oddiel - Prava narodnostnych mensin a etnickych skupin
Cl. 33
Prislusnost ku ktorejkolvek narodnostnej mensine alebo etnickej
skupine nesmie byt nikomu na ujmu.
Cl. 34
/1/Obcanom tvoriacim v Slovenskej republike narodnostne
mensiny alebo etnicke skupiny sa zarucuje vsestranny rozvoj,
najma pravo spolocne s inymi prislusnikmi mensiny alebo skupiny
rozvijat vlasnu kulturu, pravo rozsirovat a prijimat informacie
v ich materinskom jazyku, zdruzovat sa v narodnostnych
zdruzeniach, zakladat a udrziavat vzdelavacie a kulturne
institucie. Podrobnosti ustanovi zakon.
/2/Obcanom patriacim k narodnostnym mensinam alebo etnickym
skupinam sa za podmienok ustanovenych zakonom zarucuje okrem
prava na osvojenie si statneho jazyka aj
a/pravo na vzdelavanie v ich jazyku,
b/pravo pouzivat ich jazyk v uranom styku,
c/pravo zucastnovat sa na rieseni veci tykajucich sa
narodnostnych mensin a etnickych skupin.
!!!! /3/Vykon prav obcanov patriacich k narodnostnym mensinam
a etnickym skupinam zarucenych v tejto ustave nesmie viest
k ohrozeniu zvrchovanosti a uzemnej celistvosti Slovenskej
republiky a k diskriminacii jej ostatneho obyvatelstva. !!!!
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:36:23 +0200
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From: Petr Snajdr
Subject: Re: ftp (bylo Hledate-li cokoliv...)
In-Reply-To:
> vlastnost OS, oboji?), ale ftp pod Unixem mi chodi mnohem rychleji, nez
> ve Windows za stejnych podminek.
>
me taky.
prenaseli jsme 4 soubory po 1.44 kB z Prahy do Brna.
ja je tahal pres SunOS k sobe a odsebe na jinou brnenskou domenu.
Kolega totez,ale primo na tu domenu.
Zajimave,ze ja i se zastavkou na mem disku jsem prekopirova 3 soubory ve
stejne dobe jako on jeden...
jo..jsou veci mezi nebem a zemi .....
S pozdravem
Petr snajdr
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 07:03:20 DST
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From: "Ing.Sarkoezy Dionyz"
Subject: politika
In-Reply-To: <199604010440.AA07274@savba.savba.sk> from "Jozef Slavkovsky" at
"Apr 1, 96 6:40 am"
>
> Cierne stranky WWW na Slovensku ????
>
> Politika sem asi nepatri, ale musim reagovat, lebo si myslim,
> ze demokracia este u nas nie je ohrozena.
>
>
Skutocne, je vela inych diskuznych skupin urcenych pre diskuziu
o politike. Oni sa nemiesaju do *miestnych problemov o sietiach*.
Na ohrozenie demokracie su rozne nazory. Aj o tych by sa malo diskutovat
inde. Jednoducho: nemiesajme hrusky s jablkami.
S pozdravom Dionyz Sarkoezy
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:45:41 +0100
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From: Vladislav Cerny
Subject: Re: vicenasobne zretezeni
At 13:40 29.3.1996 MET, you wrote:
> Prijemny den.
>
> Chci se zeptat na nasledujici : Mam program v MS-DOS, ktery vypisuje
> na obrazovku vysledky sve cinnosti. Vystup lze presmerovat i do
> souboru.
> Jde vubec nejak vypisovat jak na obrazovku, tak do souboru ?
>
> Jednoduche analogicke pokusy napr. s prikazem DIR :
>
> DIR >con >>c:\vypis.txt nefunguji. Intuitivne by imaginarni prikaz
> vypadal (DIR > con) >> c:\vypis.txt
> Chci mu vnutit - vypis vysledek na obrazovku a tento obrazovkovy
> vypis dej do souboru. Bohuzel zadavatel problemu se nespokoji s
> resenim : 1.radka batche DIR > con
> 2.radka batche DIR >> c:\vypis.txt
>
> Dekuji za jakoukoli odpoved.
>
> Martin Slepicka (slepicka@zce.cz)
> Plzen, Zapadoceska energetika
>
Reseni je velice jednoduche, protoze v Pascalu lze snadno napsat vlastni
ovladace textovych zarizeni. Staci napsat vlastni ovladac, ktery bude
provadet vystup jak do souboru, tak na monitor, viz str. 172 (Text-file
device crivers) v manu=E1lu Borland Pascal with objects - Language guide.
Tento postup lze vyuzit i jinak, napr. pro napsani vlastniho
ovladace, ktery pri zapisu do souboru provadi konverzi (kodu cestiny nebo
sifrovani), komprimaci apod. Nebo muze automaticky pozastavit vypis po
vypsani 25 r. na monitor (vlastni filtr MORE) a dalsi a dalsi zpusoby=
pouziti.
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Vladislav Cerny
e-Mail: black@cdrail.cz CD s.o., CIT o.z.
Susicka 25
Tel. : +42 19 2122372 307 02 Plzen
Czech republic
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:04:04 GMT+1
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From: "Krucinsky Ladislav,5262,K306,modem"
Organization: VA BRNO
Subject: Obchod se SW pro Amigu v Brne !!! SPECHA TO !!!
Brej den.
Mam tady v Brne do patku kolegu z Polska a rad by nakoupil nejaky
SW pro Amigu. Muzete mi sdelit, zda je v Brne nejaky rozumny obchod?
Pokud vam to pripada silne OFF TOPIC, muzete odpovedet primo na
Email. Dekuji.
Ing. Ladislav Krucinsky, VA - K306, Brno, CZ
phone: +0042 5 4118 5262
e-mail: lak@scova.vabo.cz
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:16:56 +0200
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From: Petr Skoda
Subject: WTB: 387SL25
Dobri lide, pomozte !!
Potrebuji nutne sehnat do jednoho postarsiho notebooku
koprocesor 387SL25 MHZ v takovem tom provedeni bez nozicek (resp jsou
nejak zkrouceny do oblouku a do patice se jen zacvakne) - podobne jako
maji nektere nove videokarty pro rozsireni pameti - nevim, jak se to
odborne jmenuje.
Kazdy typ, kde se takove historicke relikvie ;-) mohu doptat bohate
odmenim, pripadneho prodejce zasypu (virtualnim) zlatem a (drahymi)
kameny ;-))
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:19:43 +0200
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From: Ivan Vavra
Subject: Re: ftp (bylo Hledate-li cokoliv...)
In-Reply-To:
On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, Bohumil Chalupa wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, Dan Lukes wrote:
>
> > (Napr posledne, prenos Netscape 2.01 z Ameriky
> > hluboko v noci simultanne via BITFTP i normalni FTP. Postou - 70 minut,
>
> Pak ma byt ta Amerika k dovolani, kdyz odtamtud lide tahaji zkusebne
> i nezkusebne ruzne Netscapy a Scany, ktere jsou tu uz davno nekolikrat
> ozrcadlene... :-(
>
> Bohumil Chalupa, KFK MFF UK
>
Vazeni kolegove,
omlouvam se, pokud Vam muj vstup do diskuze se bude zdati trochu nevhodnym,
ale s tim 'ozrcadlenim' to neni tak zcela pravda. Uvedu priklad:
oak.oakland.edu, zde najdete 'simtel', ktery ma zrcadlo na mnoha mistech
ve svete a samozrejme i Praze. Najde te vsak zde i 'SimTel'(velke S a T)
Po kratsim ohledani zjistite ze se zde nalezaji programy jine a
mladsiho data nez v 'simtelu' predchozim. Jinak souhlasim, ze je zbytecne
tahat neco pres pul sveta, kdyz to mam za rohem (od toho jsou 00index.txty..).
Jeste k 'tahani': Je tez mozne si napsat program, ktery otestuje prenosovou
linku a v pripade, ze je dosti rychla provede prenos predtim zjisteneho,
zdrojove texty ruznych FTP (vetsinou v C)jsou k disposici na siti.
Vyzdobit se to pak da napr. ve Visual Basicu... Makro pro prenos (ftp)
podadresaru jsem tu jiz inzeroval. Myslim, ze toto jsou
veci hodne pozornosti. Tez si myslim, ze v 'americe' jiste netravi noci
'tahanim' programu z vychodni evropy, ale radej je sami pisi a tudy ze
cesta vede :^).
Ivan Vavra
SAVT - Center for Automation and Computing
Institute of Physics
Academy of Sciences of Czech Republic e-mail: vavra@fzu.cz
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:03:50 MET
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From: Rostislav Kocman
Organization: Studovna SKM VUT Brno
Subject: Re: cierne WWW stranky
> Cierne stranky WWW na Slovensku ????
> Politika sem asi nepatri, ale musim reagovat, lebo si myslim,
> ze demokracia este u nas nie je ohrozena.
Mate pravdu, politika sem vubec nepatri.
> Preco bolo treba TRESTNY ZAKON prijat, ale v trochu inej podobe !!!
> Jozef Slavkovsky
Chapu Vas, ze musite za svou vlast bojovat s klavesnici v ruce,
ale naprosto nechapu, proc mi musi chodit Ustava SR a vypis
trestniho zakona zeme - o jejiz demokraticke vlade ma kazdy jiste
svuj nazor (vcetne US kongresu)- ktera me vubec nezajima.
Pokud vas to potesi, muzete si svoje WWWpages obarvit na rudo, ale
hlavne se prihlaste do jine skupiny.
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:57:20 +0200
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From: Martin Vystavil
Subject: Re: cierne WWW stranky - Ukoncenie
In-Reply-To: <118D00432BE@st.skm.vutbr.cz> from "Rostislav Kocman" at Apr 1,
96 02:03:50 pm
Zdravim,
ospravedlnujem sa za cross-posting do tohto listu.
Dakujem za reakcie
Martin
--
Martin Vystavil Email: vystavil@savba.sk
Computing Center Voice: +42-7-374-422
the Slovak Academy of Sciences Fax : +42-7-375-881
Dubravska cesta 9 PGP : ftp.savba.sk/pub/PGPkeys
Bratislava 842 35, Slovak Republic WWW : http://www.savba.sk/~comcmavy/
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:58:00 MET
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From: "J.Kastl"
Subject: Re: ftp (bylo Hledate-li cokoliv...)
In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:59:51 -0100 from
On Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:59:51 -0100 Bohumil Chalupa said:
>On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, Dan Lukes wrote:
>
>> (Napr posledne, prenos Netscape 2.01 z Ameriky
>> hluboko v noci simultanne via BITFTP i normalni FTP. Postou - 70 minut,
>> FTP 130 minut - a neni to vubec vyjimecny vysledek, zkousel jsem to v
>> ruzne mesice v ruzne denni i nocni doby na ruzne velkych
>> prenosech nekolikrat).
>
>Pak ma byt ta Amerika k dovolani, kdyz odtamtud lide tahaji zkusebne
>i nezkusebne ruzne Netscapy a Scany, ktere jsou tu uz davno nekolikrat
>ozrcadlene... :-(
>
Ja mam s poradkem a spolehnutim se nase mirrory a servery vubec ty
nejhorsi zkusenosti ! Mnohokrate se vyplati dlouho cekat na prenos
z Ameriky nez pak 2 tydny patrat, zda to nebylo na mirroru spatne !!
( Zrovna minuly tyden jsem mel problem nalezt aktualni odkaz do Hy-
telnetu - i kdyz to je trochu neco jineho.)
Proc ale je prenos pres FTP pomalejsi ? Ja take asi od zari
1995 pocituji mnohem pomalejsi odezvy z Ameriky. Ba co vice, od te
doby, mi Traceroute zacal ukazovat cesty, ktere se do lonskeho leta
nikdy neobjevily - jako treba do Kanady pres Kalifornii a podobne.
Predevsim je treba pro prenos pres BITFTP si uvedomit, ze cesta
souboru vedla pres jine uzly a tim asi i jinymi spoji, nez to impli-
citne delaji routery mezi nami a Amerikou.
Uz v roce 1992 na konferenci NSC se hovorilo o tom, ze poroste-li
Internet tak rychle jako dosud, stanou se nejvetsim problemem
"algorimty" pro optimalni routovani datagramu na vzdalene adresy .
Mohlo by to prave znamena, ze jsme se do takove situace jiz dostali,
s IP-adresami od nas rada routeru v Americe asi explicite nevi, co
udelat. Navic pres BITFTP@PUCC.bitnet jde cela odpoved (alespon to
tak bylo jeste v breznu) az do CSEARNu pres EARNove spojeni, z DEARNu
se pro dopisy pouziva hned SMTP z Internetu, ale zde se da prepokla-
dat, ze se snadno nalezne cesta, kam datagarmy posilat.
Jeste me napada, ze by to chtelo vyzkouset BITFTP@PLEARN (v Polsku).
( BITFTP@PLEARN.EDU.PL ). "Polske" IP-adresy by mohly mit zrovna ta-
kove problemy s default-routovanim, jako nase. A tedy prenosem pres
BITFTP v Polsku by se mohlo dosahnout tak pomalych casu, jako primo
od nas. ( I kdyz prave existenci BITFTP by mohly "polske" IP-adresy
dosahnout lepsi "znamosti".)
Se srdecnym pozdravem
Jan Kastl
P.S.
Stejne je velka skoda, ze takove postaveni jako ma "PLEARN" pro vy-
chodni anebo Viden pro jihovychodni Evropu neziskala misto nich Praha.
Ted proste musime cekat 2 hodiny na FTP z Ameriky.
(Jenom mi, prosim Vas, na tuhle poznamku neodepisujte, jak je to pro
nas levnejsi a pohodlnejsi!)
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SGI responds to growing Intranet trend
//In response to a growing trend of large corporations using
the Web for internal use, Silicon Graphics has announced
a new strategy combining hardware and software for
enterprise clients. Called WebForce Intranet, the turn-key
product highlights Netscape's recently announced
SuiteSpot server software, single and multiple processor
SGI servers and SGI workstations.//
(ii960322-001) (433 words)
CeBIT -- Multi-Pentium desktops on show at CeBIT
//Confirming prototype systems shown at the Comdex Fall
computer show in the US last November, IBM, Digital
Equipment, and Hewlett-Packard were busy showing off
multi- processor Pentium systems at this year's CeBIT
Computer Faire in Germany.//
(ii960322-002) (428 words)
DEC introduces midrange AlphaStation workstations
//The new AlphaStation 255 is targeted at the "low
midrange," whereas the AlphaStation 500 is geared to the
"high midrange" market.//
(ii960322-003) (491 words)
IBM crowing over System/390 server strategy
//Mainframes aren't dying, they're just turning into big
servers. Claiming to have shipped more mainframe
processing power in 1995 than in any previous year, IBM
is patting itself on the back over the success of its large
server technology strategy.//
(ii960322-004) (758 words)
Fujitsu's ICL losses, new European PC company
//Fujitsu and ICL, its UK computing operation, have
announced the creation of Fujitsu Personal Systems
Business Group, a European company that will handle
both companies' PC sales operations in Europe.
Meanwhile, Fujitsu has lowered its income forecast by
28% after ICL posted losses of US$297 million loss and
said it was reorganizing.//
(ii960322-005) (438 words)
Home PC market growth slows through 1990s -- Dataquest
//According to Dataquest's latest study, the home PC
market, which witnessed 42% growth in 1994, will taper to
7.6% in 1996, and continue to slow through 1999. The
number of homes with PCs will grow by 4% this year over
a 29% figure in 1995.//
(ii960322-006) (326 words)
DEC launches new HiNote Notebook Line
//Digital Equipment Corp. has done over its HiNote line of
notebook computers. The new HiNote lineup is entirely
based on Intel's Pentium processors.//
(ii960322-007) (363 words)
CeBIT -- IBM unveils ThinkPad 465E series
//IBM has taken the wraps off a budget range of
ThinkPads. According to officials with Big Blue, the new
ThinkPads offer the company's trademark style, innovation
and reliability at the most affordable prices ever. The
ThinkPad 365E series starts at just UKP 1670 ($2,500),
with CD-ROM versions starting from around UKP 210
($370) extra.//
(ii960322-008) (373 words)
CeBIT -- Apple introduces new MessagePad 130
//Apple Computer introduced the MessagePad 130 with
Newton 2.0 as its operating system at Germany's CeBit
computer show. The new model represents a high-end,
feature-rich version of MessagePad 120 and is not
intended as a replacement.//
(ii960322-009) (366 words)
Sharp teams up with Alcatel for mobile multimedia
//Japan's Sharp and Alcatel of France have announced an
agreement to work together on mobile telecommunications
and multimedia applications and products. The two
companies will initially work to produce a next- generation
personal communicator.//
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DEC Storage Products to adopt fiber channel
//Digital Equipment Corp. will now join the growing ranks
of vendors that are starting to support fiber channel in their
storage products. The products, to be provided "in parallel"
with ultra SCSI, will start shipping to OEMs late this year,
with systems to become commercially available in early
1997.//
(ii960322-011) (706 words)
DEC unveils PowerStorm 2-D, 3-D, & "4-D" graphics
//Digital Equipment Corp.'s newly announced series of
PowerStorm graphics options for Alpha workstations
brings together 2-D and 3-D graphics capabilities, together
with 4-D features that "add motion," into one "branded
family," according to Digital's Keith LeFebre.//
(ii960322-012) (436 words)
Texas Instruments chip doubles answering recording time
//Texas Instruments says it has introduced a new family of
microprocessors for use in digital telephone answering
devices (TADs) that double the message recording time,
and adds several new features.//
(ii960322-013) (387 words)
Virtual Reality comes to TV
//Virtual I-O has introduced new versions of its virtual
reality headsets for television watchers, video gamers, and
PC users.//
(ii960322-014) (474 words)
CeBIT -- Boxlight's personal PC projector
//Boxlight Corporation, the Poulsbo, Washington-based
company is previewing, what it claims is, a "revolutionary"
personal projector at the CeBIT Computer Faire, which
runs over the next week in Hannover, Germany.//
(ii960322-015) (452 words)
External hard drive add-0n for PC
//Adaptec has announced a new hard drive with an
external connection, and a SCSI host adapter for the PC.
The new Power Storage Hard Drive Kit has a 1 GB
external hard drive, and a kit that requires less than 30
minutes installation time, according to the company.//
(ii960322-016) (518 words)
Exabyte introduces large-capacity tape drive
//The Eagle Division of Exabyte has introduced its first
product, a large-capacity, high-performance tape backup
system. The TR-3 system is based on the TraVan
technology and is compatible with a number of different
minicartridges and QIC industry standards.//
(ii960322-017) (366 words)
Sony introduces digital camera
//Sony Electronics has announced its entry into the digital
still camera market with the DKC-ID1 which stores images
at a resolution of 768 by 576 pixels.//
(ii960322-018) (447 words)
Review -- NEC PC-DC401 digital still camera
//Review of NEC's PC-DC401 digital still camera featuring
a CCD pickup and the ability to store images on a memory
card for instant viewing on a PC.//
(ii960322-019) (900 words)
Apple colors input and output with new devices
//Apple Computer says its new Color OneScanner 600/27
is designed to meet a new world of users in schools, small
offices and homes. Expanding on its color for everyone
marketing plan, the company also announced two new
color inkjet printers, Color StyleWriter 1500 and Color
StyleWriter 2500.//
(ii960322-020) (472 words)
Taiwan's Umax forms new US subsidiary
//Umax Data Systems Inc. (UDS), has announced the
formation of a new US subsidiary, called NewSoft Inc. The
new company will develop, market, and distribute software
applications, with initial focus on scanning and image
processing, multimedia, communications, and Internet-
related technologies.//
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Bankers hear Microsoft's Money strategy
//Two hundred bankers and banking application software
developers convened at Microsoft headquarters earlier this
week to hear the software company's strategy for Money,
its personal finance software.//
(ii960322-022) (470 words)
Java much more than a "lightweight browser"
//"Java is not just a lightweight browser," contends Sun
Microsystems' John De Armon. To the contrary, Java is
now being tested by the R.R. Donnelley & Sons printing
company and a number of other large users for
"enterprise-class" Intranet and Internet applications that
will "change the way business is done," according to De
Armon.//
(ii960322-023) (803 words)
Avid introduces MCXpress for "media entrepreneurs"
//Avid's newly announced MCXpress is aimed at a new
class of users, known as "media entrepreneurs," who have
learned to perform professional video editing on the Mac
or Windows platforms, and who have now "gone off on
their own" to produce video for the Web, CD-ROM,
broadcasting, and other media.//
(ii960322-024) (686 words)
Digital, SAP unveil 1st R/3 for Windows NT on RISC
//A newly unveiled deal to port SAP's R/3 to Digital
Equipment Corp.'s AlphaServer running Windows NT,
billed as bringing the first Windows NT implementation of
R/3 for RISC, is targeted at the high end of the Windows
NT market.//
(ii960322-025) (545 words)
10,000 "screened" shareware titles from ZD-Net on Web
//Ziff- Davis Interactive (ZDI) has announced a new
searchable library on the Web contains 10,000 carefully
selected shareware titles.//
(ii960322-026) (499 words)
Java news and applets
//Java-related news from online news services
(http://blueridge.infomkt.ibm.com/knudsen/javanews.html),
applets and programs (http://www.new-home.com/jr/),
Java Counter -- a page access counter that uses an
animated odometer-like display
(http://www.chamisplace.com/dev/java/counter.html).//
(ii960322-027) (139 words)
Java-Based Web paging service, market report
//Betting on Java's advancement as a Web technology,
the company BulletProof.com says it is introducing two
products based on Sun Microsystems' Java. One is a
wireless alphanumeric and e-mail paging interface, while
the other is a stock tracker.//
(ii960322-028) (359 words)
Apple upgrades system 7.5 OS to 2.0
//Apple Computer has announced the availability of
System 7.5 update 2.0 at no cost. Designed to deliver
increased system performance, better network
communications, and a "richer multimedia experience,"
Update 2.0 also includes Open Transport 1.1.//
(ii960322-029) (200 words)
Correction -- 3M unveils Post-It Notes in software format
(ii960322-030) (160 words)
SPA puts pressure on software pirates
//The SPA is getting fewer reports of piracy at large
organizations, a fact which he said indicates that larger
outfits at least have got the message about piracy. Now
the SPA is putting more emphasis on nabbing smaller
pirates. Those who previously thought they were small
enough that they wouldn't be pursued are beginning to
learn that they can no longer get away with piracy.//
(ii960322-031) (414 words)
Bentley to combine GIS & CAD for "geoengineering"
//Bentley Systems' upcoming MicroStation GeoGraphics
software, set to ship at the end of this month, will combine
capabilities from CAD and the fast growing arena of GIS
for the emerging market of "geoengineering".//
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()
CeBIT -- Nokia unveils Communicator 9000
//Nokia Mobile Phones of Finland managed to scoop its
rivals with the launch of not one, but four different mobile
phone products. Company President Pekka Ala-Pieti La
explained that the company was launching the full range
at CeBIT '96 to alert networks, distributors and customers
that Nokia would be offering the "future shock" products
this year, not at some distant date in the future.//
(ii960322-033) (467 words)
CeBIT -- Next-generation cellphones unveiled
//While Nokia's 80386-based Communicator 9000
cellphone drew a lot of attention at the CeBIT Computer
Faire in Germany earlier this week, Ericsson was quietly
talking about -- and showing -- the next generation of
cellphones.//
(ii960322-034) (416 words)
VLSI & Dialogic chip quadruples switching capacity
//VLSI Technology has announced it will market a new
timeslot interchange IC, called the SC4000. The chip was
designed in cooperation with Dialogic.//
(ii960322-035) (465 words)
CeBIT -- Zoom Telephonics' CTI
//Zoom Telephonics is a name normally associated with
asynchronous modems, so it comes as something of a
surprise to discover that the company launched its first
CTI (computer telephony integration) unit, the ComStar
speakerphone faxmodem PC card, at the Cebit Computer
Faire.//
(ii960322-036) (400 words)
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COMPUTERS/SYSTEMS ()
UK -- Husky Computers' GSM data cards an internal
option
//Husky Computers, which claims to be the world's leading
rugged computer system supplier, has announced it is
offering a GSM data facility on its notebook PCs.//
(ii960329-001) (324 words)
Canon adds 6X-drive, 133Mhz chip to notebooks
//Canon Computer Systems has announced four new
multimedia-centered notebooks under its Innova Book line
of portable PCs.//
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COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY: CHIPS, COMPONENTS,
PERIPHERALS ()
Microtek mid-range scanner for $599
//Microtek Lab Inc., is unveiling a new 30-bit scanner that
offers high resolution at a "mid-range price." The new
ScanMaker E6 joins the ScanMaker E3, a single-pass 24-
bit scanner released earlier this year, as the newest
members of the Microtek ScanMaker scanners.//
(ii960329-003) (565 words)
Diamond Multimedia bundles Microsoft's Web browser
//The battle of the Internet browsers continues as Diamond
Multimedia and Microsoft agreed to bundle Microsoft's
Internet Explorer 2.0 with selected Diamond multimedia
accelerators, modems, and ISDN products. Facing
Netscape's more than 80% share of the browser market,
Microsoft is on a campaign to capture a larger percentage
of the Internet browser market as part of its Internet
strategy.//
(ii960329-004) (407 words)
Check fraud and what steps can be taken to protect your
institutions against it - Printech
//The advent and availability of electronic publishing,
advanced scanning and color copiers available in the
market today are providing enormous alteration and
duplication capabilities for fraud artists so it has become
imperative for companies to be aware of the techniques
available to protect themselves against check fraud.//
(ii960329-005) (796 words)
Adaptec introduces PCI-to-UltraSCSI single-chip solution
//Adaptec has introduced its first PCI-to-8-bit UltraSCSI
controller chip targeted at low-end servers, desktops,
docking stations and laptops.//
(ii960329-006) (383 words) (PR)
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()
More than 60 new products to be unveiled at DB/EXPO '96
in San Francisco
//The world's leading database, client/server, data
warehouse and internet conference and exposition
promises to be even bigger this year with the introduction
of more than 60 new products and services from a wide
range of high profile vendors. DB/EXPO '96, which will be
held at San Francisco's Moscone Center on April 16-18.
Internet and Intranet conference debuts at DB/EXPO "96
with special exposition attractions -- Web Center and
Internet Village.//
(ii960329-007) (4,278 words) (PR)
Database World -- Sybase IQ, Web.sql for "quick" queries
//In a press and customers' event at Database &
Client/Server World in Boston, Sybase unveiled Sybase
IQ, a layer of middleware aimed at dramatically cutting the
time it takes to query and analyze complex data. Officials
also demo'd the use of Sybase IQ with Sybase Web.sql, a
Web server-based software product, now in beta, for
accessing either Sybase IQ or Sybase SQL Server over
an Internet or the Internet.//
(ii960329-008) (1,045 words)
DB World -- APT introduces Orchestrate for parallel
RDBMS
//Two or three years from now, "data mining" applications
based on parallel databases and neural networking will be
commonplace, but development tools must first become
easier to use, maintained Applied Parallel Technologies'
(APT) Robert Utzschneider, in a meeting about the
company's newly unveiled Orchestrate in the IBM suite at
Database & Client/Server World.//
(ii960329-009) (470 words)
Quarterdeck's CD-ROM accelerator
//Quarterdeck says it is shipping a 32-bit turbocharger
which improves CD-ROM performance and speed for
Windows 95. Using a special caching technology,
SpeedyROM is able to determine which data is most
frequently accessed and readies that data for subsequent
searches.//
(ii960329-010) (200 words)
SunSoft announces strategic relationship with ILOG to
deliver component gateway between java and C++
//SunSoft has announced a joint development project,
TwinPeaks, with ILOG, Inc., a leading provider of high-
performance and easy-to-use business application
components, to build a component gateway between Java
and C++ objects. The agreement will deliver the first Java
to C++ business application component gateway to
developers.//
(ii960329-011) (591 words) (PR)
SunSoft adopts GUI builder for Java from Active Software
for SunSoft Java Workshop
//SunSoft has announced a technology alliance with Active
Software that provides software for distributed Internet and
Intranet applications. As part of this agreement, Active
Software's GUI builder for Java will be incorporated into
SunSoft's Java WorkShop, an integrated Web-centric
development tool for new media and client/server
developers.//
(ii960329-012) (439 words) (PR)
SCO broadens customer service and support in North
America with new Authorized Support Centers
//SCO has announced the certification and signing of two
new Authorized Support Centers (ASCs), Multi-User
Solutions and Enterprise Support Services Inc. (ESS).//
(ii960329-013) (652 words)
Adaptec ships LAN Emulation software
//Adaptec is now shipping LAN Emulation software that
enables customers to deploy ATM clients and servers into
their existing networks.//
(ii960329-014) (518 words) (PR)
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()
Gandalf launches strategic direction through innovative
technologies
//Gandalf Technologies has announced its statement of
direction towards establishing market leadership in the
teleworking and Internet service provider marketplaces.
This strategic direction is being launched with the
unveiling of new services, products and technology
enhancements that address the specific needs of
teleworkers and mobile users who require complete end-
to-end solutions for accessing corporate resources and the
Internet. The new additions include RemoteConnect,
technology enhancements, encryption, expanded product
family.//
(ii960329-015) (1,951 words) (PR)
HP & Stanford Telecom in wireless technology deal
//Hewlett-Packard and Stanford Telecommunications have
signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) to work
together to develop local multipoint distribution service
(LMDS) technology. LMDS is a digital wireless, two-way
broadband technology designed to allow network
integrators and communication service providers to
inexpensively bring a range of high-value, quality services
to homes and businesses.//
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NETWORKING & COMMUNICATIONS SOFTWARE
()
Novell & Quarterdeck team on NetWare IPX Web
technology
//Novell has teamed up with Quarterdeck to develop a
package to allow NetWare users to access their internal
Web servers via Novell's IPX protocol.//
(ii960329-017) (439 words)
M.I.S. Europe Ltd. launches its PC security products to
help combat computer crime
//M.I.S. Europe Limited announced on 27. 3. 96 the
release of Windows versions of its FortressOE computer
security products.//
(ii960329-018) (451 words)
Wall Data ships Rumba Office for Windows 95/NT
//Wall Data is now shipping its Rumba Office 95/NT
version 5.0.//
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NETWORKING & COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES,
BUSINESS ()
Netcom to "redefine" Internet service provider role
//National Internet provider Netcom On-Line
Communications says it will redefine the definition of an
Internet service provider (ISP) with the introduction of
Personal Services. Starting with a customized, daily news
service, called PersonalNews, Netcom's Personal
Services will be developed over the coming months as a
value-added service to an existing $19.95 per month
unlimited usage service.//
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ONLINE BUSINESS ()
The robot exclusion standard - how to keep robots
(crawlers, spiders, worms, etc.) from accessing your Web
site
//A robot exclusion standard has been proposed to assist
you in keeping robots (crawlers, spiders, worms, etc.) from
accessing your Web site. Most robots are respecting the
proposed standard which can prevent access by
EVERYONE in the networked world to ALL of your Web
documents - which may in some cases by highly
UNDESIREABLE.//
(ii960401-021) (1,815 words)
America Online's private networks to rival Lotus Notes?
//America Online Inc. is getting serious about the business
of creating internal networks for businesses. The online
service company has set up a new division called America
Online Enterprise to provide packages of Internet access,
electronic-mail, and other services on private business
networks.//
(ii960329-022) (382 words)
Internet update
//This is today's roundup of new and updated resources
and services available via the global Internet, including:
international telecommunications information; Modified
presents online music mixing; resources for Windows NT
users; virtual hologram museum; writers, designers,
photographers Web site; Planet Science daily science
news; updated special Internet connections; HTML book in
German; new on Usenet; online today.//
(ii960329-023) (884 words)
Telecom execs foresee rapid shift to online sales
//In overwhelming numbers, top telecommunications
executives say their industry is being revolutionized by
interactive multimedia, although their employees may
have different thoughts, according to a survey by the
Alliance for Converging Technologies.//
(ii960329-024) (657 words)
Microsoft Network reaches one million subscribers
//Microsoft's Microsoft Network (MSN) is the fastest
starting Internet online service in history, Microsoft officials
claim, with more than one million members signing on via
the company's Windows 95 OS. Now, MSN officials say
they are looking towards the future, where MSN will be
rooted in the architecture of the Web.//
(ii960329-025) (476 words)
E-Span opens access to "ResumePro Database"
//E-Span, an online career service provider, has opened
posting access to its "ResumePro Database." The service
will give consumers the ability to display their business
credentials before E-Span's nearly 2,000 corporate clients
connected to the Internet.//
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GENERAL & MISCELLANEOUS ()
Virtual reality medical training
//Doctors attending this week's American College of
Cardiology (ACC) conference in Orlando, Florida, can
experience first-hand how to open up blocked arteries that
cause heart attacks. Wearing state-of-the-art virtual reality
helmets, physicians can reportedly feel as if they are being
miniaturized and injected into the heart's left atrium.//
(ii960329-027) (438 words)
Multimedia training for office networks
//Anderson Soft-Teach has announced the network version
of their SmartTrainer line of multimedia training products
for Windows and the Microsoft Office. Employing
"scalable" multimedia technology, the new version allows
the customer to tailor the level of multimedia delivered in
a network environment.//
(ii960329-028) (495 words)
Softbank continues US buying spree, more to come
//Softbank has signed a letter of intent to make a
substantial investment in Interactive Marketing (IMI), a US
company with interests in many of the areas that Softbank
and its subsidiaries already operate. The news comes as
the latest in a string of US purchases the company, led by
Masayoshi Son, a man described as "Japan's Bill Gates,"
has made.//
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COMPUTERS/SYSTEMS ()
Fujitsu claims fastest tablet PC
//Fujitsu Personal Systems Inc. has introduced the Stylistic
1000, which the company claims is the world's most
powerful color tablet PC. Fujitsu says the the new color
tablet PC, powered by a 100 MHz 486 microprocessor, is
the fastest available on the market today.//
(ii960327-001) (527 words)
A banking ATM in your home?
//Tom Dittrich wants to install an automatic teller machine
(ATM) in your home. However, the ATM would not be one
of those refrigerator-sized machines found at most banks,
but a software package that provides ATM-like services
from your PC.//
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COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY: CHIPS, COMPONENTS,
PERIPHERALS ()
AMD ready to ship K5 processor?
//Unconfirmed media reports say Advanced Micro Devices
is ready to ship its K5 microprocessor to OEMs.
Developed to compete with Intel's Pentium chips, AMD's
K5, renamed 5K86, will supposedly ship as low-priced 75
and 90 MHz models, while the company secretly focuses
on a P7 chip.//
(ii960327-003) (521 words)
UK -- Chip theft gang caught
//British Police have announced they have smashed a
computer chip theft gang, following the arrest of five men
in an aborted burglary carried out earlier this month on a
Southampton high street bank.//
(ii960327-004) (431 words)
National Semi super I/Os with fast IR
//National Semiconductor announced two new Super I/Os
with integrated 4Mbpsfast infrared (Fast IR) technology.
National's new Fast IR products will provide PC designers
with high-speed wireless data transfer with any IrDA
(Infrared Data Association) compliant device.//
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SOFTWARE, APPLICATIONS DEVELOPMENT
()
New Fulcrum software builds on text-search engine
//Fulcrum Technologies is building on its SearchServer
text-retrieval software with two new software products, one
of which is the company's first shrink-wrapped package.
The company also updated Surfboard, its search software
for Internet and Intranet servers.//
(ii960327-006) (565 words)
North American PC applications sales hit $7.53 Bil in 1995
//Windows are up, while DOS and Macs are down, as PC
application software sales in the US and Canada reached
$7.53 billion in 1995, a 12% increase from a revised $6.7
billion in 1994, according to the SPA.//
(ii960327-007) (538 words)
SystemSoft ships Zoomed video software, Toshiba deal
//SystemSoft's newly shipping PC Card software, the first
PC software to support the PCMCIA's new Zoomed Video
specification, will be bundled with Toshiba's upcoming 120
MHz Pentium-based Tecra notebook PCs, said Sue
Zaney, SystemSoft's marketing manager.//
(ii960327-008) (378 words)
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()
Racal expands ISDN range for European push
//Racal-Datacom, which claims to hold a top-five position
in the digital access equipment market, is enhancing its
range of ISDN interconnection and access security
products, to allow it to grab a greater share of, what it
claims is, the "expanding" European ISDN marketplace.//
(ii960327-009) (447 words)
Alcatel Data Networks gets first Global One sale
//Alcatel Data Networks has announced it has started
shipping its 1100 PSX switching system. The first
customer to take the advanced X.25 telecoms switch is
Global One, the newly created international joint venture
between Deutsche Telekom, France Telecom, and
Sprint.//
(ii960327-010) (279 words)
UK -- Low-cost Internet videoconferencing
//Cybertec has broken the UKP200 price barrier in the UK
with its mass market videoconferencing system. The V-
Com start package, which includes a monochrome
camera, hardware and software, costs just UKP199, yet
allows users to communicate over virtually any digital
carrier technology, including LANs modem links, ISDN
channels, and even Internet channels.//
(ii960327-011) (495 words)
Desktop device tells user if they have voice-mail
//Sometimes high-tech products get too fancy.
Consumerware claims telephone companies did just that
when they created voice-mail and left out the blinking light
found on nearly every answering machine.//
(ii960327-012) (378 words)
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()
IBM aims Warp Server at Windows NT & NetWare
//With OS/2 Warp Server NOS and a supporting reseller
strategy, IBM is taking strong aim against both the less
"open" and inclusive Windows NT and the "file-and print-
oriented" Novell Netware, contended Jim Koerner,
manager of systems brand marketing for IBM's Personal
Software Products Division. The reseller strategy includes
a nationwide series of free seminars for resellers
belonging to IBM's BESTeam, he added.//
(ii960327-013) (532 words)
Sun unveils new versions of SunScreen and firewall
security products for Intranet business computing
//As part of its several Internet strategy announcements
yesterday, Sun Microsystems, Inc., announced
enhancements to SunScreen and Solstice Firewall-1
products.//
(ii960327-014) (518 words)
Sun comprehensive package of Intranet products &
services for business
//Sun Microsystems, Inc. yesterday introduced the
"industry's most comprehensive" set of hardware, software
and support tools and services designed to help
businesses develop, deploy and manage corporate
Intranets to compete in today's increasingly networked
global economy. "We're staking our claim on the business
side of the Internet explosion," said Scott McNealy,
chairman, president and CEO of Sun. "The action is in
corporate Intranets, where you will see the real boom in
business-to-business and business-to-consumer networked
commerce."//
(ii960327-015) (1,217 words)
Sun announces Joe, a product that connects Java to
business applications
//As part of its several Internet strategy announcements
yesterday, Sun Microsystems, Inc. introduced Joe(TM), a
powerful new product written in Java(TM) that enables
corporations to extend their sophisticated business
applications onto their private Intranets and the public
Internet. Joe connects Java applets running on any Java-
enabled browser to business applications running on
industrial strength corporate networks, according to the
company. The beta version of Joe will be made available
to selected beta sites in the next thirty days. A beta
version will be made generally available for download
from Sun's homepage in June.//
(ii960327-016) (580 words)
Sun extends Netra Web server family with powerful new
platforms, Web software and security
//As part of its several Internet strategy announcements
yesterday, Sun Microsystems, Inc., introduced products
and services that help simplify the complex task of
deploying Internet technologies within the enterprise, on
private corporate Intranets.//
(ii960327-017) (883 words)
DomainMeter 7000 for LAN Monitoring, "Web reporting"
//Technically Elite's newly unveiled DomainMeter 7000
differs from other products in the booming RMON market
through capabilities that include a distributed domain-
based architecture supporting up to 5,000 users, "World
Wide Web-based reporting," and a customizable expert
system, according to company executives.//
(ii960327-018) (797 words)
UK -- Security Dynamics offers remote access technology
//Security Dynamics Technologies has teamed up with
Livingston Enterprises to link its SecurID and Ace/Server
systems together with Livingston's PortMaster Comms
Server.//
(ii960327-019) (422 words)
Bosch's CTI software for Windows
//Bosch, a German IT vendor, has taken the wraps off
PlusPhone, its Advanced Windows applications software.//
(ii960327-020) (437 words)
Internet software update
//This is today's roundup of new and updated software
packages available on the global network, including:
NCSA Mosaic; OUI off-line navigator; Remotely
Possible/32 Lite; Netfo; Beach Rat; N Plex Web server;
better business applications; HTTP Tool.//
(ii960327-021) (700 words)
Gates -- Internet browsers belong in operating system
//Microsoft Chairman William Gates, speaking at the first
annual Internet & Electronic Commerce Conference &
Exposition at New York City's Jacob K. Javits Convention
Center, said that he foresees the "Internet Browser'
becoming an integral part of the operating system of the
computer.//
(ii960327-022) (395 words)
IBM offers free "Cryptolopes," Internet servers on Web
//If you have never seen a "cryptolope," you will get a
chance during a 15-day "Cryptolope Countdown" in April,
when IBM will offer free cryptolope downloads from its
Web home page, said IBM's Julia Binder. Also from the
IBM Web site, free downloads of the IBM Internet
Connection Server for AIX and OS/2 Warp are available
now, and free downloads of a new Windows NT version
will become available this Friday.//
(ii960327-023) (796 words)
Firm claims simultaneous image/voice on Web
//On Demand Information(ODI) claims it has developed
the world's first simultaneous voice and image comms
software/hardware package for the Web. The idea,
according to Chris Solbe, a spokesperson for the
company, is that the Web becomes a virtual switching
point for voice and data calls, using the Internet as the
common carrier.//
(ii960327-024) (599 words)
Database World -- Products to include Web capabilities
//Vendors will debut dozens of new products at DCI's
Database/Client-Server World in Boston this week,
including several notable offerings with Web capabilities.//
(ii960327-025) (311 words)
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NETWORKING & COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES,
BUSINESS ()
India makes successful satellite launch
//India has reached out for a slice of the multi-billion dollar
global satellite market with the successful blasting off of
the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV) from the
Sriharikota range, near Madras.//
(ii960327-026) (278 words)
Consumers want cellular phones -- study
//You may not have a wireless telephone yet, but
according to a recent survey you probably want one.
According to a study by Peter D. Hart Research
Associates released at this week's Cellular
Telecommunications Industry Association (CTIA)
"Wireless '96" convention and exposition, wireless, also
known as cellular, phones have become so important in
the daily lives of Americans that 64 percent of the people
who don't already have one say they are likely to buy a
wireless phone soon or someday.//
(ii960327-027) (554 words)
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ONLINE BUSINESS ()
MCI launches Web hosting, content services
//MCI said it will offer an Internet World Wide Web hosting
and content creation service for businesses that do not
want to make an investment in, and upgrades and
maintenance to, Web servers. Called "MCI WebSite
Services," the program is a part of the company's plan to
increase its Internet offerings.//
(ii960327-028) (414 words)
UK -- Financial Times' FTVision Web site
//Financial Times Television, a division of Pearson TV and
the broadcasting arm of the Financial Times newspaper,
has unveiled FTVision, a complimentary Web site
(http://www/ftvision.com/).//
(ii960327-029) (368 words)
Web Marketplace 96 to examine Web commerce
//The present and the future of commerce on the Internet's
World Wide Web will be the hot topic at "Web
Marketplace '96," being held in Chicago April 9-11 by
Jupiter Communications.//
(ii960327-030) (375 words)
Australia -- Company use of the Internet
//Businesses are only just beginning to see the possible
uses of the Internet and intranets, Forrester Research
executive John McCarthy told the Com Tech Open
Systems 6 Forum in Coolum, Queensland, Australia.//
(ii960327-031) (250 words)
Internet update
//This is today's roundup of new and updated resources
and services available via the global Internet: in the news -
National Education Summit; trial the electronic library;
Canadian info guide; Internet news online; BBS and ISP
directory; nothing but icons; Internet PC magazine; in the
news - Comet Hyakutake; in the news - new US currency
issued; Olympic factbook debuts; analyze the market with
Java.//
(ii960327-032) (908 words)
GE to launch Web-based service for small business
//GE Information Services, a unit of General Electric Co.
has announced a service on the World Wide Web
designed for small businesses and home offices.//
(ii960327-033) (289 words)
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GENERAL & MISCELLANEOUS ()
Web entrepreneurs series: the project oriented society --
Interview with John Sumser, founder of the Internet
Business Network, publisher of "1996 Electronic Recruiting
Index"
(ii960327-034) (3,518 words)
Survey -- Executives uncertain on technology
//Deloitte & Touche Consulting Group, in two studies, are
making the claim that companies are investing heavily in
information technology to transform themselves into
"global powerhouses," yet many are failing to perceive the
value of these investments. The surveys were released in
conjunction with the Consulting Group's sponsorship of the
1996 Harvard Business School Global Alumni Conference,
"The Information Revolution: Bridging the Gap."//
(ii960327-035) (671 words)
Conference to address "year 2000 computer problem"
//Credit and cash cards turning up as expired, insurance
companies not being able to write policies, and long-
distance phone calls being made on the last day of 1999
showing up as year-long talkfests -- all of these scenarios
are possible because much of today's technology can't
adjust to the year 2000, computer experts say. To address
the problem, the "Year 2000 Conference and Exposition"
will be held April 3-4 in Chicago.//
(ii960327-036) (503 words)
Information systems teams not working -- report
//It seems teamwork is not all it's cracked up to be.
Forrester Research Inc. reports that many teams set up in
IT organizations are dysfunctional because they are poorly
managed or never should have existed in the first place.//
(ii960327-037) (510 words)
IBM UK's electronic education technology for engineers
//IBM has unveiled a PC multimedia- based learning
package that it claims will allow computer service
managers to achieve an industry-wide National Vocational
Qualification(NVQ) using interactive technology.//
(ii960327-038) (768 words)
Report lists healthcare telecom opportunities
//The US healthcare industry's computer and telecom
back-office operations remain outdated and costly, says a
new report from Insight Research. Unlike many other
industries, the health care industry has not been focused
on using technology to control costs and increase
efficiency until very recently.//
(ii960327-039) (493 words)
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 09:08:32 DST
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: "Ing.Sarkoezy Dionyz"
Subject: ZyXEL
X-cc: sanet-l@ccsun.tuke.sk,
"Dr.Ing.Zgebura Stefan"
Vazeni kolegovia.
Poradi mi niekto,kto sa zaobera medemami nejaky dobry software
pod DOS alebo Windows pre modemy ZyXEL, ktory je schopny vyuzit
vsetky moznosti fax-modemov?
Pouzivam telix, ktorym sa zial neda faxovat. Software dodany
pre modem ZyXEL ma tak isto urcite nedostatky.
Pocul som, ze Software602 ma nejaky program pre modemy. Rad by
som sa o nom dozvedel nieco od uzivatelov.
Dakujem Dionyz Sarkoezy
sarkoezy@vuepp.sanet.sk
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 09:34:36 +0200
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: Petr Snajdr
Subject: Re: ZyXEL
In-Reply-To:
On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, Ing.Sarkoezy Dionyz wrote:
> Vazeni kolegovia.
>
> Poradi mi niekto,kto sa zaobera medemami nejaky dobry software
> pod DOS alebo Windows pre modemy ZyXEL, ktory je schopny vyuzit
> vsetky moznosti fax-modemov?
> Pouzivam telix, ktorym sa zial neda faxovat. Software dodany
> pre modem ZyXEL ma tak isto urcite nedostatky.
jake ???
> Pocul som, ze Software602 ma nejaky program pre modemy. Rad by
> som sa o nom dozvedel nieco od uzivatelov.
Sam se snazim rozbehnout FAX/VOICE/DATA se ZyXELem pod Linuxem.
Dela jste to uz nekdo ????
S pozdravem\
petr Snajdr
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 08:25:57 +0200
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
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From: Miroslav Lycka
Subject: Re: ITNS/INT [Tuesday 12. 3. 1996 (ii960312)]
X-To: ITNS administraor
X-cc: CR & SR ,
ibm-pc@salome.zcu.cz, ina@fee.vutbr.cz, linux@infnw.upol.cz
* ITNS/INT
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*
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* Story count: 39
*
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* This issue is brought to you with support from paying
* subscribers (on a non-mandatory paid subscription basis)
* and the following advertisers:
* ...
Vazeni,
jen behem vcerejsiho odpoledne jsem dostal skoro 500 kB vasich reklam
jako abonent konferenci, kam tohle posilam jako Cc: i jako neabonent
ITNS.new... (tez v Cc:). Snazim se ted ovladnout, sec muzu, ale:
strcte si to za klobouk!!!! Doufam, ze spravci uvedenych konferenci
najdou prostredek, jak tyhle reklamy vyloucit z sireni. Drzim jim
palce.
Miroslav Lycka.
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 09:57:30 +0100
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: Petr Matousek
Subject: Re: ZyXEL
In-Reply-To: <199604020708.AA08578@cd4375.vuepp.sanet.sk>
On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, Ing.Sarkoezy Dionyz wrote:
> Poradi mi niekto,kto sa zaobera medemami nejaky dobry software
> pod DOS alebo Windows pre modemy ZyXEL, ktory je schopny vyuzit
> vsetky moznosti fax-modemov?
Nevim, cemu rikate vsechny moznosti faxmodemu, ale na faxovani se mi velmi
osvedcuje Delrina WinFAX LITE jak pod Windows 3.1x, tak 95.
Je to shareware.
Zdravi
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+ Petr Matousek e-mail: matousek@chv.pvt.cz +
+ PVT a.s. phone : +42-396-326245 +
+ Skolni 5335, 430 01 Chomutov, CZ fax : +42-396-27051 +
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:10:04 DST
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: "Ing.Sarkoezy Dionyz"
Subject: ziadnu reklamu!
In-Reply-To: <199604020625.AA14474@indigo.isibrno.cz> from "Miroslav Lycka" at
"Apr 2, 96 8:25 am"
>
> * ITNS/INT
> * ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> * Published in Prague by IntelliTech
> * Year 2, Number 22, Tuesday 12. 3. 1996 (ii960312)
> * ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> *
> * EXECUTIVE OVERVIEW
> * Story count: 39
> *
> * ************
> * This issue is brought to you with support from paying
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>
> Vazeni,
>
> jen behem vcerejsiho odpoledne jsem dostal skoro 500 kB vasich reklam
> jako abonent konferenci, kam tohle posilam jako Cc: i jako neabonent
> ITNS.new... (tez v Cc:). Snazim se ted ovladnout, sec muzu, ale:
> strcte si to za klobouk!!!! Doufam, ze spravci uvedenych konferenci
> najdou prostredek, jak tyhle reklamy vyloucit z sireni. Drzim jim
> palce.
>
> Miroslav Lycka.
>
Pripojujem sa k protestu.
Strcte si to do ..............
Dionyz Sarkoezy
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 16:37:58 +0100
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: Daniel Smutek
Subject: Re: ZyXEL
Ing.Sarkoezy Dionyz wrote:
> Poradi mi niekto,kto sa zaobera medemami nejaky dobry software
> pod DOS alebo Windows pre modemy ZyXEL, ktory je schopny vyuzit
> vsetky moznosti fax-modemov?
> Pouzivam telix, ktorym sa zial neda faxovat. Software dodany
> pre modem ZyXEL ma tak isto urcite nedostatky.
Ja pouzivam ZFAX 3.24 k naproste spokojenosti jako MODEM/FAX/VOICE. A to jak
pod Dosem, tak pod W95 (zde pouze bezici na popredi).
K faxovani z Win mi idealni pripada WinFax.
bye, Daniel Smutek
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 16:44:47 +0200
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: Petr Snajdr
Subject: Re: ZyXEL
In-Reply-To:
On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, Petr Matousek wrote:
>
> Nevim, cemu rikate vsechny moznosti faxmodemu, ale na faxovani se mi velmi
> osvedcuje Delrina WinFAX LITE jak pod Windows 3.1x, tak 95.
> Je to shareware.
>
FAX/VOICE/DATA ?
zaznam,prenos,..atd..?
S pozdravem
Petr Snajdr
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 08:51:35 +0200
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
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From: Vladimir Rengevic
Subject: Re: ITNS/INT [Friday 22. 3. 1996 (ii960322) *** ParTOS AS
NEROVBI!!!
In-Reply-To: <199604011148.NAA12908@prg.traveller.cz> from "ITNS administraor"
at Apr 1, 96 01:31:36 pm
>
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>
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>
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>
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> COMPUTERS/SYSTEMS ()
>
> SGI responds to growing Intranet trend
> //In response to a growing trend of large corporations using
> the Web for internal use, Silicon Graphics has announced
> a new strategy combining hardware and software for
> enterprise clients. Called WebForce Intranet, the turn-key
> product highlights Netscape's recently announced
> SuiteSpot server software, single and multiple processor
> SGI servers and SGI workstations.//
> (ii960322-001) (433 words)
>
> CeBIT -- Multi-Pentium desktops on show at CeBIT
> //Confirming prototype systems shown at the Comdex Fall
> computer show in the US last November, IBM, Digital
> Equipment, and Hewlett-Packard were busy showing off
> multi- processor Pentium systems at this year's CeBIT
> Computer Faire in Germany.//
> (ii960322-002) (428 words)
>
> DEC introduces midrange AlphaStation workstations
> //The new AlphaStation 255 is targeted at the "low
> midrange," whereas the AlphaStation 500 is geared to the
> "high midrange" market.//
> (ii960322-003) (491 words)
>
> IBM crowing over System/390 server strategy
> //Mainframes aren't dying, they're just turning into big
> servers. Claiming to have shipped more mainframe
> processing power in 1995 than in any previous year, IBM
> is patting itself on the back over the success of its large
> server technology strategy.//
> (ii960322-004) (758 words)
>
> Fujitsu's ICL losses, new European PC company
> //Fujitsu and ICL, its UK computing operation, have
> announced the creation of Fujitsu Personal Systems
> Business Group, a European company that will handle
> both companies' PC sales operations in Europe.
> Meanwhile, Fujitsu has lowered its income forecast by
> 28% after ICL posted losses of US$297 million loss and
> said it was reorganizing.//
> (ii960322-005) (438 words)
>
> Home PC market growth slows through 1990s -- Dataquest
> //According to Dataquest's latest study, the home PC
> market, which witnessed 42% growth in 1994, will taper to
> 7.6% in 1996, and continue to slow through 1999. The
> number of homes with PCs will grow by 4% this year over
> a 29% figure in 1995.//
> (ii960322-006) (326 words)
>
> DEC launches new HiNote Notebook Line
> //Digital Equipment Corp. has done over its HiNote line of
> notebook computers. The new HiNote lineup is entirely
> based on Intel's Pentium processors.//
> (ii960322-007) (363 words)
>
> CeBIT -- IBM unveils ThinkPad 465E series
> //IBM has taken the wraps off a budget range of
> ThinkPads. According to officials with Big Blue, the new
> ThinkPads offer the company's trademark style, innovation
> and reliability at the most affordable prices ever. The
> ThinkPad 365E series starts at just UKP 1670 ($2,500),
> with CD-ROM versions starting from around UKP 210
> ($370) extra.//
> (ii960322-008) (373 words)
>
> CeBIT -- Apple introduces new MessagePad 130
> //Apple Computer introduced the MessagePad 130 with
> Newton 2.0 as its operating system at Germany's CeBit
> computer show. The new model represents a high-end,
> feature-rich version of MessagePad 120 and is not
> intended as a replacement.//
> (ii960322-009) (366 words)
>
> Sharp teams up with Alcatel for mobile multimedia
> //Japan's Sharp and Alcatel of France have announced an
> agreement to work together on mobile telecommunications
> and multimedia applications and products. The two
> companies will initially work to produce a next- generation
> personal communicator.//
> (ii960322-010) (417 words)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY: CHIPS, COMPONENTS,
> PERIPHERALS ()
>
> DEC Storage Products to adopt fiber channel
> //Digital Equipment Corp. will now join the growing ranks
> of vendors that are starting to support fiber channel in their
> storage products. The products, to be provided "in parallel"
> with ultra SCSI, will start shipping to OEMs late this year,
> with systems to become commercially available in early
> 1997.//
> (ii960322-011) (706 words)
>
> DEC unveils PowerStorm 2-D, 3-D, & "4-D" graphics
> //Digital Equipment Corp.'s newly announced series of
> PowerStorm graphics options for Alpha workstations
> brings together 2-D and 3-D graphics capabilities, together
> with 4-D features that "add motion," into one "branded
> family," according to Digital's Keith LeFebre.//
> (ii960322-012) (436 words)
>
> Texas Instruments chip doubles answering recording time
> //Texas Instruments says it has introduced a new family of
> microprocessors for use in digital telephone answering
> devices (TADs) that double the message recording time,
> and adds several new features.//
> (ii960322-013) (387 words)
>
> Virtual Reality comes to TV
> //Virtual I-O has introduced new versions of its virtual
> reality headsets for television watchers, video gamers, and
> PC users.//
> (ii960322-014) (474 words)
>
> CeBIT -- Boxlight's personal PC projector
> //Boxlight Corporation, the Poulsbo, Washington-based
> company is previewing, what it claims is, a "revolutionary"
> personal projector at the CeBIT Computer Faire, which
> runs over the next week in Hannover, Germany.//
> (ii960322-015) (452 words)
>
> External hard drive add-0n for PC
> //Adaptec has announced a new hard drive with an
> external connection, and a SCSI host adapter for the PC.
> The new Power Storage Hard Drive Kit has a 1 GB
> external hard drive, and a kit that requires less than 30
> minutes installation time, according to the company.//
> (ii960322-016) (518 words)
>
> Exabyte introduces large-capacity tape drive
> //The Eagle Division of Exabyte has introduced its first
> product, a large-capacity, high-performance tape backup
> system. The TR-3 system is based on the TraVan
> technology and is compatible with a number of different
> minicartridges and QIC industry standards.//
> (ii960322-017) (366 words)
>
> Sony introduces digital camera
> //Sony Electronics has announced its entry into the digital
> still camera market with the DKC-ID1 which stores images
> at a resolution of 768 by 576 pixels.//
> (ii960322-018) (447 words)
>
> Review -- NEC PC-DC401 digital still camera
> //Review of NEC's PC-DC401 digital still camera featuring
> a CCD pickup and the ability to store images on a memory
> card for instant viewing on a PC.//
> (ii960322-019) (900 words)
>
> Apple colors input and output with new devices
> //Apple Computer says its new Color OneScanner 600/27
> is designed to meet a new world of users in schools, small
> offices and homes. Expanding on its color for everyone
> marketing plan, the company also announced two new
> color inkjet printers, Color StyleWriter 1500 and Color
> StyleWriter 2500.//
> (ii960322-020) (472 words)
>
> Taiwan's Umax forms new US subsidiary
> //Umax Data Systems Inc. (UDS), has announced the
> formation of a new US subsidiary, called NewSoft Inc. The
> new company will develop, market, and distribute software
> applications, with initial focus on scanning and image
> processing, multimedia, communications, and Internet-
> related technologies.//
> (ii960322-021) (565 words)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> SOFTWARE, APPLICATIONS DEVELOPMENT
> ()
>
> Bankers hear Microsoft's Money strategy
> //Two hundred bankers and banking application software
> developers convened at Microsoft headquarters earlier this
> week to hear the software company's strategy for Money,
> its personal finance software.//
> (ii960322-022) (470 words)
>
> Java much more than a "lightweight browser"
> //"Java is not just a lightweight browser," contends Sun
> Microsystems' John De Armon. To the contrary, Java is
> now being tested by the R.R. Donnelley & Sons printing
> company and a number of other large users for
> "enterprise-class" Intranet and Internet applications that
> will "change the way business is done," according to De
> Armon.//
> (ii960322-023) (803 words)
>
> Avid introduces MCXpress for "media entrepreneurs"
> //Avid's newly announced MCXpress is aimed at a new
> class of users, known as "media entrepreneurs," who have
> learned to perform professional video editing on the Mac
> or Windows platforms, and who have now "gone off on
> their own" to produce video for the Web, CD-ROM,
> broadcasting, and other media.//
> (ii960322-024) (686 words)
>
> Digital, SAP unveil 1st R/3 for Windows NT on RISC
> //A newly unveiled deal to port SAP's R/3 to Digital
> Equipment Corp.'s AlphaServer running Windows NT,
> billed as bringing the first Windows NT implementation of
> R/3 for RISC, is targeted at the high end of the Windows
> NT market.//
> (ii960322-025) (545 words)
>
> 10,000 "screened" shareware titles from ZD-Net on Web
> //Ziff- Davis Interactive (ZDI) has announced a new
> searchable library on the Web contains 10,000 carefully
> selected shareware titles.//
> (ii960322-026) (499 words)
>
> Java news and applets
> //Java-related news from online news services
> (http://blueridge.infomkt.ibm.com/knudsen/javanews.html),
> applets and programs (http://www.new-home.com/jr/),
> Java Counter -- a page access counter that uses an
> animated odometer-like display
> (http://www.chamisplace.com/dev/java/counter.html).//
> (ii960322-027) (139 words)
>
> Java-Based Web paging service, market report
> //Betting on Java's advancement as a Web technology,
> the company BulletProof.com says it is introducing two
> products based on Sun Microsystems' Java. One is a
> wireless alphanumeric and e-mail paging interface, while
> the other is a stock tracker.//
> (ii960322-028) (359 words)
>
> Apple upgrades system 7.5 OS to 2.0
> //Apple Computer has announced the availability of
> System 7.5 update 2.0 at no cost. Designed to deliver
> increased system performance, better network
> communications, and a "richer multimedia experience,"
> Update 2.0 also includes Open Transport 1.1.//
> (ii960322-029) (200 words)
>
> Correction -- 3M unveils Post-It Notes in software format
> (ii960322-030) (160 words)
>
> SPA puts pressure on software pirates
> //The SPA is getting fewer reports of piracy at large
> organizations, a fact which he said indicates that larger
> outfits at least have got the message about piracy. Now
> the SPA is putting more emphasis on nabbing smaller
> pirates. Those who previously thought they were small
> enough that they wouldn't be pursued are beginning to
> learn that they can no longer get away with piracy.//
> (ii960322-031) (414 words)
>
> Bentley to combine GIS & CAD for "geoengineering"
> //Bentley Systems' upcoming MicroStation GeoGraphics
> software, set to ship at the end of this month, will combine
> capabilities from CAD and the fast growing arena of GIS
> for the emerging market of "geoengineering".//
> (ii960322-032) (718 words)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> NETWORKING & COMMUNICATIONS HARDWARE
> ()
>
> CeBIT -- Nokia unveils Communicator 9000
> //Nokia Mobile Phones of Finland managed to scoop its
> rivals with the launch of not one, but four different mobile
> phone products. Company President Pekka Ala-Pieti La
> explained that the company was launching the full range
> at CeBIT '96 to alert networks, distributors and customers
> that Nokia would be offering the "future shock" products
> this year, not at some distant date in the future.//
> (ii960322-033) (467 words)
>
> CeBIT -- Next-generation cellphones unveiled
> //While Nokia's 80386-based Communicator 9000
> cellphone drew a lot of attention at the CeBIT Computer
> Faire in Germany earlier this week, Ericsson was quietly
> talking about -- and showing -- the next generation of
> cellphones.//
> (ii960322-034) (416 words)
>
> VLSI & Dialogic chip quadruples switching capacity
> //VLSI Technology has announced it will market a new
> timeslot interchange IC, called the SC4000. The chip was
> designed in cooperation with Dialogic.//
> (ii960322-035) (465 words)
>
> CeBIT -- Zoom Telephonics' CTI
> //Zoom Telephonics is a name normally associated with
> asynchronous modems, so it comes as something of a
> surprise to discover that the company launched its first
> CTI (computer telephony integration) unit, the ComStar
> speakerphone faxmodem PC card, at the Cebit Computer
> Faire.//
> (ii960322-036) (400 words)
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> ITNS/INT
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Published in Prague by IntelliTech
> Year 2, Number 24, Wednesday 27. 3. 1996 (ii960327)
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> EXECUTIVE OVERVIEW
> Story count: 39
>
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> COMPUTERS/SYSTEMS ()
>
> Fujitsu claims fastest tablet PC
> //Fujitsu Personal Systems Inc. has introduced the Stylistic
> 1000, which the company claims is the world's most
> powerful color tablet PC. Fujitsu says the the new color
> tablet PC, powered by a 100 MHz 486 microprocessor, is
> the fastest available on the market today.//
> (ii960327-001) (527 words)
>
> A banking ATM in your home?
> //Tom Dittrich wants to install an automatic teller machine
> (ATM) in your home. However, the ATM would not be one
> of those refrigerator-sized machines found at most banks,
> but a software package that provides ATM-like services
> from your PC.//
> (ii960327-002) (645 words)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY: CHIPS, COMPONENTS,
> PERIPHERALS ()
>
> AMD ready to ship K5 processor?
> //Unconfirmed media reports say Advanced Micro Devices
> is ready to ship its K5 microprocessor to OEMs.
> Developed to compete with Intel's Pentium chips, AMD's
> K5, renamed 5K86, will supposedly ship as low-priced 75
> and 90 MHz models, while the company secretly focuses
> on a P7 chip.//
> (ii960327-003) (521 words)
>
> UK -- Chip theft gang caught
> //British Police have announced they have smashed a
> computer chip theft gang, following the arrest of five men
> in an aborted burglary carried out earlier this month on a
> Southampton high street bank.//
> (ii960327-004) (431 words)
>
> National Semi super I/Os with fast IR
> //National Semiconductor announced two new Super I/Os
> with integrated 4Mbpsfast infrared (Fast IR) technology.
> National's new Fast IR products will provide PC designers
> with high-speed wireless data transfer with any IrDA
> (Infrared Data Association) compliant device.//
> (ii960327-005) (526 words)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> SOFTWARE, APPLICATIONS DEVELOPMENT
> ()
>
> New Fulcrum software builds on text-search engine
> //Fulcrum Technologies is building on its SearchServer
> text-retrieval software with two new software products, one
> of which is the company's first shrink-wrapped package.
> The company also updated Surfboard, its search software
> for Internet and Intranet servers.//
> (ii960327-006) (565 words)
>
> North American PC applications sales hit $7.53 Bil in 1995
> //Windows are up, while DOS and Macs are down, as PC
> application software sales in the US and Canada reached
> $7.53 billion in 1995, a 12% increase from a revised $6.7
> billion in 1994, according to the SPA.//
> (ii960327-007) (538 words)
>
> SystemSoft ships Zoomed video software, Toshiba deal
> //SystemSoft's newly shipping PC Card software, the first
> PC software to support the PCMCIA's new Zoomed Video
> specification, will be bundled with Toshiba's upcoming 120
> MHz Pentium-based Tecra notebook PCs, said Sue
> Zaney, SystemSoft's marketing manager.//
> (ii960327-008) (378 words)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> NETWORKING & COMMUNICATIONS HARDWARE
> ()
>
> Racal expands ISDN range for European push
> //Racal-Datacom, which claims to hold a top-five position
> in the digital access equipment market, is enhancing its
> range of ISDN interconnection and access security
> products, to allow it to grab a greater share of, what it
> claims is, the "expanding" European ISDN marketplace.//
> (ii960327-009) (447 words)
>
> Alcatel Data Networks gets first Global One sale
> //Alcatel Data Networks has announced it has started
> shipping its 1100 PSX switching system. The first
> customer to take the advanced X.25 telecoms switch is
> Global One, the newly created international joint venture
> between Deutsche Telekom, France Telecom, and
> Sprint.//
> (ii960327-010) (279 words)
>
> UK -- Low-cost Internet videoconferencing
> //Cybertec has broken the UKP200 price barrier in the UK
> with its mass market videoconferencing system. The V-
> Com start package, which includes a monochrome
> camera, hardware and software, costs just UKP199, yet
> allows users to communicate over virtually any digital
> carrier technology, including LANs modem links, ISDN
> channels, and even Internet channels.//
> (ii960327-011) (495 words)
>
> Desktop device tells user if they have voice-mail
> //Sometimes high-tech products get too fancy.
> Consumerware claims telephone companies did just that
> when they created voice-mail and left out the blinking light
> found on nearly every answering machine.//
> (ii960327-012) (378 words)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> NETWORKING & COMMUNICATIONS SOFTWARE
> ()
>
> IBM aims Warp Server at Windows NT & NetWare
> //With OS/2 Warp Server NOS and a supporting reseller
> strategy, IBM is taking strong aim against both the less
> "open" and inclusive Windows NT and the "file-and print-
> oriented" Novell Netware, contended Jim Koerner,
> manager of systems brand marketing for IBM's Personal
> Software Products Division. The reseller strategy includes
> a nationwide series of free seminars for resellers
> belonging to IBM's BESTeam, he added.//
> (ii960327-013) (532 words)
>
> Sun unveils new versions of SunScreen and firewall
> security products for Intranet business computing
> //As part of its several Internet strategy announcements
> yesterday, Sun Microsystems, Inc., announced
> enhancements to SunScreen and Solstice Firewall-1
> products.//
> (ii960327-014) (518 words)
>
> Sun comprehensive package of Intranet products &
> services for business
> //Sun Microsystems, Inc. yesterday introduced the
> "industry's most comprehensive" set of hardware, software
> and support tools and services designed to help
> businesses develop, deploy and manage corporate
> Intranets to compete in today's increasingly networked
> global economy. "We're staking our claim on the business
> side of the Internet explosion," said Scott McNealy,
> chairman, president and CEO of Sun. "The action is in
> corporate Intranets, where you will see the real boom in
> business-to-business and business-to-consumer networked
> commerce."//
> (ii960327-015) (1,217 words)
>
> Sun announces Joe, a product that connects Java to
> business applications
> //As part of its several Internet strategy announcements
> yesterday, Sun Microsystems, Inc. introduced Joe(TM), a
> powerful new product written in Java(TM) that enables
> corporations to extend their sophisticated business
> applications onto their private Intranets and the public
> Internet. Joe connects Java applets running on any Java-
> enabled browser to business applications running on
> industrial strength corporate networks, according to the
> company. The beta version of Joe will be made available
> to selected beta sites in the next thirty days. A beta
> version will be made generally available for download
> from Sun's homepage in June.//
> (ii960327-016) (580 words)
>
> Sun extends Netra Web server family with powerful new
> platforms, Web software and security
> //As part of its several Internet strategy announcements
> yesterday, Sun Microsystems, Inc., introduced products
> and services that help simplify the complex task of
> deploying Internet technologies within the enterprise, on
> private corporate Intranets.//
> (ii960327-017) (883 words)
>
> DomainMeter 7000 for LAN Monitoring, "Web reporting"
> //Technically Elite's newly unveiled DomainMeter 7000
> differs from other products in the booming RMON market
> through capabilities that include a distributed domain-
> based architecture supporting up to 5,000 users, "World
> Wide Web-based reporting," and a customizable expert
> system, according to company executives.//
> (ii960327-018) (797 words)
>
> UK -- Security Dynamics offers remote access technology
> //Security Dynamics Technologies has teamed up with
> Livingston Enterprises to link its SecurID and Ace/Server
> systems together with Livingston's PortMaster Comms
> Server.//
> (ii960327-019) (422 words)
>
> Bosch's CTI software for Windows
> //Bosch, a German IT vendor, has taken the wraps off
> PlusPhone, its Advanced Windows applications software.//
> (ii960327-020) (437 words)
>
> Internet software update
> //This is today's roundup of new and updated software
> packages available on the global network, including:
> NCSA Mosaic; OUI off-line navigator; Remotely
> Possible/32 Lite; Netfo; Beach Rat; N Plex Web server;
> better business applications; HTTP Tool.//
> (ii960327-021) (700 words)
>
> Gates -- Internet browsers belong in operating system
> //Microsoft Chairman William Gates, speaking at the first
> annual Internet & Electronic Commerce Conference &
> Exposition at New York City's Jacob K. Javits Convention
> Center, said that he foresees the "Internet Browser'
> becoming an integral part of the operating system of the
> computer.//
> (ii960327-022) (395 words)
>
> IBM offers free "Cryptolopes," Internet servers on Web
> //If you have never seen a "cryptolope," you will get a
> chance during a 15-day "Cryptolope Countdown" in April,
> when IBM will offer free cryptolope downloads from its
> Web home page, said IBM's Julia Binder. Also from the
> IBM Web site, free downloads of the IBM Internet
> Connection Server for AIX and OS/2 Warp are available
> now, and free downloads of a new Windows NT version
> will become available this Friday.//
> (ii960327-023) (796 words)
>
> Firm claims simultaneous image/voice on Web
> //On Demand Information(ODI) claims it has developed
> the world's first simultaneous voice and image comms
> software/hardware package for the Web. The idea,
> according to Chris Solbe, a spokesperson for the
> company, is that the Web becomes a virtual switching
> point for voice and data calls, using the Internet as the
> common carrier.//
> (ii960327-024) (599 words)
>
> Database World -- Products to include Web capabilities
> //Vendors will debut dozens of new products at DCI's
> Database/Client-Server World in Boston this week,
> including several notable offerings with Web capabilities.//
> (ii960327-025) (311 words)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> NETWORKING & COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES,
> BUSINESS ()
>
> India makes successful satellite launch
> //India has reached out for a slice of the multi-billion dollar
> global satellite market with the successful blasting off of
> the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV) from the
> Sriharikota range, near Madras.//
> (ii960327-026) (278 words)
>
> Consumers want cellular phones -- study
> //You may not have a wireless telephone yet, but
> according to a recent survey you probably want one.
> According to a study by Peter D. Hart Research
> Associates released at this week's Cellular
> Telecommunications Industry Association (CTIA)
> "Wireless '96" convention and exposition, wireless, also
> known as cellular, phones have become so important in
> the daily lives of Americans that 64 percent of the people
> who don't already have one say they are likely to buy a
> wireless phone soon or someday.//
> (ii960327-027) (554 words)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> ONLINE BUSINESS ()
>
> MCI launches Web hosting, content services
> //MCI said it will offer an Internet World Wide Web hosting
> and content creation service for businesses that do not
> want to make an investment in, and upgrades and
> maintenance to, Web servers. Called "MCI WebSite
> Services," the program is a part of the company's plan to
> increase its Internet offerings.//
> (ii960327-028) (414 words)
>
> UK -- Financial Times' FTVision Web site
> //Financial Times Television, a division of Pearson TV and
> the broadcasting arm of the Financial Times newspaper,
> has unveiled FTVision, a complimentary Web site
> (http://www/ftvision.com/).//
> (ii960327-029) (368 words)
>
> Web Marketplace 96 to examine Web commerce
> //The present and the future of commerce on the Internet's
> World Wide Web will be the hot topic at "Web
> Marketplace '96," being held in Chicago April 9-11 by
> Jupiter Communications.//
> (ii960327-030) (375 words)
>
> Australia -- Company use of the Internet
> //Businesses are only just beginning to see the possible
> uses of the Internet and intranets, Forrester Research
> executive John McCarthy told the Com Tech Open
> Systems 6 Forum in Coolum, Queensland, Australia.//
> (ii960327-031) (250 words)
>
> Internet update
> //This is today's roundup of new and updated resources
> and services available via the global Internet: in the news -
> National Education Summit; trial the electronic library;
> Canadian info guide; Internet news online; BBS and ISP
> directory; nothing but icons; Internet PC magazine; in the
> news - Comet Hyakutake; in the news - new US currency
> issued; Olympic factbook debuts; analyze the market with
> Java.//
> (ii960327-032) (908 words)
>
> GE to launch Web-based service for small business
> //GE Information Services, a unit of General Electric Co.
> has announced a service on the World Wide Web
> designed for small businesses and home offices.//
> (ii960327-033) (289 words)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> GENERAL & MISCELLANEOUS ()
>
> Web entrepreneurs series: the project oriented society --
> Interview with John Sumser, founder of the Internet
> Business Network, publisher of "1996 Electronic Recruiting
> Index"
> (ii960327-034) (3,518 words)
>
> Survey -- Executives uncertain on technology
> //Deloitte & Touche Consulting Group, in two studies, are
> making the claim that companies are investing heavily in
> information technology to transform themselves into
> "global powerhouses," yet many are failing to perceive the
> value of these investments. The surveys were released in
> conjunction with the Consulting Group's sponsorship of the
> 1996 Harvard Business School Global Alumni Conference,
> "The Information Revolution: Bridging the Gap."//
> (ii960327-035) (671 words)
>
> Conference to address "year 2000 computer problem"
> //Credit and cash cards turning up as expired, insurance
> companies not being able to write policies, and long-
> distance phone calls being made on the last day of 1999
> showing up as year-long talkfests -- all of these scenarios
> are possible because much of today's technology can't
> adjust to the year 2000, computer experts say. To address
> the problem, the "Year 2000 Conference and Exposition"
> will be held April 3-4 in Chicago.//
> (ii960327-036) (503 words)
>
> Information systems teams not working -- report
> //It seems teamwork is not all it's cracked up to be.
> Forrester Research Inc. reports that many teams set up in
> IT organizations are dysfunctional because they are poorly
> managed or never should have existed in the first place.//
> (ii960327-037) (510 words)
>
> IBM UK's electronic education technology for engineers
> //IBM has unveiled a PC multimedia- based learning
> package that it claims will allow computer service
> managers to achieve an industry-wide National Vocational
> Qualification(NVQ) using interactive technology.//
> (ii960327-038) (768 words)
>
> Report lists healthcare telecom opportunities
> //The US healthcare industry's computer and telecom
> back-office operations remain outdated and costly, says a
> new report from Insight Research. Unlike many other
> industries, the health care industry has not been focused
> on using technology to control costs and increase
> efficiency until very recently.//
> (ii960327-039) (493 words)
>
>
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> Year 2, Number 25, Friday 29. 3. 1996 (ii960329)
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>
> EXECUTIVE OVERVIEW
> Story count: 29
>
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> COMPUTERS/SYSTEMS ()
>
> UK -- Husky Computers' GSM data cards an internal
> option
> //Husky Computers, which claims to be the world's leading
> rugged computer system supplier, has announced it is
> offering a GSM data facility on its notebook PCs.//
> (ii960329-001) (324 words)
>
> Canon adds 6X-drive, 133Mhz chip to notebooks
> //Canon Computer Systems has announced four new
> multimedia-centered notebooks under its Innova Book line
> of portable PCs.//
> (ii960329-002) (449 words)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY: CHIPS, COMPONENTS,
> PERIPHERALS ()
>
> Microtek mid-range scanner for $599
> //Microtek Lab Inc., is unveiling a new 30-bit scanner that
> offers high resolution at a "mid-range price." The new
> ScanMaker E6 joins the ScanMaker E3, a single-pass 24-
> bit scanner released earlier this year, as the newest
> members of the Microtek ScanMaker scanners.//
> (ii960329-003) (565 words)
>
> Diamond Multimedia bundles Microsoft's Web browser
> //The battle of the Internet browsers continues as Diamond
> Multimedia and Microsoft agreed to bundle Microsoft's
> Internet Explorer 2.0 with selected Diamond multimedia
> accelerators, modems, and ISDN products. Facing
> Netscape's more than 80% share of the browser market,
> Microsoft is on a campaign to capture a larger percentage
> of the Internet browser market as part of its Internet
> strategy.//
> (ii960329-004) (407 words)
>
> Check fraud and what steps can be taken to protect your
> institutions against it - Printech
> //The advent and availability of electronic publishing,
> advanced scanning and color copiers available in the
> market today are providing enormous alteration and
> duplication capabilities for fraud artists so it has become
> imperative for companies to be aware of the techniques
> available to protect themselves against check fraud.//
> (ii960329-005) (796 words)
>
> Adaptec introduces PCI-to-UltraSCSI single-chip solution
> //Adaptec has introduced its first PCI-to-8-bit UltraSCSI
> controller chip targeted at low-end servers, desktops,
> docking stations and laptops.//
> (ii960329-006) (383 words) (PR)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> SOFTWARE, APPLICATIONS DEVELOPMENT
> ()
>
> More than 60 new products to be unveiled at DB/EXPO '96
> in San Francisco
> //The world's leading database, client/server, data
> warehouse and internet conference and exposition
> promises to be even bigger this year with the introduction
> of more than 60 new products and services from a wide
> range of high profile vendors. DB/EXPO '96, which will be
> held at San Francisco's Moscone Center on April 16-18.
> Internet and Intranet conference debuts at DB/EXPO "96
> with special exposition attractions -- Web Center and
> Internet Village.//
> (ii960329-007) (4,278 words) (PR)
>
> Database World -- Sybase IQ, Web.sql for "quick" queries
> //In a press and customers' event at Database &
> Client/Server World in Boston, Sybase unveiled Sybase
> IQ, a layer of middleware aimed at dramatically cutting the
> time it takes to query and analyze complex data. Officials
> also demo'd the use of Sybase IQ with Sybase Web.sql, a
> Web server-based software product, now in beta, for
> accessing either Sybase IQ or Sybase SQL Server over
> an Internet or the Internet.//
> (ii960329-008) (1,045 words)
>
> DB World -- APT introduces Orchestrate for parallel
> RDBMS
> //Two or three years from now, "data mining" applications
> based on parallel databases and neural networking will be
> commonplace, but development tools must first become
> easier to use, maintained Applied Parallel Technologies'
> (APT) Robert Utzschneider, in a meeting about the
> company's newly unveiled Orchestrate in the IBM suite at
> Database & Client/Server World.//
> (ii960329-009) (470 words)
>
> Quarterdeck's CD-ROM accelerator
> //Quarterdeck says it is shipping a 32-bit turbocharger
> which improves CD-ROM performance and speed for
> Windows 95. Using a special caching technology,
> SpeedyROM is able to determine which data is most
> frequently accessed and readies that data for subsequent
> searches.//
> (ii960329-010) (200 words)
>
> SunSoft announces strategic relationship with ILOG to
> deliver component gateway between java and C++
> //SunSoft has announced a joint development project,
> TwinPeaks, with ILOG, Inc., a leading provider of high-
> performance and easy-to-use business application
> components, to build a component gateway between Java
> and C++ objects. The agreement will deliver the first Java
> to C++ business application component gateway to
> developers.//
> (ii960329-011) (591 words) (PR)
>
> SunSoft adopts GUI builder for Java from Active Software
> for SunSoft Java Workshop
> //SunSoft has announced a technology alliance with Active
> Software that provides software for distributed Internet and
> Intranet applications. As part of this agreement, Active
> Software's GUI builder for Java will be incorporated into
> SunSoft's Java WorkShop, an integrated Web-centric
> development tool for new media and client/server
> developers.//
> (ii960329-012) (439 words) (PR)
>
> SCO broadens customer service and support in North
> America with new Authorized Support Centers
> //SCO has announced the certification and signing of two
> new Authorized Support Centers (ASCs), Multi-User
> Solutions and Enterprise Support Services Inc. (ESS).//
> (ii960329-013) (652 words)
>
> Adaptec ships LAN Emulation software
> //Adaptec is now shipping LAN Emulation software that
> enables customers to deploy ATM clients and servers into
> their existing networks.//
> (ii960329-014) (518 words) (PR)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> NETWORKING & COMMUNICATIONS HARDWARE
> ()
>
> Gandalf launches strategic direction through innovative
> technologies
> //Gandalf Technologies has announced its statement of
> direction towards establishing market leadership in the
> teleworking and Internet service provider marketplaces.
> This strategic direction is being launched with the
> unveiling of new services, products and technology
> enhancements that address the specific needs of
> teleworkers and mobile users who require complete end-
> to-end solutions for accessing corporate resources and the
> Internet. The new additions include RemoteConnect,
> technology enhancements, encryption, expanded product
> family.//
> (ii960329-015) (1,951 words) (PR)
>
> HP & Stanford Telecom in wireless technology deal
> //Hewlett-Packard and Stanford Telecommunications have
> signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) to work
> together to develop local multipoint distribution service
> (LMDS) technology. LMDS is a digital wireless, two-way
> broadband technology designed to allow network
> integrators and communication service providers to
> inexpensively bring a range of high-value, quality services
> to homes and businesses.//
> (ii960329-016) (583 words)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> NETWORKING & COMMUNICATIONS SOFTWARE
> ()
>
> Novell & Quarterdeck team on NetWare IPX Web
> technology
> //Novell has teamed up with Quarterdeck to develop a
> package to allow NetWare users to access their internal
> Web servers via Novell's IPX protocol.//
> (ii960329-017) (439 words)
>
> M.I.S. Europe Ltd. launches its PC security products to
> help combat computer crime
> //M.I.S. Europe Limited announced on 27. 3. 96 the
> release of Windows versions of its FortressOE computer
> security products.//
> (ii960329-018) (451 words)
>
> Wall Data ships Rumba Office for Windows 95/NT
> //Wall Data is now shipping its Rumba Office 95/NT
> version 5.0.//
> (ii960329-019) (398 words)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> NETWORKING & COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES,
> BUSINESS ()
>
> Netcom to "redefine" Internet service provider role
> //National Internet provider Netcom On-Line
> Communications says it will redefine the definition of an
> Internet service provider (ISP) with the introduction of
> Personal Services. Starting with a customized, daily news
> service, called PersonalNews, Netcom's Personal
> Services will be developed over the coming months as a
> value-added service to an existing $19.95 per month
> unlimited usage service.//
> (ii960329-020) (417 words)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> ONLINE BUSINESS ()
>
> The robot exclusion standard - how to keep robots
> (crawlers, spiders, worms, etc.) from accessing your Web
> site
> //A robot exclusion standard has been proposed to assist
> you in keeping robots (crawlers, spiders, worms, etc.) from
> accessing your Web site. Most robots are respecting the
> proposed standard which can prevent access by
> EVERYONE in the networked world to ALL of your Web
> documents - which may in some cases by highly
> UNDESIREABLE.//
> (ii960401-021) (1,815 words)
>
> America Online's private networks to rival Lotus Notes?
> //America Online Inc. is getting serious about the business
> of creating internal networks for businesses. The online
> service company has set up a new division called America
> Online Enterprise to provide packages of Internet access,
> electronic-mail, and other services on private business
> networks.//
> (ii960329-022) (382 words)
>
> Internet update
> //This is today's roundup of new and updated resources
> and services available via the global Internet, including:
> international telecommunications information; Modified
> presents online music mixing; resources for Windows NT
> users; virtual hologram museum; writers, designers,
> photographers Web site; Planet Science daily science
> news; updated special Internet connections; HTML book in
> German; new on Usenet; online today.//
> (ii960329-023) (884 words)
>
> Telecom execs foresee rapid shift to online sales
> //In overwhelming numbers, top telecommunications
> executives say their industry is being revolutionized by
> interactive multimedia, although their employees may
> have different thoughts, according to a survey by the
> Alliance for Converging Technologies.//
> (ii960329-024) (657 words)
>
> Microsoft Network reaches one million subscribers
> //Microsoft's Microsoft Network (MSN) is the fastest
> starting Internet online service in history, Microsoft officials
> claim, with more than one million members signing on via
> the company's Windows 95 OS. Now, MSN officials say
> they are looking towards the future, where MSN will be
> rooted in the architecture of the Web.//
> (ii960329-025) (476 words)
>
> E-Span opens access to "ResumePro Database"
> //E-Span, an online career service provider, has opened
> posting access to its "ResumePro Database." The service
> will give consumers the ability to display their business
> credentials before E-Span's nearly 2,000 corporate clients
> connected to the Internet.//
> (ii960329-026) (409 words)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> GENERAL & MISCELLANEOUS ()
>
> Virtual reality medical training
> //Doctors attending this week's American College of
> Cardiology (ACC) conference in Orlando, Florida, can
> experience first-hand how to open up blocked arteries that
> cause heart attacks. Wearing state-of-the-art virtual reality
> helmets, physicians can reportedly feel as if they are being
> miniaturized and injected into the heart's left atrium.//
> (ii960329-027) (438 words)
>
> Multimedia training for office networks
> //Anderson Soft-Teach has announced the network version
> of their SmartTrainer line of multimedia training products
> for Windows and the Microsoft Office. Employing
> "scalable" multimedia technology, the new version allows
> the customer to tailor the level of multimedia delivered in
> a network environment.//
> (ii960329-028) (495 words)
>
> Softbank continues US buying spree, more to come
> //Softbank has signed a letter of intent to make a
> substantial investment in Interactive Marketing (IMI), a US
> company with interests in many of the areas that Softbank
> and its subsidiaries already operate. The news comes as
> the latest in a string of US purchases the company, led by
> Masayoshi Son, a man described as "Japan's Bill Gates,"
> has made.//
> (ii960329-029) (694 words)
>
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:39:10 +0200
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From: Petr Snajdr
Subject: Microsofti pojeti slova SECURE v LAN a WAN
In-Reply-To:
Dobry den,
tak jsem se "prochazel" po internetu a vicemene nahodou narazil
na opravdu peknou vec.
Microsoft se chvasta a nesetri terminy jako C2,B2,ze jeho produky jsou
uplne chranene atd. atd. skoda to rozvadet dal.
Ale je to pravda ?
Jsou opravdu programy microsoftu zajistene a nemaji zadna zadni vratka ?
Cim platite za pouzivani microsoftich programu ?
jestli je to pravada - to muzete posoudit sami.
tech vratek je vic a nejenom do MS WORDu,EXCELu,Money (!!!!),Win95 a NT.
Nektera jsou menisi jina pekne velka.Nektera jso jiz opravena,ale nektera
z nich taky ne anebo neuplne a nektere z techto oprav jsou funkcni jen v
anglicke
mutaci ....
Neverite ?
vite jiste,ze vas pevny disk s win95 neni nabizen komukoli kdo o to z
internetu pozada ?
Je vase heslo JEN retezcem alfanum. znaku,ktery stejne nei potreba ?
jste si jisti,ze vse na NTFS disku windows NT je nedostupne bez vaseho
hesla a
ze heslo na vasem Win95 znate opravdu jen vy ???
tady je jeden z nekolika zdroju,ktere se na Internetu zajimaji danou
problematikou
--------------------------------------
http://www.c2.org/hackmsoft/
http://www.somar.com/security.htm
--------------------------------------
...a posledni zamysleni.Myslite,ze to co je tak volne na internetu je vse
a
ze zadne dalsi chyby a zadni vratka nejsou ???
Srovnejte si co tvrdi microsoft (www.microsoft.com),fakta a jsem zvedav
na vase reakce.
S pozdravem
Petr snajdr
BTW:a zadnou paniku ;-) tohle urcite neni vsechno ;)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 06:49:21 MET-2DST
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From: Petr Vodicka
Organization: VSZ Brno
Subject: NT 3.51 a skanery
X-To: winnt-l@dec51.faf.cuni
Vazeni,
chtel bych se zeptat:
Je mozne pripojit a zprovoznit scanner Hewlet Packard 4c pod Windows NT
3.51?
Pritom mi jedno, zda pod Workstation nebo pod Serverem.
Vtip je totiz v tom, ze scaner jede (protoze ma drivery) pod Windows 3.1X
a pod Windows 95, pod NT se program nainstaluje, ale po spusteni neprobiha
korektne komunikace program - scaner. Tvari se to, jako by tam scaner
vubec nebyl...
Diky,
Petr Vodicka
vodicka@vszbr.cz
P.S. Specialni drivery pro NT to nema...
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:47:50 +0200
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From: Machek Pavel
Subject: Re: BERTE SI TO NASPET!!!
In-Reply-To: <9604030853.aa05811@perun.valm.sk>
On Wed, 3 Apr 1996, Vladimir Rengevic wrote:
> >
> > ITNS/INT
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> >
Priste prosim pouzijte misto adresy "Reply-to:" adresu "From:".
Dekuji.
pavel machek
Protoze to myslim vseobecne, pouzil jsem "Reply-to:" ;-)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 10:11:10 +0100
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From: MARTIN HRUBY
Organization: Technical University Zlin
Subject: Re: BERTE SI TO NASPET!!!
To bylo fakt chytre, poslat to znova vsem ucastnikum konference.
Puvodce toho inzeratu vam bude vdecny.
Martin Hruby
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:08:21 EST
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From: Pavel Janecek
Organization: Czech Management Center
Subject: Re: NT 3.51 a skanery
> Je mozne pripojit a zprovoznit scanner Hewlet Packard 4c pod Windows NT
> 3.51?
> Pritom mi jedno, zda pod Workstation nebo pod Serverem.
> Vtip je totiz v tom, ze scaner jede (protoze ma drivery) pod Windows 3.1X
> a pod Windows 95, pod NT se program nainstaluje, ale po spusteni neprobiha
> korektne komunikace program - scaner. Tvari se to, jako by tam scaner
> vubec nebyl...
Podobny problem jsem mel asi pred tydnem. Po instalaci vse okay.
Druhy den jsem prisel, zapnul a nic. Vtip byl v tom, ze je potreba
nejdrive zapnout scanner a potom PC, v mem pripade W95 paneuro. asi
ty drivery nebudou to prave orechove. Pod NT zkusenosti nemaje, ale
zkuste to.
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 10:09:54 GMT+1200
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From: Vincent Kravec
Organization: TU Kosice, Mechanical Engineering
Subject: Re: KOHO TO YAUJIMA????
Prosim Vas , uz ked niekto spravil poriadnu ftakovinu tak aspon neposielate
ako reply celu vec. Nechcem tu rozoberat co to malo byt (uz to bolo
dostatocnym sposobom vyjadrene a ja sa ktomu pripajam ) ale dokazem si zivo
predstavit, ked sa po konektnuti cez modem si user nataha postu a zisti ze je
tam stado smeti co tam nemaju co robit a este mu to ako reply posielame.
Okrem ineho mi to trocha pripomina sialenstvo okolo akehosi virusu co sa mal
sirit citanim posty.
Prijemny den vsetkym.
vincent kravec FVU SjF TU Kosice, Letna 9 041 87 Kosice
e-mail: kravec@sjfnov.tuke.sk tel :095/399062-73 kl. 485
supervisor: sjfnov.tuke.sk
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 12:38:12 +0100
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Comments: Authenticated sender is
From: Petr Opletal
Organization: ESF MU Brno
Subject: Re: Microsofti pojeti slova SECURE v LAN a WAN
Dne 3 Apr 96 v 9:39, Petr Snajdr napsal:
> Jsou opravdu programy microsoftu zajistene ...
Nemohu se zdrzet reakce - ackoli to nema smysl.
Domnivam se, ze mezi uzivateli pocitacu neni nikdo, kdo by si
myslel, ze existuje nedobytny system. A pokud existuje, je jeho cena
pro obycejne smrtelniky neprijatelna.
Kazdy kvalifikovany spravce systemu vi, ze z hlediska certifikaci a
jinych nesmyslu jde o to, aby prislusny system umoznoval urcitou
minimalni sadu opatreni.
Podle meho nazoru se ucelovemu prekrucovani faktu rika demagogie a ja
osobne to oznacuji za "delat ze mne blbce".
BTW: Zkuste se dostat do pocitace se zamcenym BIOS v zamcene
kancelari v hlidane budove.
Zdravim
Petr Opletal, katedra rizeni ESF MU Brno, Zelny trh 2/3, 657 90 Brno
petr@econ.muni.cz, tel. (42-5) 43321209 - 254, fax 42214769
[Pegasus for Windows; MIME ISO-8859-2] WinTalk petr@pandora.econ.muni.cz
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:06:49 MET-2DST
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From: Petr Vodicka
Organization: VSZ Brno
Subject: Adresa konference o WINDOWS NT
Nevi prosim Vas nekdo adresu konference o Windows NT. Dlouho jsem
s ni komunikoval a najednout se tam nemohu dostat. Myslim, ze
se nekdy zmenila adresa, ale nevim na co...
Dekuji
Petr Vodicka
vodicka@vszbr.cz
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:09:00 C
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From: Rudisar Ladislav
Subject: Re: Adresa konference o WINDOWS NT
Adresa je:
listserv@dec2000.faf.cuni.cz
a konference se jmenuje winnt-l. Informace o tom najdete take na:
http://emwac.faf.cuni.cz
kde je mimo jine i reseni pripojovani HP scanneru na WIndows NT i drivery
pro tyto scannery ve WIndows 95, ktere funguji dobre a nezavisle na tom
co zapinate drive.
Zdravi,
#
# Ladislav Rudisar
# European Microsoft Windows NT Academic Center (EMWAC CZ)
# URL: http://emwac.faf.cuni.cz
# Faculty of Pharmacy, Charles University
# URL: http://www.faf.cuni.cz, http://www.cuni.cz
# Heyrovskeho 1203, 500 05 Hradec Kralove
# Czech Republic
#
# tel. +42-49-5210835
# fax +42-49-5210002
# e-mail: rudisar@faf.cuni.cz
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From: owner-csinfo-l[SMTP:owner-csinfo-l@EARN.CVUT.CZ]
Sent: 3. dubna 1996 11:06
To: Multiple recipients of list CSINFO-L
Subject: Adresa konference o WINDOWS NT
Nevi prosim Vas nekdo adresu konference o Windows NT. Dlouho jsem
s ni komunikoval a najednout se tam nemohu dostat. Myslim, ze
se nekdy zmenila adresa, ale nevim na co...
Dekuji
Petr Vodicka
vodicka@vszbr.cz
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:23:50 +0100
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From: Prochazka Daniel
Organization: Harvard Group
Subject: Re: Adresa konference o WINDOWS NT
Petr Vodicka wrote:
>
> Nevi prosim Vas nekdo adresu konference o Windows NT. Dlouho jsem
> s ni komunikoval a najednout se tam nemohu dostat. Myslim, ze
> se nekdy zmenila adresa, ale nevim na co...
>
> Dekuji
> Petr Vodicka
> vodicka@vszbr.cz
Meni se tim i komunikace s listserverm. Nyni se muzete
do jednotlivych listu prihlasit tak, ze poslete mail na:
WINNT-L-REQUEST@DEC2000.FAF.CUNI.CZ
a do textu (ne subjectu !) napisete:
SUBSCRIBE
nebo
JOIN
Zdravi Dan.
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:58:58 MET
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From: Rostislav Kocman
Organization: Studovna SKM VUT Brno
Subject: Re: Microsoft security
Souhlasim s nazorem, ze bezpecny system neexistuje, ale nektere
systemy se muzou priblizit. Myslim, ze WinNT uz diky obdrzeni
zminenych certifikatu bezpecnosti nebudou tak otevrene. A taky jsem
cetl, ze se Pentagon rozhodl pouzivat WinNT. To znamena, ze asi vi,
jak na tom WinNT s bezpecnosti jsou (nebo ma Big Gate$ na Billa
Clintona opravdu takovy vliv, jak se rika). Taky si ale myslim, ze
velke instituce, kde opravdu maji v pocitacich opravdu cenna
data pouzivaji ruzne UNIXy. V tom je velka vyhoda pro Ms, protoze
profesionalni hackeri jsou vycviceni prave na ty UNIXy a s WinNT si
hraje akorat par amateru, co snazi akorat smazat nejakou sit, ale
rozhodne by z te nejake site, kam se pohodlne dostanou, nedostali ani
byte uzitecnych informaci, aniz by po sobe nechali stopy. Proto se
domnivam, ze pro ty situace, kde jsou WinNT nasazeny, jsou bezpecne.
Nezminuju se o ostatnich Ms pseudoOS, ktere nejsou urceny pro
serverove aplikace a neni u nich potreba nejak zavratne chranit data.
Ale pomerne snadno nabouratelny je NetWare, kde na mene zabezpecenych
systemech se da zpristupnit jine ucty pomoci kombinace MAP.EXE a par
dalsich. A uplne nejlepsi je pouzivat heslo nekoho jineho. Login name
se da zjistit pomoci NETUSER a password obvykle byva snadno
zapamatovatelne slovo, tj. krestni jmeno uziv. nebo jeho manzelky,
deti, tchyne, rodne cislo, telefon, miry milenky atd., tzn. snadno
zjistitelne slovo!!!!!. Lidi, kteri si daji heslo vysledek funkce
RANDOM, je opravdu malo.
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 15:10:07 CET
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From: Milos Rysavy
Subject: Re: BERTE SI TO NASPET!!!
>>
>> ITNS/INT
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>Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 08:53:08 +0200
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>From: Vladimir Rengevic
>Subject: Re: BERTE SI TO NASPET!!!
>To: Multiple recipients of list CSINFO-L
>In-Reply-To: <199604011136.NAA12384@prg.traveller.cz> from "ITNS
administraor"
> at Apr 1, 96 01:31:18 pm
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 12:48:51 EST
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From: Jan Ilavsky
Subject: Hledam spojeni na Poldovku
Vazeni,
zkousel jsem par ruznych servisu, ale asi ne ten spravny. Potrebuji spojeni
(pro zacatek by mi stacil nejaky postmaster) na Poldi Kladno. Vim, ze
existuje domena poldi.cz, ale nemuzu se dostat dal. Ma nekdo nejakou
genialni radu? Je tu nekdo z Poldovky? Rad bych se tam s nekym spojil...
Diky,
Honza
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 21:16:41 +0200
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From: Petr Snajdr
Subject: Re: Microsoft security
In-Reply-To:
On Wed, 3 Apr 1996, Rostislav Kocman wrote:
> Souhlasim s nazorem, ze bezpecny system neexistuje, ale nektere
> systemy se muzou priblizit. Myslim, ze WinNT uz diky obdrzeni
> zminenych certifikatu bezpecnosti nebudou tak otevrene. A taky jsem
Muzu se zeptat - a n co ten certifikat maji ?
Napr. NW 4.x ho ma na sit,clienta,server (C2) a NT ?
naposledy kdyz jsem o tom slysel tak meli NT cerifikat C2 na single
stanici ;)
> cetl, ze se Pentagon rozhodl pouzivat WinNT. To znamena, ze asi vi,
> jak na tom WinNT s bezpecnosti jsou (nebo ma Big Gate$ na Billa
> Clintona opravdu takovy vliv, jak se rika). Taky si ale myslim, ze
> velke instituce, kde opravdu maji v pocitacich opravdu cenna
> data pouzivaji ruzne UNIXy. V tom je velka vyhoda pro Ms, protoze
ono to bude taky tim,ze nektere unixy jdou trochu dal nez je C2 a B2...
> profesionalni hackeri jsou vycviceni prave na ty UNIXy a s WinNT si
> hraje akorat par amateru, co snazi akorat smazat nejakou sit, ale
byvavalo..spustu lidi M4 stve tak,ze nelituji casu nad prolezanim NT ;)
> rozhodne by z te nejake site, kam se pohodlne dostanou, nedostali ani
> byte uzitecnych informaci, aniz by po sobe nechali stopy. Proto se
pokud mi dovolite na NT serveru nabootovat se svych 2 disket - klidne vam
okopiruji cely NTFS disk na pripojeny HDD s FAT ;-))))))
> domnivam, ze pro ty situace, kde jsou WinNT nasazeny, jsou bezpecne.
> Nezminuju se o ostatnich Ms pseudoOS, ktere nejsou urceny pro
Ano,stupen ochrany je pomerne dobry....ona u NT je taky dost dobra
pasivni obrana...oproti unixum je znacne mene flexibilni a spoustu veci
bezne ani nedeovede....kdyz to HODNE prezenu - je to jako pokouset se
proniknout do vzdaleneho pocitace kde bezi jen DOS ;-))))))))
> serverove aplikace a neni u nich potreba nejak zavratne chranit data.
Ano jiste,ale neuvazujete tim spravnym smerem.
a,hodne lidi si dava stejne heslo vsude.
b,neni problem vam nastrazit trojskeho kone......
c,..atd..
> Ale pomerne snadno nabouratelny je NetWare, kde na mene zabezpecenych
> systemech se da zpristupnit jine ucty pomoci kombinace MAP.EXE a par
> dalsich. A uplne nejlepsi je pouzivat heslo nekoho jineho. Login name
> se da zjistit pomoci NETUSER a password obvykle byva snadno
> zapamatovatelne slovo, tj. krestni jmeno uziv. nebo jeho manzelky,
> deti, tchyne, rodne cislo, telefon, miry milenky atd., tzn. snadno
> zjistitelne slovo!!!!!. Lidi, kteri si daji heslo vysledek funkce
A tohle na NT neplati ?????? Jmeno uzivatele NT serveru jde pri urcite
konstalaci hvezd zjistit i via internet ;))))
Jinak NW ma take sve mouchy,ale pro hackerske kousky je vzhledem k
tomy,ze je jen pouhy file server trochu nepruzny....
> RANDOM, je opravdu malo.
>
S pozdravem
Petr Snajdr
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 00:10:16 +0200
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From: Tonda Benes
Organization: Obludarium
Subject: BAZAR
Dovoluji si oznamit vsem pripadnym zajemcum, ze na stroji
mail.kolej.mff.cuni.cz byla zrizena konference "bazar-l".
Cilem je umoznit vsem zucastnenym prodat, koupit ci vymenit vse, co
potrebuji, zejmena veci okolo pocitacu. V ramci podpory zlepsovani
zivotni urovne studaku je mozno prostrednictvim konference nabizet
praci.
Upozornuji predem, ze konference zprostredkovava pouze prilezitostne
potreby soukromych osob. Se zlou se potazi autori majlu obsahujicich
podretezce typu "... do vyprodani zasob.", "... plati stale ..."
apod.
Tonda
moderator konference
Tonda Benes * Department of Software Engineering
Faculty of Mathematics and Physics * Charles University Praha
E-mail: benes@kki.ms.mff.cuni.cz * tel: +42 (2) 8551042 ext.776
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 06:04:07 MET-2DST
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From: Petr Vodicka
Organization: VSZ Brno
Subject: Re: Microsoft security
....
> pokud mi dovolite na NT serveru nabootovat se svych 2 disket - klidne vam
> okopiruji cely NTFS disk na pripojeny HDD s FAT ;-))))))
- Totez muze rici opravdovy odbornik o KAZDEM systemu
- Myslim si, ze dalsim krokem ke zvyseni bezpecnosti (pro tento
pripad - tedy kdy dostanete pocitac fyzicky k sobe na stul a ted
ho budete 'lamat') je pouzivani specialnich 'security cards', ktere
sifruji on-line data na disku. Pak je zase situace o neco slozitejsi.
Otazka je, zda takove karty jiz existuji pro NT. (Pro DOS/WINDOWS jiz
ano)
- Ochrana proti zneuziti hesla (kdy se nekdo jiny dozvi Vase heslo) je
jedina - dovolit se Vasim heslem hlasit pouze Z URCITE ADRESY, v
urcitou dobu.... Jinak si myslim, ze to nejde...
S pozdravem
Petr Vodicka
vodicka@vszbr.cz
P.S. A timto zdravim Petra Snajdra, kteremu timto dekuji za jeho kriticke
pripominky k Windows NT. Kdyby tim prispel ke zvyseni jejich
kvality (jakoz i spolehlivosti), byl bych mu (a verim, ze i rada jinych
uzivatelu NT) velmi zavazan...
Neb neberme jeho 'utoky' proti NT osobne. NT opravdu nejsou tim, za co
je se Microsoft snazi prezentovat. Jsou celkem dobre (a PODSTATNE lepsi
nez napr. bombasticky reklamovane Win 95, ktere me osobne tezce zklamaly,
zj. jejich nestabilita), ale zkuste se jenom podivat, co vsechno spravuje
Service Pack 4 !
P.P.S. Osobne se ale obavam, zda bere Microsoft pripominky a zajmy beznych
uzivatelu v potaz - viz. nove standardy, nekompatibilita...
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 09:00:12 +0100
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From: MARTIN HRUBY
Organization: Technical University Zlin
Subject: Re: BAZAR
>
> Upozornuji predem, ze konference zprostredkovava pouze prilezitostne
> potreby soukromych osob. Se zlou se potazi autori majlu obsahujicich
> podretezce typu "... do vyprodani zasob.", "... plati stale ..."
> apod.
A proc vam to tak vadi ? Me to prece je jedno, jestli kupuju od
soukrome osoby nebo od firmy, ktera dela vyprodej. Spis bych rekl, ze
cim je nabidka sirsi, tim lepe. Leda ze by to porusovalo nejake vase
predpisy o uzivani I-netu. No, pak se neda nic delat :(.
Martin Hruby
>
>
> Tonda
> moderator konference
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 13:37:59 +0200
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From: Petr Snajdr
Subject: Re: Microsoft security
In-Reply-To:
On Thu, 4 Apr 1996, Petr Vodicka wrote:
> ....
>
> > pokud mi dovolite na NT serveru nabootovat se svych 2 disket - klidne vam
> > okopiruji cely NTFS disk na pripojeny HDD s FAT ;-))))))
>
> - Totez muze rici opravdovy odbornik o KAZDEM systemu
Muze se to ric treba o Novelu 3.x ( 4.x jde,ale cert vi jak),OS/2,ale to je
jina vec..... problem je jak jednoduse to jde udelat.
V NT zrovna proti tomuto NEJSOU ZADNE prekazky.....
je rozdil mezi nekolika minutami upravy kernelu a pripravy bootovacich
disket a lustenim RSA nebo ne ??? ;-)))))
IMHO takovy Linux se da upravit do daleko lepsiho stavu (tim jsem nerek,ze
by takovy byl standardne) a to je OS zadarmo nebo za mizivy poplatek s
podporou atd...(hlavne je dostatecne otevreny k cemukoliv)
> - Myslim si, ze dalsim krokem ke zvyseni bezpecnosti (pro tento
> pripad - tedy kdy dostanete pocitac fyzicky k sobe na stul a ted
> ho budete 'lamat') je pouzivani specialnich 'security cards', ktere
> sifruji on-line data na disku. Pak je zase situace o neco slozitejsi.
Ale ;))))
Podivjet se na www.microsoft.com ! Nesrovnavejte s tim co by mohlo,ale co
tvrdi vyrobce !!!!! Klidne si muzete prctavit cloveka,ktery si NT
kopupi..do pocitacu moc nevidi a pak bude prekvapen .Jak je to mozne ?
Navstivne www.microsoft.com.
> Otazka je, zda takove karty jiz existuji pro NT. (Pro DOS/WINDOWS jiz
> ano)
Urcite i pro NT.Moc bych se divil kdyby ne....
> - Ochrana proti zneuziti hesla (kdy se nekdo jiny dozvi Vase heslo) je
> jedina - dovolit se Vasim heslem hlasit pouze Z URCITE ADRESY, v
> urcitou dobu.... Jinak si myslim, ze to nejde...
>
Pravy cas na maly priklad.uznavam,ze za moc nestoji,ma par chyb a navic
s danym tematem souvisi jen velice okrajove,ale prece. Prectavte si,ze jako
admin NT serveru brousite vody WWW a narazite na DOC soubor s macrovirem.
Rekneme,ze nemate nainstalovanu zadnou ochranu proti macro virum a
rekneme,ze jak to uz tak byva mate DOC asociovany s Wordem.
Takze MacroVirus se natahne ,rozbehne a pozor ... zacne si hrat primo s
NT win32 API.Ne ze by slo vsechno tak hladce,ale v podstate se behem
kraticke doby muze stat "panem" NT .... neni problem aby distribuoval
vase heslo nekde na inet ,nakazil par .EXE souboru ,porozhled se po
nejakem tom HTML a protuneloval ochranu pameti k jinym uzivatelum a
porozhledl se po jejich HDD .... a tak dale a tak dale ....
Ale to jen pro ilustraci a zamysleni jak to s tou bezpecnosti je.
(dany priklad je IMHO realizovatelny,ale prilis slozity)
> S pozdravem
> Petr Vodicka
> vodicka@vszbr.cz
>
> P.S. A timto zdravim Petra Snajdra, kteremu timto dekuji za jeho kriticke
> pripominky k Windows NT. Kdyby tim prispel ke zvyseni jejich
> kvality (jakoz i spolehlivosti), byl bych mu (a verim, ze i rada jinych
> uzivatelu NT) velmi zavazan...
kdyby byli NT trochu otevrenejsi nebyl by problem to nejak jednoduse vyresit.
To ,ze se o chybach vi je IMHO taky urcity stupen ochrany,ne ????
Minimalne to povede k zamysleni proc nemit stejne heslo vsude a NT server
uprostred ucebny ;-))))
Ale jeste jinak.pokuste se do NT dodat neco noveho .... brzi narazite na
neprekonatelnou barieru nedokumentovanych API funkci,struktur atd.atd.
:-((((
> Neb neberme jeho 'utoky' proti NT osobne. NT opravdu nejsou tim, za co
> je se Microsoft snazi prezentovat. Jsou celkem dobre (a PODSTATNE lepsi
~~~~~~~~~~
samozrejme ;))
> nez napr. bombasticky reklamovane Win 95, ktere me osobne tezce zklamaly,
> zj. jejich nestabilita), ale zkuste se jenom podivat, co vsechno spravuje
> Service Pack 4 !
;-))))
>
> P.P.S. Osobne se ale obavam, zda bere Microsoft pripominky a zajmy beznych
> uzivatelu v potaz - viz. nove standardy, nekompatibilita...
>
ano,ale to je asi obecne zname.treba takove Microsoft TCP/IP (winsock)
neni k memu uzasu komatibilni s temi co jsou pouzivane ve win 3.1,ale to
je rozsahlejsi a slozitejsi problem...
S pozdravem
Petr Snajdr
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 13:39:29 +0200
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From: Petr Snajdr
Subject: Re: Adresa konference o WINDOWS NT
In-Reply-To:
On Wed, 3 Apr 1996, Petr Vodicka wrote:
> Nevi prosim Vas nekdo adresu konference o Windows NT. Dlouho jsem
> s ni komunikoval a najednout se tam nemohu dostat. Myslim, ze
> se nekdy zmenila adresa, ale nevim na co...
>
Z hlavy ji nevim,ale mela by byt dostupna na NEWS.... a tam by mela byt i
adresa
s pozdravem
Petr Snajdr
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 14:05:51 +0200
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From: Dan Lukes
Organization: Obludarium
Subject: Re: BAZAR
Dne 4 Apr 96 v 9:00, MARTIN HRUBY uvedl(a):
> > Upozornuji predem, ze konference zprostredkovava pouze prilezitostne
> > potreby soukromych osob. Se zlou se potazi autori majlu obsahujicich
> > podretezce typu "... do vyprodani zasob.", "... plati stale ..."
> > apod.
>
> A proc vam to tak vadi ? Me to prece je jedno, jestli kupuju od
> soukrome osoby nebo od firmy, ktera dela vyprodej. Spis bych rekl, ze
> cim je nabidka sirsi, tim lepe. Leda ze by to porusovalo nejake vase
> predpisy o uzivani I-netu. No, pak se neda nic delat :(.
No, nevim presne jak je to s predpisy (resp jestli zrovna i tohle
postihuji), ale jsme velmi mlada sit, navic prvni sveho typu na UK, dala
nam neskutecne mnozstvi behani a prace a tak nechceme pripustit ani stin
jakehokoli podezreni z cehokoli (treba ze umoznujeme komercni organizaci
setrit svoje naklady na reklamu bezplatnou reklamou na akademickem
stroji/siti).
Navic, pri zalozeni konference bylo skutecne mysleno spise na obchod s
pouzitymi vecmi, ktere uz majitel nechce (to nezahrnuje prirozenou snahu
kazde firmy zbaviti se zbozi :-) ) a ktere by nekdo potrebnejsi jeste
pouzil ...
Dan Lukes
P.S. Autor originalni zpravy neni do konference prihlasen, nicmene vyse
uvedeny nazor lze povazovat za zamenitelny s jeho nazorem.
(Neco jako Authoritative answer ze sekundarniho name-serveru :-) )
Dan Lukes, Patkova 3/B1206, Praha 8, Czech Republic
tel +42-(2)-8551040 ext 776, E-Mail: LUKES(or Postmaster)@Menza.MFF.CUNI.CZ
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 14:17:09 +0200
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From: Dan Lukes
Organization: Obludarium
Subject: Timezone! (a cas vubec)
Dne 4 Apr 96 v 9:00, stroje prenasejici zpravu uvedly:
(Zkraceno, jen vyznamne radky a jen to dulezite z nich)
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Jeste si dovolim predchazejici dopis o BAZARu zneuzit k jedne prosbe.
Zmenil se nam cas. Mame +0200, pripadne nejake jine podobne oznaceni (MET
DST ?). Zkuste, prosim, na svych strojich tuto skutecnost nejak zohlednit.
Jedna se samozrejme o ptakovinu a kazdy mame spoustu dulezitejsich
starosti, nicmene, jednak to vypada hloupe (uznavam, vec nazoru) a jednak
me muj postovni klient (a treba i vam Vas) radi postu podle casu odeslani
prepocitaneho dle casove zony. A takhle se mu nemuze podarit radi zpravy
a prislusna Re: dobre, nebot neni schopen urcit kdy kdo co psal spravne
... (vec pohodli, uznavam ze meho za cenu Vasi prace s nastavenim)
S pozdravem,
Dan Lukes
Dan Lukes, Patkova 3/B1206, Praha 8, Czech Republic
tel +42-(2)-8551040 ext 776, E-Mail: LUKES(or Postmaster)@Menza.MFF.CUNI.CZ
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 18:46:45 -100
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From: Daniel Docekal
Subject: Re: FIDO konference
In-Reply-To: <307BC848AE@ikaros.zcu.cz>
In <307BC848AE@ikaros.zcu.cz>, on 02/16/96 at 09:53 AM,
Stanislav Kolar said:
>Hi, Daniel !
>> FidoNet si udrzuje malou ceskou specifiku - namyslenost,
>> podrazdenost a nechut k jakekoliv spolupraci.
>BTW: Nejsi ty, jakozto jeden ze zakladatelu FIDO komunity u nas, trochu
>rozcarovan soucasnym stavem ? Ja souhlasim s nazorem, ze FIDO konference
>maji mnohem vetsi uroven nez vetsina ceskych INET-
>konferenci, ovsem struktura osazenstva, kde se vzajemne prolinaji nazory
>spickovych odborniku s detinskymi vykriky 15-ti letych chlapcu, mi moc
>nevyhovuje ...
Rozcarovan? Ano a Ne. Diky trem letem zivota v Rotterdamu znam i jine Fido
nez ceske a rekneme ze toto prolinani je jedna z beznych specifik
fidonetu. Nese to pochopitelne to co to nese. Internet ma "drobnou"
vyhodu, preci jenom k nemu nema pristup kazdy (zatim).
Souhlas ze FidoNet (CESKY) ma velice dobrou strukturu konferenci. Nicmene
anglicky internet predci tisicinasobne anglicky (mluvici) fidonet, takze v
tom problem asi nebude.
>Mohl bys popsat, jak takova funkcni gate vypada ?
GIGO je funkcni gate, jestli me to tu dlouho bude stvat tak ji behem PETI
minut zprovoznim :) Ja nevim jak ji popsat, umi:
a) gate pro e-mail
b) gate pro newsgroupy
Je transparentni, je snadno konfigurovatelna, umi UUCP/SOUP format pro
newsy (takze je to snadno realizovatelne), umi prevadet FidoNet konference
na newsgroupy internetu, naopak umi prevadet interente newsgroupy do
fidonet konferenci. Umi uzivatele a umi jim zajistovat e-mail adresy (v
ramci jednoho inet systemu).
>> nesmyslnost registrace je zrejma.
>Tady asi sehrala svoji roli pravidla CESNETu.
Spatna pravidla je budto nutne zrusit nebo je ignorovat, zrusi se sama. V
tomto bode se mnou nepochybne mnoho lidi nebude souhlasit, ale ja mam
povahu anarchisty....
>> hm..... neresitelne a zbytecne, proc si musime hrat na policajty a proc
>> musime kazdeho podezirat z neceho jeste nez to (mozna) udela?
>No - pripada mi to spravedlive - nouda nebo pointa taky nedostanu, aniz
>si nebudu muset neco precist. FIGA umoznovala pripojit se do FIDA
>kazdemu, kdo nekde sehnal jeji adresu (aniz vedel, o co vlastne jde) -
>pak nasledovalo experimentovani a postupne zjisteni, ze je to vlastne
>gateway do sveta uplne jine filosofie...
Hm, internet mi taky umoznuje se pripojit k cemukoliv a nemit o tom ani
poneti. Zakazeme ho?
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Data a.s., everything i do i do with OS/2, Czech OS/2 User Group
chairman, hardware, software, internet, AskOS/2
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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 20:41:30 +0200
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From: Petr Snajdr
Subject: Re: FIDO konference
In-Reply-To:
> GIGO je funkcni gate, jestli me to tu dlouho bude stvat tak ji behem PETI
> minut zprovoznim :) Ja nevim jak ji popsat, umi:
Zprovozni .....
neco jako bbs.fido.cz je totiz asi mrtav vec..tento tyden jsem se tam
hlasil a opet se mi napaslo : ...koncem listopadu..
tak nevim..koncem listopadu ktereho roku ?????
ma prectava bbs.fido,cz je takova:
v temne mistnosti plne pavuci stoji pod 4 cm vrstvou prachu pocitac a
kolemn na zidlickach ,zaveseni v pavucinach 3 kostlivici .....
Jinak prece neni mozne aby nefungovla ?
> >Tady asi sehrala svoji roli pravidla CESNETu.
>
> Spatna pravidla je budto nutne zrusit nebo je ignorovat, zrusi se sama. V
> tomto bode se mnou nepochybne mnoho lidi nebude souhlasit, ale ja mam
> povahu anarchisty....
Ja si myslim,ze IMHO utoky se strany FIDa byli veci nez jakakoli jina
pravidla....
S pozdravem
Petr Snajdr
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 11:02:16 +0100
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From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ji=F8=ED_Kuchta?=
Organization: Technical University of Brno
Subject: Re: FIDO konference
Dne 4 Apr 96 v 20:41, napsal(a) Petr Snajdr:
>
> > >Tady asi sehrala svoji roli pravidla CESNETu.
> >
> > Spatna pravidla je budto nutne zrusit nebo je ignorovat, zrusi se sama. V
> > tomto bode se mnou nepochybne mnoho lidi nebude souhlasit, ale ja mam
> > povahu anarchisty....
V necem mas pravdu. Ja uz se nekolik mesicu snazim dopatrat, jak by
se CESNET tvaril, kdybych zalozil konferenci dostupnou z FIDO i z
Internetu, zatim to vypada, ze CESNET je neco jako >nul .....
Stejne tak by mne zajimalo, jestli bych mohl eventualnimu zajemci v
Inetu posilat FIDO konference pres nasi gateway. Jenze lide z CESNEtu
to tady stejne nectou,....
>
> Ja si myslim,ze IMHO utoky se strany FIDa byli veci nez jakakoli jina
> pravidla....
>
>
> S pozdravem
> Petr Snajdr
>
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From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ji=F8=ED_Kuchta?=
Organization: Technical University of Brno
Subject: Re: Timezone! (a cas vubec)
Dne 4 Apr 96 v 14:17, napsal(a) Dan Lukes:
>
> Jeste si dovolim predchazejici dopis o BAZARu zneuzit k jedne prosbe.
> Zmenil se nam cas. Mame +0200, pripadne nejake jine podobne oznaceni (MET
> DST ?). Zkuste, prosim, na svych strojich tuto skutecnost nejak zohlednit.
> Jedna se samozrejme o ptakovinu a kazdy mame spoustu dulezitejsich
Ona se blbe meni TZ na NetWoru u ktereho porad nekdo sedi (musi se to
restartovat).
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Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 11:13:01 +0100
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From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ji=F8=ED_Kuchta?=
Organization: Technical University of Brno
Subject: Re: FIDO konference
Dne 16 Feb 96 v 18:46, napsal(a) Daniel Docekal:
> Souhlas ze FidoNet (CESKY) ma velice dobrou strukturu konferenci. Nicmene
> anglicky internet predci tisicinasobne anglicky (mluvici) fidonet, takze v
> tom problem asi nebude.
Donedavna jsem si to myslel take. Jenze, pres nasi gateway jsme
zpristupnili skoro vsechny FIDO konference nasim studakum. A nevim
cim to je, jestli jsou uz tak zhyckani WWW a Newsama, ale jevi o to
totalni nezajem. A to neni tak dlouho, kdy nam bylo nadavano, proc
nemaji studaci FIDO pristupne ....
> Je transparentni, je snadno konfigurovatelna, umi UUCP/SOUP format pro
neumi cesky...
Mimochodem, GIGO splnuje predstavy ceskeho FIDA a zvlaste Zenatika o
identifikaci uzivatele? Tj. ne adresa, ale jmeno? A jak se dela
reply? A jak zajistuje treba pri importu z Newsu kategoricky
pozadavek ceskeho FIDA na adresnost zprav?
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Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 12:41:33 +0100
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From: Jiri Vesely
Subject: Data switch
Dobry den,
mam takovyto problem (predem prohlasuji, ze tento text pisi pri plnem
vedomi):
Pouzivam dva pocitace A a B (oba notebooky) a jednu tiskarnu. Protoze jsem
mel odpor vuci pouziti plug-and-play (prepojovani kabelu za behu pocitacu),
poridil jsem data switch (pro dva vstupy) a radoval se. Bohuzel predcasne.
Pocitac A tisknul bezvadne jak primo na tiskarnu, tak pres prepinac pri
vsech moznych kombinacich privodnich kabelu a vstupu. Pocitac B tiskne
primo na tiskarnu, ale pri zapojeni pres prepinac (opet vyzkouseny
vsechny kombinace) tiskne blaboly - mezi pismena vlozi dalsi znaky,
neodradkuje..... Ne dosti na tom, druhy den tisknul spravne a dalsi den
opet stejny zmatek. Spatny kontakt (neboli studenak) vylucuji, nebot vzdy
jsem zkousel i pocitac A a ten problemy nemel. Vzhledem k tomu, ze prepinac
je normalni krabice s tremi konektory (2 x in, 1 x out), mechanickym n-polovym
prepinacem a spoustou propojovacich dratu, toto chovani absolutne nechapu.
Geopatogenni zony jsem nezkoumal, pocitace ani tiskarnu jsem (snad)
neurazil a jiny duvod k tomuto chovani opravdu nevidim :))
Za jakekoliv reakce predem dekuji
Jiri Vesely
vesely@gama.fsv.cvut.cz
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 11:15:53 -100
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From: Daniel Docekal
Subject: Re: BAZAR
In-Reply-To: <5D26581528@Obluda.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>
In <5D26581528@Obluda.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>, on 04/04/96 at 12:10 AM,
Tonda Benes said:
>Cilem je umoznit vsem zucastnenym prodat, koupit ci vymenit vse, co
>potrebuji, zejmena veci okolo pocitacu. V ramci podpory zlepsovani
>zivotni urovne studaku je mozno prostrednictvim konference nabizet praci.
>Upozornuji predem, ze konference zprostredkovava pouze prilezitostne
>potreby soukromych osob. Se zlou se potazi autori majlu obsahujicich
>podretezce typu "... do vyprodani zasob.", "... plati stale ..." apod.
Necht zije a stale se rozviji socialismus do vsech lidi okolo tady
vpraveny a zabudovany az na uroven samotneho jadra.
Vecna snaha neco zakazovat a omezovat neni viditelna u mnoha narodu
sveta, vetsina narodu se naopak snazi mit veci co nejvice volne a
pouzitelne. Ze Cesi maji jinou potrebu?
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Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 12:32:52 +0100
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From: Daniel Docekal
Subject: Re: FIDO konference
In-Reply-To: <29936543BC1@des.fee.vutbr.cz>
In <29936543BC1@des.fee.vutbr.cz>, on 04/05/96 at 11:02 AM,
Ji=F8=ED Kuchta said:
>V necem mas pravdu. Ja uz se nekolik mesicu snazim dopatrat, jak by se
>CESNET tvaril, kdybych zalozil konferenci dostupnou z FIDO i z Internetu=
,
>zatim to vypada, ze CESNET je neco jako >nul .....
Jezisi smarja panenko maria skakava, CESNET prece NEVLASTNI INTERNET,
cesnet vubec nema sanci neco podobneho ovlivnit. A kdyby nahodou chtel ta=
k
je nejvyssi cas jim vysvetlit ze socialismus se nachazi treti dvere
nalevo, pripadne pred rokem 1989 ....
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Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:12:24 EST
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From: Jan Ilavsky
Subject: Re: BAZAR
>In <5D26581528@Obluda.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>, on 04/04/96 at 12:10 AM,
> Tonda Benes said:
>
>
>>Cilem je umoznit vsem zucastnenym prodat, koupit ci vymenit vse, co
>>potrebuji, zejmena veci okolo pocitacu. V ramci podpory zlepsovani
>>zivotni urovne studaku je mozno prostrednictvim konference nabizet praci.
>
>>Upozornuji predem, ze konference zprostredkovava pouze prilezitostne
>>potreby soukromych osob. Se zlou se potazi autori majlu obsahujicich
>>podretezce typu "... do vyprodani zasob.", "... plati stale ..." apod.
>
>Necht zije a stale se rozviji socialismus do vsech lidi okolo tady
>vpraveny a zabudovany az na uroven samotneho jadra.
>
>Vecna snaha neco zakazovat a omezovat neni viditelna u mnoha narodu
>sveta, vetsina narodu se naopak snazi mit veci co nejvice volne a
>pouzitelne. Ze Cesi maji jinou potrebu?
>
>
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>codalan@login.cz, http://www.codalan.cz, ftp://ftp.codalan.cz Computer
>Data a.s., everything i do i do with OS/2, Czech OS/2 User Group chairman,
>hardware, software, internet, AskOS/2
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>
Blbost,
kazda konference ma sva pravidla a tady (pisu z USA BTW) se taky omezuje co
kde kdy a jak (a vzdycky se nejde nekdo, kdo to nedodrzuje)... Na prodej
"podnikovy" at si podniky (soukrome osoby a jine podnikatelske entity)
zalozi svou vlastni konferenci.
Tohle neni socialismus - naopak. Tehdy by ta pravidla nadiktovalo UV
KSC, dneska si je svobodne stanovi zrizovatel...
Honza
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Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 14:18:41 +0100
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From: Daniel Docekal
Subject: Re: FIDO konference
In-Reply-To: <2996408233E@des.fee.vutbr.cz>
In <2996408233E@des.fee.vutbr.cz>, on 04/05/96 at 11:13 AM,
Ji=F8=ED Kuchta said:
>Donedavna jsem si to myslel take. Jenze, pres nasi gateway jsme
>zpristupnili skoro vsechny FIDO konference nasim studakum. A nevim cim t=
o
>je, jestli jsou uz tak zhyckani WWW a Newsama, ale jevi o to totalni
>nezajem. A to neni tak dlouho, kdy nam bylo nadavano, proc nemaji studac=
i
>FIDO pristupne ....
Cteni konferenci je strasne casove narocne a pomer sumu k informaci je
nekolik radu od sebe....
>> Je transparentni, je snadno konfigurovatelna, umi UUCP/SOUP format pro=
>neumi cesky...
Co neumi? To je prece jedno, proste je to 8bit kodovani ktere
transparentne proleze kamkoliv. Pokud to je nutne nejak prekodovat, neni
problem, da se to udelat jak v .MSG formatu na strane FIDa, tak v
SOUP/UUCP formatu na strane internetu.
>Mimochodem, GIGO splnuje predstavy ceskeho FIDA a zvlaste Zenatika o
>identifikaci uzivatele? Tj. ne adresa, ale jmeno? A jak se dela reply? A=
>jak zajistuje treba pri importu z Newsu kategoricky pozadavek ceskeho
>FIDA na adresnost zprav?
Ja uz ani nevim, navic Zenatik neni urcujici element ve vecech jak neco
bude nebo nebude. Ze je nejvetsi krikloun prece jeste neznamena ze se je
podle jeho nazoru treba ridit. Kdyz mohou GIGO pouzivat na vetsine
_oficielnich_ bran mezi fidem a internetem tak asi _oficielni_ problem
zadny nebude.
Nehledejme ve vecech problemy jeste nez nastanou prosim.
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codalan@login.cz, http://www.codalan.cz, ftp://ftp.codalan.cz Computer
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,
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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 02:28:26 +0200
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From: Tonda Benes
Organization: Obludarium
Subject: Re: BAZAR
> >Cilem je umoznit vsem zucastnenym prodat, koupit ci vymenit vse, co
> >potrebuji, zejmena veci okolo pocitacu. V ramci podpory zlepsovani
> >zivotni urovne studaku je mozno prostrednictvim konference nabizet praci.
>
> >Upozornuji predem, ze konference zprostredkovava pouze prilezitostne
> >potreby soukromych osob. Se zlou se potazi autori majlu obsahujicich
> >podretezce typu "... do vyprodani zasob.", "... plati stale ..." apod.
>
> Necht zije a stale se rozviji socialismus do vsech lidi okolo tady
> vpraveny a zabudovany az na uroven samotneho jadra.
>
> Vecna snaha neco zakazovat a omezovat neni viditelna u mnoha narodu
> sveta, vetsina narodu se naopak snazi mit veci co nejvice volne a
> pouzitelne. Ze Cesi maji jinou potrebu?
Drahy pane Docekal,
nevim, jaky na to mate nazor vy, ale v civilizovane spolecnosti byva
zvykem stanovit si pravidla a ta potom dodrzovat. Jako dukaz teto
teorie bych uvedl fakt, ze stejne jko leckde jinde i v tomhle state,
mame ustavu a soubor zakonu, ktere je treba ctit. Ty zakony se
povetsinou zavadeji jako kodifikace cehosi, cemu se rika dobre mravy,
nebo chcete-li, slusnost. V podstate jsou to pravidla, umoznujici
vsem zit tak, aby svym pocinanim prilis neomezovali ostatni a tedy
aby ani sami nebyli prilis omezovani.
Se socialismem tento princip ma spolecneho asi tolik, co holinky a
hodinky. Naopak, ty zakony hovori o takovych vecech, jako je soukrome
vlastnictvi a jeho nedotknutelnost. A ze obcan ma pravo ho branit.
S konferenci je to podobne. Zalozil a administruji ji ja. Cilem je
pomoci lidem a zejmena studakum prodat sve prebytky ci koupit, to co
potrebuji.
Nase sit je soucasti akademicke site MFF UK, nemame tady zajem o
komercni aktivity. At si komercni firmy reklamuji kde chteji - pokud
tim nebudou prilis obtezovat sve okoli. Ale ne v nasi konferenci, ta
slouzi k necemu jinemu.
Nezpochybnujete doufam pravo administratora definovat ucel sve
konference.
Se soudruzskym pozdravem
Tonda
administrator debacene konference
Tonda Benes * Department of Software Engineering
Faculty of Mathematics and Physics * Charles University Praha
E-mail: benes@kki.ms.mff.cuni.cz * tel: +42 (2) 8551042 ext.776
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 14:27:54 +0200
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From: Vladimir Rengevic
Subject: _OSPRAVEDLNENIE_
X-To: linux@infnw.upol.cz
Dovolte mi ospravedlnit sa za nepozornost a obtazovanie Vas, ostatnych :((
Moj mail folder bol znacne zaplneny reklamnymi bludmi, niekolko pociatocnych
sprav malo adresu admin@cosi (odosielatel). Ani vo sne by ma nenapadlo, ze
niekto bude schopny posielat to do konferencie, preto to slo naspet
(dalej bez kontroly obsahu a odosielatela) vsetko Re: hlupy_komentar.
Je mi to rovnako neprijemne ako Vam, takze _VOBEC TO NEBOLO UMYSELNE_
Este raz sa ospravedlnujem
Vlado
rengevic@perun.valm.sk
P.S. Postu si tiez taham domov cez modem, takze ten blbec a neviem co
si spravil podobne problemy ako ostatny :(((((
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 12:41:12 +0200
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orders (after your first order) via E-mail.
He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas,
he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he
still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long
distance rates are cheaper then.
He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had
a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they
could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately
when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new
members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased
their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above
form to them, that is the way to get started!
They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.
They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what
he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.
Once you get in, you'll love them. I do.
Sincerely,
Nicola du Plessis
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 21:54:57 MET-1
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: "Martin Molhanec Ing. K313"
Organization: CVUT FEL Prague, Czech Republic
Subject: Re: FIDO konference
> >jak zajistuje treba pri importu z Newsu kategoricky pozadavek ceskeho
> >FIDA na adresnost zprav?
>
> Ja uz ani nevim, navic Zenatik neni urcujici element ve vecech jak neco
> bude nebo nebude. Ze je nejvetsi krikloun prece jeste neznamena ze se je
> podle jeho nazoru treba ridit. Kdyz mohou GIGO pouzivat na vetsine
> _oficielnich_ bran mezi fidem a internetem tak asi _oficielni_ problem
> zadny nebude.
>
> Nehledejme ve vecech problemy jeste nez nastanou prosim.
>
Promin Danieli, ale nejde o hledani problemu predtim, nezli
nastanou, mam pocit, ze jsi uz byl v republice, kdyz byla velka snaha
ze strany fida ( resp. nekterych jeho clenu ), proti funkci FIGA,
ktera dost dlouhou dobu nez odesel Kostal, fungovala docela dobre,
cili tyto problemu tu jiz byly, a dost pochybuji o tom, ze kdyby GW
zacal provozat nekdo jinej, ze by opet neobjevily.
Ahoj
Martin
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 03:34:18 -0400
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: JohnChen00@AOL.COM
Subject: Interesting Free Offer........
---------------------
Forwarded message:
Subj: Interesting Free Offer........
Date: 96-04-08 02:45:01 EDT
From: JohnChen00
To: announcement.service@r1.f62.n8669.z303.fidonet.org
-----> NOTE: Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for
more info Form." Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More
Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company. You will
get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info
request form below.
IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY: Please make sure you
return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the
actual form below. If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form
onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below
form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.* This is necessary in
order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that
they get daily.
Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not
paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* and/or
*auto-deleted* from the incoming queue of faxes to be read, if your fax:
1. has a cover page;
2. is more than one page
3. is sent more than one time
4. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form
5. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form.
6. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only*
with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard). This last
provision re: no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in
via smail also.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NOTE: Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week. However,
if you have trouble getting through due to the high volume of overseas faxes
coming in during the early morning and late night hours, please note that the
best time to get through to their fax is Monday-Friday, 9 am - 5 pm EST (New
York Time). If you have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have
a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail
(airmail or first class mail).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
*------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------*
REQUEST FOR MORE INFO: please return *only* this section (with no cover
page) via 1-page fax to:
718-967-1550 in the USA
or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to:
Magazine Club Inquiry Center
Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept.
PO Box 990
Staten Island NY 10312-0990
Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged. If you do not
have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you
until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one.
:)
---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED.
MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <---
Name:
Internet email address:
Smail home address:
City-State-Zip:
Country:
Work Tel. #:
Work Fax #:
Home Tel. #:
Home Fax #:
How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: John Chen.
040896-l-ifo
Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:
Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:
Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:
Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you:
Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"):
*------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------*
Catalogue Format Options:
1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total).
2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you
must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to
open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this
version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1
and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document
with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how
to deal with this option.
3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached
text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea),
~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no
special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You
just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands
(unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as
you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut
your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in
option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be
able to do.
4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with
Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who
has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files.
This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your
download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option
#2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do.
Hi fellow 'netters,
My name is John Chen and I recently started using a magazine subscription
club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your
first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over
1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a
subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a
selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every
area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.
Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their
competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price
guarantee.
Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of
what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some
titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy
magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or
hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make
it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all
their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers
themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business
comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak
limited English as a 2nd language.
Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
cut-out all the middlemen.
They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey)
!)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the
freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories
and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell.
Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I
don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully
follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail.
They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less
than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times,
just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They
assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it.
They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I
haved moved from one country to another.
They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a
special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
USA titles they sell.
They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have
clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge
for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that
varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very
friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I
moved from one country to another.
The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you
personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has
one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on
setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't
want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your
first order) via E-mail.
He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he
will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still
makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance
rates are cheaper then.
He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a
2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could
join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you
call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the
same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am
not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is
the way to get started!
They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey)
!)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the
freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories
and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell.
They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he
sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.
Once you get in, you'll love them. I do.
Sincerely,
John Chen
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 03:15:07 +0100
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: Daniel Docekal
Subject: Re: FIDO konference
In-Reply-To: <5EDFF403A76@FELNET.FELD.CVUT.CZ>
In <5EDFF403A76@FELNET.FELD.CVUT.CZ>, on 04/07/96 at 09:54 PM,
"Martin Molhanec Ing. K313" said:
>>
>> Nehledejme ve vecech problemy jeste nez nastanou prosim.
>>
> Promin Danieli, ale nejde o hledani problemu predtim, nezli nastanou,
>mam pocit, ze jsi uz byl v republice, kdyz byla velka snaha ze strany
>fida ( resp. nekterych jeho clenu ), proti funkci FIGA, ktera dost
>dlouhou dobu nez odesel Kostal, fungovala docela dobre, cili tyto
>problemu tu jiz byly, a dost pochybuji o tom, ze kdyby GW zacal provozat
>nekdo jinej, ze by opet neobjevily.
Nejde? Vetsina lidi tady jenom dokola mluvi o tom ze nekde by mohl
vzniknout problem a nakonec to konci tak ze RADEJI nic nezacnou a zadna
brana nejede. FIGA fungovala docela dobre, o tom neni pochyb, ale jeji
provozovatele meli asi malo drzosti a odvahy tech par blbecku (pardon)
umlcet...... Skoda.....
Znova rikam ze zprovoznit GIGO je otazka asi tak peti minut, udelal bych
to uz davno, ale jednak mam jenom 28k8 link na internet a druhak nemam na
FIDO uz vubec cas. Posledni konferenci jsem cetl asi pred pul rokem.
Spolecenstvi pubertaku a namyslenych zamindrakovanych jedincu mi ponekud
nevyhovuje a nic noveho a kvalitniho neprinasi. Coz je taky skoda....
-----------------------------------------------------------
Daniel Docekal, anarchis@mbox.vol.cz, daniel@mail.codalan.cz,
codalan@login.cz, http://www.codalan.cz, ftp://ftp.codalan.cz Computer
Data a.s., everything i do i do with OS/2, Czech OS/2 User Group chairman,
hardware, software, internet, AskOS/2
-----------------------------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 08:47:23 +0100
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: Vladislav Cerny
Subject: Detekce PCMCIA
Neznate nekdo, prosim, apolehlivy zpusob, jak testovat pritomnost PCMCIA
(sitove) karty ve slotu? Ne jedne konkretni daneho vyrobce, ale jakekoliv.
Interrupt 1Ah sluzba 80h funguje spis vyjimecne - detekuje PCMCIA port jen
jsou-li instalovany SOCKET.SYS a CARDTALK.
---------------------------------------------------------
Vladislav Cerny
e-Mail: black@cdrail.cz CD s.o., CIT o.z.
Susicka 25
Tel. : +42 19 2122372 307 02 Plzen
Czech republic
---------------------------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:34:34 +0200
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: Petr Skoda
Subject: Re: Data switch
In-Reply-To:
Dobry den,
drive nez odpovi nekdo vice zbaly veci ( a vysvetli mne, ze je to uplne
jinak), zkusim rici svuj laicky nazor (prislusne normy o EPP/ECP jsem
necetl).
Podle me, je problem zrejme v tom, ze jeden pocitac ma paralelni port
nove generace tzn ECP/EPP a tento rezim je aktivovan v setupu. Prislusny
kabel (kabely ) je spravne propojen obousmerne, ale uvnitr switche to je
asi nejake popletene (ono se mimo jine na Centronicsu objevuje i napeti 5V
(na nekterych tiskarnach to byl pin 18) a je proto nezadouci propojovat
vsechny draty ve switchi z vystupu na vstup). Cele to bude asi jeste
slozitejsi ale zkusil bych se podivat na nechodicim pocitaci do setupu a
pokud bude rezim portu ECP/EPP, prepnul bych je na standart Centronics.
POkud to nepomuze, kontaktujte nejake odborniky (ve firmach) nebo zkuste
nabyt vyssiho stupne vedomi (jeste plnejsiho ) jogovymi meditacemi apod ;-)))
On Fri, 5 Apr 1996, Jiri Vesely wrote:
> Pocitac A tisknul bezvadne jak primo na tiskarnu, tak pres prepinac pri
> vsech moznych kombinacich privodnich kabelu a vstupu. Pocitac B tiskne
> primo na tiskarnu, ale pri zapojeni pres prepinac (opet vyzkouseny
> vsechny kombinace) tiskne blaboly - mezi pismena vlozi dalsi znaky,
> neodradkuje...
.. Ne dosti na tom, druhy den tisknul spravne a dalsi den
>
Tyhle zahady se mi taky casto stavaji, a vestsinou se ukaze, ze jsem
onoho osudneho dne udelal nevedomky nejakou zmenu (popr. vic), kterou
jsem pak opet vratil zpet, protoze jsem se domnival, ze to nemuze mit
vliv- popr nejsem pri plnem vedomi ;-)
Nemohl se treba nastavit default setup ?
opet stejny zmatek. Spatny kontakt (neboli studenak) vylucuji, nebot vzdy
> jsem zkousel i pocitac A a ten problemy nemel. Vzhledem k tomu, ze prepinac
> je normalni krabice s tremi konektory (2 x in, 1 x out), mechanickym n-polovym
> prepinacem a spoustou propojovacich dratu, toto chovani absolutne nechapu.
*************************** jsou opravdu vsechny
propojeny - promerte ?!
Jelikoz vam moje vyplody ducha asi nebudou moc platne, berte to, jako
prijemnou ranni konverzci pri kave ;-)))
*************************************************************************
* Petr Skoda Tel : (0204) 85201, l. 361 *
* Stelarni oddeleni (0204) 857361, 857136 *
* Astronomicky ustav AVCR Fax : (02) 881611 *
* 251 65 Ondrejov e-mail: skoda@sunstel.asu.cas.cz *
* Ceska republika aststel@csearn.bitnet *
*************************************************************************
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 07:49:29 MET-2DST
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: Petr Vodicka
Organization: VSZ Brno
Subject: TCPIP, Winsock a co jineho?
Vazeni,
nevite prosim Vas, zda neexistuje jina TCPIP podpora pro WIndows 3.1X,
nez pres Winsock.dll a tcpman.exe? (Pricemz mam na mysli share/freeware)
Dekuji
Petr Vodicka
vodicka@vszbr.cz
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 08:55:12 +0200
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ji=F8=ED_Kuchta?=
Organization: Technical University of Brno
Subject: Re: FIDO konference
Dne 5 Apr 96 v 12:32, napsal(a) Daniel Docekal:
> >V necem mas pravdu. Ja uz se nekolik mesicu snazim dopatrat, jak by se
> >CESNET tvaril, kdybych zalozil konferenci dostupnou z FIDO i z Internetu,
> >zatim to vypada, ze CESNET je neco jako >nul .....
>
> Jezisi smarja panenko maria skakava, CESNET prece NEVLASTNI INTERNET,
To ne, ale pripojuje mne na nasi vysoke skole.
----
|Ing. Jiri Kuchta (Jiri Kuchta) |
|Technical University of Brno |
|Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science |
|Department of Computer Science and Engineering |
|Bozetechova 2; CZ-61266 Brno |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
|tel: +42-5-7275-222 E-mail: kuchta@fee.vutbr.cz |
| +42-5-43167-322 |
|fax: +42-5-41211141 Fido: 2:421/13.7 |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:37:23 +0000
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: Zbysek Bahensky/Computerworld/Czech/IDG Net
Subject: Programy pro PC-XT a kartu Hercules
Pratele,
potreboval bych radu. Koupil jsem tatovi na vazne i mene vazne hrani s po=
citacem
XT-cko a potreboval bych ho vybavit nejakymi zakladnimi hrami, pripadne i=
=20
jinymi programy). Jde skutecne o cistokrevne XT a navic s grafickou kart=
ou=20
Hercules. Poradite mi, kde takove programy najdu? Na prazskych BBS neco j=
e, ale=20
telefon uz nen=A1 nejlacinejsi, na Internetu nemuzu najit vubec nic...
Nemate nekdo nejaky tip na takovy "old fashioned" ftp server?
Diky za kazdou radu (vyjma rady, abych mu koupil jiny pocitac, nejlepe Pe=
ntium)
Zbysek
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:03:26 +0200
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Comments: Authenticated sender is
From: Josef Chomyn
Organization: DCIT Praha
Subject: Re: Timezone! (a cas vubec)
> Ona se blbe meni TZ na NetWoru u ktereho porad nekdo sedi (musi se to
> restartovat).
>
> ----
> |Ing. Jiri Kuchta (Jiri Kuchta) |
Dobry den,
proc si myslite, ze se to na Netwaru meni hure ? A proc se to musi
restartovat ? My jsme menili cas a restartovat jsme server nepotrebovali.
S pozdravem
J.Ch.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Josef Chomyn (chomyn@dcit.cz) consultant @ DCIT s.r.o.
http://www.dcit.cz/personal/chomyn.html phone/fax: +42-2-316 4278
CDMS, J. Martiho 2/407, 160 41 Praha 6 - Veleslavin, Czech Republic
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:27:32 +0200
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ji=F8=ED_Kuchta?=
Organization: Technical University of Brno
Subject: Re: Timezone! (a cas vubec)
Dne 9 Apr 96 v 12:03, napsal(a) Josef Chomyn:
> > Ona se blbe meni TZ na NetWoru u ktereho porad nekdo sedi (musi se to
> > restartovat).
> >
> > ----
> > |Ing. Jiri Kuchta (Jiri Kuchta) |
>
> Dobry den,
>
> proc si myslite, ze se to na Netwaru meni hure ? A proc se to musi
> restartovat ? My jsme menili cas a restartovat jsme server nepotrebovali.
SET TIMEZONE se musi nastavit pred zavedenim CLIB.
Je fakt, ze to s Pegasem nema moc spolecneho, pro ten je potreba
pustit PCONFIG a opravit to v bindery (Mercury.ini je jen pro
Mercury).
>
> S pozdravem
> J.Ch.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Josef Chomyn (chomyn@dcit.cz) consultant @ DCIT s.r.o.
> http://www.dcit.cz/personal/chomyn.html phone/fax: +42-2-316 4278
> CDMS, J. Martiho 2/407, 160 41 Praha 6 - Veleslavin, Czech Republic
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
----
|Ing. Jiri Kuchta (Jiri Kuchta) |
|Technical University of Brno |
|Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science |
|Department of Computer Science and Engineering |
|Bozetechova 2; CZ-61266 Brno |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
|tel: +42-5-7275-222 E-mail: kuchta@fee.vutbr.cz |
| +42-5-43167-322 |
|fax: +42-5-41211141 Fido: 2:421/13.7 |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:35:31 MET
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: Jaroslav Polcer FCH VUT Brno
Subject: Re: Timezone! (a cas vubec)
> > Ona se blbe meni TZ na NetWoru u ktereho porad nekdo sedi (musi se to
> > restartovat).
> >
> > ----
> > |Ing. Jiri Kuchta (Jiri Kuchta) |
>
> Dobry den,
>
> proc si myslite, ze se to na Netwaru meni hure ? A proc se to musi
> restartovat ? My jsme menili cas a restartovat jsme server nepotrebovali.
>
> S pozdravem
> J.Ch.
Vazeni,
opet se bavime o case na Netware. Tenhle tema se vyskytuje pravidelne
dvakrat do roka. Moje zkusenost s modulem recvtime (DCF 77.5 kHz) je
velmi dobra. V rezimu :
load recvtime /s2f8 /i10 /d1 /e
(dulezite je /e) provedl s jednominutovym spozdenim korekci casu na
letni. Informace o letnim case je primo obsazena v kodu DCF a tak se
jiz od unora 1995 nestaram o cas. Proste bezi dobre.
Polcer
+-----------------------------+
| Ing. Jaroslav Polcer |
| Chemicka fakulta VUT v Brne |
| Veslarska 230 |
| 637 00 Brno |
| tlf 042-05-43321295 |
| fax 042-05-43211101 |
| E-mail polcer@fch.vutbr.cz |
+-----------------------------+
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:40:37 +0000
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From: Petr Kuba
Subject: Obchodni vestnik
Nevite nekdo jestli je na Internetu take obchodni vestnik (jako =
hospodarske noviny a pod.)
Diky Petr Kuba
pkuba@hdp.mail602.cz
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:02:52 +0200
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From: Dan Lukes
Organization: Obludarium
Subject: Re: Timezone! (a cas vubec)
Dne 9 Apr 96 v 12:35, Jaroslav Polcer FCH VUT Brno uvedl(a):
> > > Ona se blbe meni TZ na NetWoru u ktereho porad nekdo sedi (musi se to
> > > restartovat).
> Vazeni,
> opet se bavime o case na Netware. Tenhle tema se vyskytuje pravidelne
> dvakrat do roka. Moje zkusenost s modulem recvtime (DCF 77.5 kHz) je
> velmi dobra. V rezimu :
> load recvtime /s2f8 /i10 /d1 /e
> (dulezite je /e) provedl s jednominutovym spozdenim korekci casu na
> letni. Informace o letnim case je primo obsazena v kodu DCF a tak se
> jiz od unora 1995 nestaram o cas. Proste bezi dobre.
No, my jsme se v te chvili ani tak nebavili o case (ten si mohu,
lacineji, nebot zadarmo, serizovat po internetu proti nekteremu time-
-serveru, driv nez me nekdo napadne za pretezovani linek vezte, ze
za timeserver pouzivam stroj vzdaleny ode mne jeden router) ale
o casove zone. Umi recvtime vnutit bezicimu serveru (presneji receno
bezici CLIB) zmenu casove zony, nebo ji jinak primet k vedomi zmeny casu
na letni) ? Jeste jednou podotykam ze nejde o to vlastni posunuti o
hodinu.
S pozdravem,
Dan Lukes
Dan Lukes, Patkova 3/B1206, Praha 8, Czech Republic
tel +42-(2)-8551040 ext 776, E-Mail: LUKES(or Postmaster)@Menza.MFF.CUNI.CZ
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:07:11 METDST
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From: Petr Simek
Subject: Re: Timezone! (a cas vubec)
In-Reply-To: ; from "Jaroslav Polcer FCH VUT Brno" at
Apr 9, 96 12:35 (noon)
> Vazeni,
> opet se bavime o case na Netware. Tenhle tema se vyskytuje pravidelne
> dvakrat do roka. Moje zkusenost s modulem recvtime (DCF 77.5 kHz) je
> velmi dobra. V rezimu :
> load recvtime /s2f8 /i10 /d1 /e
> (dulezite je /e) provedl s jednominutovym spozdenim korekci casu na
> letni. Informace o letnim case je primo obsazena v kodu DCF a tak se
> jiz od unora 1995 nestaram o cas. Proste bezi dobre.
> Polcer
To muzete pomoci rdate.nlm udelat levneji (jste-li pripojen primo do inetu)
tady jde spis o to aby v hlavickach odesilanych mailu to bylo spravne
vyplnene.
> +-----------------------------+
> | Ing. Jaroslav Polcer |
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| Biologicka Fakulta Jihoceske Univerzity |
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:24:04 MET
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From: "Ing. Smetana Dusan"
Organization: University of Purkyne, Usti n/L, CR
Subject: Re: TCPIP, Winsock a co jineho?
> Vazeni,
> nevite prosim Vas, zda neexistuje jina TCPIP podpora pro WIndows 3.1X,
> nez pres Winsock.dll a tcpman.exe? (Pricemz mam na mysli share/freeware)
>
Existuje Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows 3.x, je to na FTP
Microsoftu a na vsech jeho mirrorech, myslim, ze nejaka
verze je i na Simtelu. Je to o neco mene user friendly nez
trumpetuv winpkt/tcpman (napr. neumi bootp a sledovani paketu),
ale funguje to na Microsoft docela spolehlive :- )).
Jinak: winsock.dll je obecna knihovna Windows, t.j. ma ji v sobe
i MS TCP/IP a vyuzivaji ji temer vsichni interneti klienti pro
Windows.
Obchodni strategie Microsoftu vzhledem ke snaze ziskat
trh Internetu je takova, ze vsechno, co nejak i vzdalene
souvisi s Internetem je k dispozici (zatim:-) jako freeware.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Information centre network administrator
Ceske mladeze 8
400 96 Usti nad Labem, Czech republic
tel. (+42 47) 5214417
tel./fax (+42 47) 5211008 e-mail: smetana@ujep.cz
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:54:27 +0200
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From: Eduard Vopicka
Subject: Re: Timezone! (a cas vubec)
In-Reply-To: Jaroslav Polcer FCH VUT Brno Re: Timezone!
(a cas vubec)
Lidi, nechte toho. Zmenu na letni cas uz jsme letos nejak prezili.
Nektery system se s ni hure ci lepe vyporadal sam, jiny musel byt
postcen silou sveho administratora.
Daleko vetsi narez to bude letos na podzim. Letni cas totiz bude koncit
o mesic pozdeji, s cimz ovsem nepocitaji stavajici zone file, TIMEZONE
a jak se ti certi v ruznych systemech jmenuji. Jsem zvedav, kteri vyrobci
OSu upravene popisy casove zony vcas dodaji a kolik lidi si je vcas
nainstaluje. Casto to asi bude bude takove klasicke ceske DO-DO. Lidi,
to vam bude naaaarez!!!
E.V.
--
"Eduard Vopicka, Computing Centre, Prague University of Economics,
W. Churchill Square 4, CZ 130 67 Prague 3"
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:41:23 +0200
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From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ji=F8=ED_Kuchta?=
Organization: Technical University of Brno
Subject: Re: Timezone! (a cas vubec)
Dne 9 Apr 96 v 13:07, napsal(a) Petr Simek:
> To muzete pomoci rdate.nlm udelat levneji (jste-li pripojen primo do inetu)
Ne tak docela, na NW 4.xx to jeste neumime, vy snad ano?
> tady jde spis o to aby v hlavickach odesilanych mailu to bylo spravne
> vyplnene.
Samozrejme, ale vsechno souvisi se vsim.
----
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|Technical University of Brno |
|Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science |
|Department of Computer Science and Engineering |
|Bozetechova 2; CZ-61266 Brno |
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:54:56 +0200
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From: Josef Chomyn
Organization: DCIT Praha
Subject: Re: TCPIP, Winsock a co jineho?
> > Vazeni,
> > nevite prosim Vas, zda neexistuje jina TCPIP podpora pro WIndows 3.1X,
> > nez pres Winsock.dll a tcpman.exe? (Pricemz mam na mysli share/freeware)
> >
>
> Existuje Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows 3.x, je to na FTP
> Microsoftu a na vsech jeho mirrorech, myslim, ze nejaka
> verze je i na Simtelu. Je to o neco mene user friendly nez
> trumpetuv winpkt/tcpman (napr. neumi bootp a sledovani paketu),
> ale funguje to na Microsoft docela spolehlive :- )).
Dobry den,
myslim, ze Microsoft TCP/IP je pouze pro Windows 3.11 for Workgroups.
Politika pouzivani rika, ze je volne k dispozici majitelum licence WfW.
Co se tyce jinych moznosti nez Trumpet a Microsoft, urcite existuji,
i kdyz ty dva vyse zminovane jsou asi nejcasteji pouzivane (ve sve
kategorii). Kdysi jsem si hral s Tropic Winsockem, coz byl shareware
a nasel jsem ho nekde na Simtelu. Zkuste treba mirror na
ftp://ftp.vse.cz/pub/simtel/win3/winsock/
Hezky den
J.Ch.
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http://www.dcit.cz/personal/chomyn.html phone/fax: +42-2-316 4278
CDMS, J. Martiho 2/407, 160 41 Praha 6 - Veleslavin, Czech Republic
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:08:03 +0100
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From: Vladislav Cerny
Subject: Detekce PCMCIA
Neznate nekdo, prosim, spolehlivy zpusob, jak testovat pritomnost PCMCIA
(sitove) karty ve slotu? Ne jedne konkretni daneho vyrobce, ale jakekoliv.
Interrupt 1Ah sluzba 80h funguje spis vyjimecne - detekuje PCMCIA port jen
jsou-li instalovany SOCKET.SYS a CARDTALK.
Dekuji
---------------------------------------------------------
Vladislav Cerny
e-Mail: black@cdrail.cz CD s.o., CIT o.z.
Susicka 25
Tel. : +42 19 2122372 307 02 Plzen
Czech republic
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:21:49 +0200
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From: Tomas Vild
Subject: Re: Obchodni vestnik
In-Reply-To: <2023A136208954B740@mail602.cz> from "Petr Kuba" at Apr 9,
96 11:40:37 am
>
> Nevite nekdo jestli je na Internetu take obchodni vestnik (jako =
>
> hospodarske noviny a pod.)
>
>
> Diky Petr Kuba
> pkuba@hdp.mail602.cz
>
jsou u nas na infox nebo na info nebo na isix.eunet.cz
zdravi tom
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 06:23:14 +0200
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From: Petr Matousek
Subject: Re: Timezone! (a cas vubec)
In-Reply-To: <199604091154.AA07871@vse.vse.cz>
On Tue, 9 Apr 1996, Eduard Vopicka wrote:
> Daleko vetsi narez to bude letos na podzim. Letni cas totiz bude koncit
> o mesic pozdeji, s cimz ovsem nepocitaji stavajici zone file, TIMEZONE
> a jak se ti certi v ruznych systemech jmenuji. Jsem zvedav, kteri vyrobci
> OSu upravene popisy casove zony vcas dodaji a kolik lidi si je vcas
> nainstaluje. Casto to asi bude bude takove klasicke ceske DO-DO. Lidi,
> to vam bude naaaarez!!!
W 95 s tim pocitaji, NT 3.51 myslim taky.
Zdravi
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 08:25:02 METDST
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From: Petr Simek
Subject: Re: Timezone! (a cas vubec)
In-Reply-To: <2FBE63C2555@des.fee.vutbr.cz>; from
"=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ji=F8=ED_Kuchta?=" at Apr 9, 96 1:41 pm
>
> Dne 9 Apr 96 v 13:07, napsal(a) Petr Simek:
>
> > To muzete pomoci rdate.nlm udelat levneji (jste-li pripojen primo do inetu)
>
> Ne tak docela, na NW 4.xx to jeste neumime, vy snad ano?
Ne, ale muzu si nastavit kdy se cas meni a o kolik takze pokud si nastavim
ze se na podzim meni cas zpet o mesic pozdeji nebudu mit potize ani na podzim.
> |Ing. Jiri Kuchta (Jiri Kuchta) |
> |Technical University of Brno |
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| Biologicka Fakulta Jihoceske Univerzity |
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 08:37:28 +0200
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From: Petr Schauer
Subject: *.rar
Zdravim vsechny priznivce tohoto listu.
Dostal se mi do rukou soubor *.rar a nevim si s nim rady. Pravdepodobne
je obsah zabalen nejakym komprimacnim programem, ktery neznam. Poradi mi
nekdo jakym? Kde mohu ziskat dekomprimacni software?
Petr Schauer
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 07:08:46 GMT
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From: Zdenek Salvet
Organization: Masaryk University,Brno
Subject: Re: Timezone! (a cas vubec)
Petr Matousek writes:
>On Tue, 9 Apr 1996, Eduard Vopicka wrote:
>> Daleko vetsi narez to bude letos na podzim. Letni cas totiz bude koncit
>> o mesic pozdeji, s cimz ovsem nepocitaji stavajici zone file, TIMEZONE
>> a jak se ti certi v ruznych systemech jmenuji. Jsem zvedav, kteri vyrobci
>> OSu upravene popisy casove zony vcas dodaji a kolik lidi si je vcas
>> nainstaluje. Casto to asi bude bude takove klasicke ceske DO-DO. Lidi,
>> to vam bude naaaarez!!!
>W 95 s tim pocitaji, NT 3.51 myslim taky.
Skutecne ? U nas Windows 95 nezvladly spravne ani zacatek letniho casu
(zmenily ho o tyden driv).
--
Zdenek Salvet salvet@ics.muni.cz
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 09:32:20 +0200
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From: Daniel Korbel
Organization: CoProSys a.s.
Subject: Re: Data switch
Zdravim
Nemam zkusenosti s podobnymi hrackami, ale nase firma prodava ( no fuj zase ta
ohavna reklama) skatulky kterym se rika tiskove servery AXIS.
Tydlety masinky Vam umozni sdilet tiskarny a CD - cka na siti mezi jednotlivymi
pocitaci
v jakemkoliv prostredi OS - UNIX, Windows, OS2, Apple, LAN Manager .... a mnoho
dalsich.
Proste jen xapojite a tisknete v pohode z jakehokoliv portu a nemusite se
otravovat s nejakym Data switchem
Pro blizsi informace zkuste
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 09:40:39 +0200
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From: Petr Snajdr
Organization: PVT
Subject: Re: Detekce PCMCIA
Vladislav Cerny wrote:
>
> Neznate nekdo, prosim, apolehlivy zpusob, jak testovat pritomnost PCMCIA
> (sitove) karty ve slotu? Ne jedne konkretni daneho vyrobce, ale jakekoliv.
> Interrupt 1Ah sluzba 80h funguje spis vyjimecne - detekuje PCMCIA port jen
> jsou-li instalovany SOCKET.SYS a CARDTALK.
Mozna,ze by Vam pomohlo nahlednout do zdrojaku Linuxu k modulu
PCMCIA ( doufam,ze jsou dostupne..ten module je urcite ;-))))
--
S pozdravem
Petr Snajdr
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Petr Snajdr,snajdr@pvt.net,tel. 42 05/72 69 304
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 10:12:01 +0200
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From: Petr Matousek
Subject: Re: *.rar
In-Reply-To: <199604100637.AA03253@indigo.isibrno.cz>
On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, Petr Schauer wrote:
> Dostal se mi do rukou soubor *.rar a nevim si s nim rady. Pravdepodobne
> je obsah zabalen nejakym komprimacnim programem, ktery neznam. Poradi mi
> nekdo jakym? Kde mohu ziskat dekomprimacni software?
Napriklad:
ftp://ftp.vse.cz//pub/msdos/simtel-msdos/archiver/rar155.exe
ftp://ftp.vslib.cz/pub/msdos/archivers/rar/rar155.exe
ftp://ftp.zcu.cz/pub/msdos/archivers/rar/rar155.exe
ftp://ftp.zlin.vutbr.cz/pub/msdos/archivers/rar155.exe
a tak dale.
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 10:31:28 +0200
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From: Petr Matousek
Subject: Re: Timezone! (a cas vubec)
In-Reply-To:
On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, Zdenek Salvet wrote:
> >> Daleko vetsi narez to bude letos na podzim. Letni cas totiz bude koncit
> >> o mesic pozdeji, s cimz ovsem nepocitaji stavajici zone file, TIMEZONE
> >> a jak se ti certi v ruznych systemech jmenuji. Jsem zvedav, kteri vyrobci
> >> OSu upravene popisy casove zony vcas dodaji a kolik lidi si je vcas
> >> nainstaluje. Casto to asi bude bude takove klasicke ceske DO-DO. Lidi,
> >> to vam bude naaaarez!!!
>
> >W 95 s tim pocitaji, NT 3.51 myslim taky.
>
> Skutecne ? U nas Windows 95 nezvladly spravne ani zacatek letniho casu
> (zmenily ho o tyden driv).
Kterou verzi pouzivate a jak mate nastavenou timezone? Ve verzi CZ a
nastaveni na zonu Praha, Bratislava je to O.K.
O tyden driv se nam o to snazila stara verze Ultrixu (4.3). Jinak vsechno,
co mame, O.K.
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 09:36:36 +0200
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From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ji=F8=ED_Kuchta?=
Organization: Technical University of Brno
Subject: Re: *.rar
Dne 10 Apr 96 v 8:37, napsal(a) Petr Schauer:
>
> Dostal se mi do rukou soubor *.rar a nevim si s nim rady. Pravdepodobne
> je obsah zabalen nejakym komprimacnim programem, ktery neznam. Poradi mi
> nekdo jakym? Kde mohu ziskat dekomprimacni software?
Jak uz pripona napovida, jde o program RAR. Jde o velmi dobry,
uspesny a rozsireny program ruske provenience. Ovlada se velmi
podobne (pro laika: stejne) jako ARJ. Ziskat jej muzete na prakticky
libovolne BBS nebo na kazdem zrcadle Simtelu (adresar
Simtel/msdos/archiver/rar155.*, ale je uz venku i novejsi)
>
> Petr Schauer
>
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 10:52:50 +0200
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From: DUSAN BOLEK
Subject: Re: *.rar
In article <199604100637.AA03253@indigo.isibrno.cz> you wrote:
: Zdravim vsechny priznivce tohoto listu.
: Dostal se mi do rukou soubor *.rar a nevim si s nim rady. Pravdepodobne
: je obsah zabalen nejakym komprimacnim programem, ktery neznam. Poradi mi
: nekdo jakym? Kde mohu ziskat dekomprimacni software?
: Petr Schauer
Je zpakovan komprimacnim programem RAR, ten lze najit napr. na
ftp.infima.cz. Je treba si vsak uvedomit ze RAR 2.00 neni kompatibilni s
predchozi verzi (predchozi verze nerozpakuji novy format).
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 10:58:05 +0200
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From: DUSAN BOLEK
Subject: Re: Programy pro PC-XT a kartu Hercules
In article <9604090731.AA4062@worldcom-18.worldcom.com> you wrote:
: Pratele,
: potreboval bych radu. Koupil jsem tatovi na vazne i mene vazne hrani s po=
: citacem
: XT-cko a potreboval bych ho vybavit nejakymi zakladnimi hrami, pripadne i=
: =20
: jinymi programy). Jde skutecne o cistokrevne XT a navic s grafickou kart=
: ou=20
: Hercules. Poradite mi, kde takove programy najdu? Na prazskych BBS neco j=
: e, ale=20
: telefon uz nen=A1 nejlacinejsi, na Internetu nemuzu najit vubec nic...
: Nemate nekdo nejaky tip na takovy "old fashioned" ftp server?
: Diky za kazdou radu (vyjma rady, abych mu koupil jiny pocitac, nejlepe Pe=
: ntium)
: Zbysek
Zkuste ftp.museum.cz :-), ne vazne na ftp.sunet.se meli v adresari pub/games
spoustu starych shitu. Bohuzel i ty obvykle vyzaduji alespon EGA, ale neco
snad najdete. Mozna by nebylo od veci ten pocitac upgradovat. Na 286, VGA to
vyjde levne (asi uplne zadarmo), a moznosti jsou vetsi.
P.S.: Prince of Persia jde parit na vasi konfiguraci, neni to shareware, ale
ma ho tolik lidi, ze ho asi sezenete.
--
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* Bolek Dusan * The providence is always on the side *
* * *
* Prague, Czech Republic * of the big batalions *
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:18:25 +0200
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From: Petr Schauer
Subject: Re: *.rar
Dekuji vsem, kteri mi odpovedeli (jak do listu tak primo na mou adresu)
na muj dotaz ohledne *.rar. Uz mam uspesne rozbaleno. Je to skutecne ne-
cekane dobry komprimator/dekomprimator a vlastne se stydim, ze jsem o nem
nevedel. Jenom me prekvapilo, ze kdyz jsem (posilen Vasimi informacemi)
hledal v internetu, tak jsem pro MS DOS nasel jen starsi verze (1.55) i
kdyz uz existuji i verze 2.x. Prestal to snad byt shareware?
Petr Schauer
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:09:04 +0200
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From: Eduard Vopicka
Subject: Re: *.rar
In-Reply-To: Petr Schauer Re: *.rar
On Apr 10, 12:18pm, Petr Schauer wrote:
} Subject: Re: *.rar
} Je to skutecne ne-
} cekane dobry komprimator/dekomprimator a vlastne se stydim, ze jsem o nem
} nevedel.
Tohle rad ctu. Ja uz jsem se chtel rozcilit, jak je to mozne, ze nekdo nezna
nejlepsi kompresni program na svete. :-) & Flame ON
} Jenom me prekvapilo, ze kdyz jsem (posilen Vasimi informacemi)
} hledal v internetu, tak jsem pro MS DOS nasel jen starsi verze (1.55) i
} kdyz uz existuji i verze 2.x. Prestal to snad byt shareware?
Podle meho nazoru je 2.x stale jen ve stadiu beta. Nevim, kde vsude jste
hledal, ale nejspis jste nehledal na oblibenem mirroru SAC
ftp://pub.vse.cz/pub/msdos/SAC/pc/pack/rar2*.
A verte tomu nebo nebo ne, RAR 2.x-BETA je tam i pro ruzne *NIXy.
Eduard Vopicka
--
"Eduard Vopicka, Computing Centre, Prague University of Economics,
W. Churchill Square 4, CZ 130 67 Prague 3"
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:19:14 +0200
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From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ji=F8=ED_Kuchta?=
Organization: Technical University of Brno
Subject: Re: *.rar
Dne 10 Apr 96 v 12:18, napsal(a) Petr Schauer:
> nevedel. Jenom me prekvapilo, ze kdyz jsem (posilen Vasimi informacemi)
> hledal v internetu, tak jsem pro MS DOS nasel jen starsi verze (1.55) i
> kdyz uz existuji i verze 2.x. Prestal to snad byt shareware?
To asi ne, ale asi to souvisi s organizacnimi zmenami archivu Simtel,
je to tam ted trochu neprehledne. Mam dojem, ze ted budou "Simtely"
dva a budou se navzajem hadat. Neco by se dalo pochopit z dopisu
Keith Petersen, ktery chodil minuly tyden a jeste jsem ho nemel cas
cely prelouskat. Pokud by byl zajem, tak bych ho sem forwardnul.
>
> Petr Schauer
>
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:35:18 CET
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From: Milos Rysavy
Subject: Re: *.rar
>
> Je zapakovan komprimacnim programem RAR, ten lze najit napr. na
> ftp.infima.cz.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Prosim pekne, jak se tam da dostat? Odmita mi to anonymous login.
(Presneji receno chce to password a s e-mailovou adresou se nespokoji.)
S pozdravem
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:44:17 +0000
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Comments: Authenticated sender is
From: "Michal Toth, kl.137"
Subject: Talk pre windows
Hi,
Neviete mi, prosim, poradit, ci existuje nejaky program pod windows
kompatibilny s prikazom TALK v unixe? Nemam na mysli ziadny
IRC klient, ale program, ktory sa spoji s inym pocitacom na Internete
bez pomoci IRC servera tak aby zvladol kompatibilitu s prikazom TALK.
Dakujem
Michal Toth
vudsvi@za.sanet.sk
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:59:58 CET
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From: Milos Rysavy
Subject: Re: *.rar
>
>Podle meho nazoru je 2.x stale jen ve stadiu beta. Nevim, kde vsude jste
>hledal, ale nejspis jste nehledal na oblibenem mirroru SAC
> ftp://pub.vse.cz/pub/msdos/SAC/pc/pack/rar2*.
>A verte tomu nebo nebo ne, RAR 2.x-BETA je tam i pro ruzne *NIXy.
>
parker nabizi
ftp://ftp.ruk.cuni.cz/pub/upload/portfolio/rar200b.exe
opravdu tam je, pred chvili jsem si ho stahnul.
s pozdravem
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| Nucl. Phys. Institute :-( (+42 2) 66172652 :-) / |/ |/ | |
| 250 68 Rez near Prague :*) fax: (+42 2) 6857003 ;-( | | | |
| Czech Republic :-( email: rysavy@ujf.cas.cz :-) | | |_/. |
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:11:56 +0200
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From: Petr Matousek
Subject: Re: *.rar
In-Reply-To: <31289321A3F@des.fee.vutbr.cz>
On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, Ji=F8=ED Kuchta wrote:
> > nevedel. Jenom me prekvapilo, ze kdyz jsem (posilen Vasimi informacemi)
> > hledal v internetu, tak jsem pro MS DOS nasel jen starsi verze (1.55) i
> > kdyz uz existuji i verze 2.x. Prestal to snad byt shareware?
Nasel jsem verzi 2.00 beta 2 a kricela na mne, ze je pro OS/2, i kdyz byla
v adresari pro DOS...
Zdravi
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:03:44 +0200
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From: Juraj Panko
Subject: Re: Talk pre windows
In-Reply-To: <199604101344.AA23865@bull.utc.sk> from "Michal Toth,
kl.137" at Apr 10, 96 01:44:17 pm
Dobry den !
According to Michal Toth, kl.137.
> Neviete mi, prosim, poradit, ci existuje nejaky program pod windows
> kompatibilny s prikazom TALK v unixe? Nemam na mysli ziadny
> IRC klient, ale program, ktory sa spoji s inym pocitacom na Internete
> bez pomoci IRC servera tak aby zvladol kompatibilitu s prikazom TALK.
URL:
ftp://ftp.tuke.sk/pub/dos/net/tcp-ip/windows/winsock.app/wtalk124.zip
Pozor, nechodi s talkom na ESIX.
Na starsich SunOS 4.1.2 sa hlasi ako ntalk
> Dakujem
> Michal Toth
> vudsvi@za.sanet.sk
Su aj lepsie, ale ja pouzivam tento :-)
--
*******************
Juraj Panko
panko@ccsun.tuke.sk
*******************
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:56:14 GMT+01DST
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From: David Macek
Organization: University of Economics, Prague, CZ
Subject: Re: *.rar
> Zdravim vsechny priznivce tohoto listu.
Ja taktez zdravim.
>
> Dostal se mi do rukou soubor *.rar a nevim si s nim rady. Pravdepodobne
> je obsah zabalen nejakym komprimacnim programem, ktery neznam. Poradi mi
> nekdo jakym? Kde mohu ziskat dekomprimacni software?
RAR je komprimacni program, jehoz vysledky jsou lepsi nez u PKZIPu
(ale je zas trochu pomalejsi). Da se sehnat nekde na GOPHERu. Tusim,
ze ho mam od nas, t.j. gopher.vse.cz (berte s rezervou).
Hezky den preje
David Macek
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:27:51 +0200
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From: Jan Stambera
Subject: prosba
Mam problem: vlastnim MB na kterem se lze docist snad jen "MI486VESA-II"
a REV 4.1 of firmy MI. Nevite nekdo nahodou, kde by se dal sehnat manual,
abych ji mohl naswitchovat. Bez toho mi asi neni k nicemu.
Diky za kazdou radu.
Piste prosim primo na adresu armon@fi.muni.cz, nejsem prihlasen
do teto konference, dekuji.
--
Don't study, be Stambi Honza
______________________________________________________________________________
Jan Stambera, LDS 13 Obora, Brno 635 00, tel. 793253, E-mail: armon@fi.muni.cz
homepage: http://www.fi.muni.cz/~armon
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:56:22 MET
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From: Rostislav Kocman
Organization: Studovna SKM VUT Brno
Subject: Re: Microsoft security
Nejsem odbornik na bezpecnost NetOS a proto se nemuzu kvalifikovane
diskutovat o certifikatech B2,C2 atd. Ale mam pocit, ze tu nejde o
blaho dat, ale ze nekdo si potrebuje zanadavat na Microsoft a pokud
mozno jej rozcupovat na kousky. Prispevky p. Snajdra totiz vyznivaji
ponekud jednostrane. Chapu, ze diky komercnimu uspechu programu Ms
nekteri lide travi ctvrt hodiny po zapnuti pocitace posilanim
nekterych obyvatel Redmondu nekam jinam, ale vetsinou zustane jen u
slov. Co kdyby se tito lide dali dohromady, a zkusili problemy nejak
resit? Mimochodem, i vyvojovy team WinNT ma jiste svuj email, kam se
posilaji pripominky. Snad se tim budou zabyvat.
Rostislav Kocman
kocman@st.skm.vutbr.cz
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 16:02:29 MET
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From: Rostislav Kocman
Organization: Studovna SKM VUT Brno
Subject: Predpoved pocasi
Zdravim vsechny,
Nevite nekdo, jestli se da na Inetu sehnat predpoved pocasi pro CR.
Nemam na mysli predpoved na jeden den, to si prectu v novinach,
zajimaji me dlouhodobejsi predpovedi. A hlavne mi neposilejte adresy
ftp archivu se snimky z druzic, z tech nic nepoznam.
Dekuji
Rostislav Kocman
kocman@st.skm.vutbr.cz
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:42:03 +0100
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From: MARTIN HRUBY
Organization: Technical University Zlin
Subject: Re: Microsoft security
> mozno jej rozcupovat na kousky. Prispevky p. Snajdra totiz vyznivaji
> ponekud jednostrane. Chapu, ze diky komercnimu uspechu programu Ms
> nekteri lide travi ctvrt hodiny po zapnuti pocitace posilanim
> nekterych obyvatel Redmondu nekam jinam, ale vetsinou zustane jen u
> slov. Co kdyby se tito lide dali dohromady, a zkusili problemy nejak
> resit? Mimochodem, i vyvojovy team WinNT ma jiste svuj email, kam se
> posilaji pripominky. Snad se tim budou zabyvat.
>
> Rostislav Kocman
> kocman@st.skm.vutbr.cz
>
Prece nechcete, aby se zakaznici davali dohromady a resili spolu
problemy MS. Je samozrejme, ze diky znacnemu rozsireni Win systemu se
najde i dost lidi, kteri v nich budou hledat chyby. To ale prece neni
zadna omluva.
Martin Hruby
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:48:09 +0200
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From: Petr Snajdr
Subject: Re: Microsoft security
In-Reply-To: <927EDB085B@st.skm.vutbr.cz>
On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, Rostislav Kocman wrote:
> Nejsem odbornik na bezpecnost NetOS a proto se nemuzu kvalifikovane
> diskutovat o certifikatech B2,C2 atd. Ale mam pocit, ze tu nejde o
dane URL nebyl jen pocit ;-))))) a mam obavu,ze popisovne veci tam taky
nejsou jen pocit autora
viz. (
http://www.c2.org/hackmsoft/
http://www.somar.com/security.htm
)
[...]
> ponekud jednostrane. Chapu, ze diky komercnimu uspechu programu Ms
> nekteri lide travi ctvrt hodiny po zapnuti pocitace posilanim
> nekterych obyvatel Redmondu nekam jinam, ale vetsinou zustane jen u
Diky komercnim uspechum Microsoftu ??? Ja bych rek,ze mozna diky
kvalite,ale diky komercnim uspechum je tato "kvalita" temer vsude a tak
asi mate pravdu :-(
> slov. Co kdyby se tito lide dali dohromady, a zkusili problemy nejak
> resit? Mimochodem, i vyvojovy team WinNT ma jiste svuj email, kam se
> posilaji pripominky. Snad se tim budou zabyvat.
To mi prislo k smichu .Proc by lide,kteri nejsou soucasti M$ nahrazovat
chyby ktere tam, nekdo udelal ?Ono taky vecina nich ma co na praci a
ne prepisovat cely OS znovu metodou debuger>compiler>debuger.... ;-)))
A k tomu teamu NT..no mozna,ze ji maji.ale treba to s NTFS neni
chyba,ale vlastnost..co by jim clovek mel napsat ? Pouzivejte RSA ? ;-)))
nevim na ktere konferenci kdosi psal jak zavolal na MS HotLine (tu
americkou ne nasi)...rek,ze nasel chybu v kteremsi produktu Ms (Excel?)
a ze ji muze predvest kdekoli na jakekoli platforme,HW nebo instalaci a
tedy jde urcite o chybu programu a ti kdyz se jim po nejakem case nepodarilo
udelat z nej blbce ..zavesili ;-)
>
> Rostislav Kocman
> kocman@st.skm.vutbr.cz
>
s pozdravem
Petr Snajdr
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:47:24 +0200
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From: Dan Lukes
Organization: Obludarium
Subject: Re: Autorske a trestni pravo (was: HotDog - HTML Editor)
UPOZORNENI tento dopis je dlouhy a obsahuje citace zakonu. Pokud vas tato
debata nezajima, smazte jej ...
Dne 10 Apr 96 v 10:48, Jan Vanek CZU Praha uvedl(a):
> > "Na poruseni autorskeho zakona ohlasovaci povinost neni."
> > Citace z prednasky Microsoftu o autorskych pravech v Plzni 9.4.96
> > v ramci Microsoft week.
>
> Prominte, ze obtezuji ;-) , necituji nikoho, ale podle meho
> ubohouckeho nazoru se ohlasovaci povinnost vztahuje na jakekoli
> poruseni zakonnych predpisu [bez ohledu na predchozi diskusi].
> Mimochodem, docela by me zajimal nazor odbornika - pravnika. Je tu
> nekdo? S pozdravem
Odbornik - pravnik nejsem, jen jsem se pravem velmi omezene zabyval,
takze mohu p[oslouzit jen nekolika citacemi s prislusnych zakonu ...
Mimochodem, nejsem si jist, zda je tato konference vhodnym mistem pro
tuto diskusi. Jen nevim, kam se s ni presunout. Nejake tipy ?
Take je zcela nespravne, z nize uvedeneho nazoru, ze se nejedna o trestni
cin dovodit, ze tento cin schvaluji (jak po moralni strance tak ve smyslu
trestniho zakona).
A nyni jiz citace dole doplnene mymi postrehy ...
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Trestni zakon (140/1961 sb v soucasnem zneni) par 10:
1) Ucastnikem na dokonanem trestnem cinu nebo jeho pokusu je, kdo
umyslne:
...
c) poskytl jinemu pomoc k spachani trestneho cinu, zejmena
opatrenim prostredku, odstranenim prekazek, radou,
utvrzovanim v predsevzeti, slibem prispet po trestnem cinu
(pomocnik).
2) Na trestni odpovednost a trestnost ucastnika se uzije
ustanoveni o trestni odpovednosti a trestnosti pachatele,
jestlize tento zakon nestanovi neco jineho.
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Toto se zda byti ukazovat, ze samotne vytvoreni a rozsireni crack-
programu jeste neni trestnym cinem. Tim se to stane az po te, co ho nekdo
k trestnemu cinu pouzije.
Navic je tam jeste stanovena umyslnost, tedy pokud program je urcen k
necemu jinemu a pachatel ho jen zneuzije (pripad prakticky vsech
debugeru) neni skutkova podstata tohoto paragrafu naplnena.
*******************************************************************
Ve stejnem zakone se pak v par. 168 pravi o Neoznameni trestneho cinu
(1) Kdo se hodnovernym zpusobem dovi, ze jiny spachal trestny
cin vlastizrady (par. 91), rozvraceni republiky (par. 92), teroru (par. 93
a93a), zaskodnictvi (par. 95 a 96), sabotaze (par. 97), vyzvedacstvi
(par. 105), ohrozeni statniho tajemstvi (par. 106 a 107), porusovani
predpisu o nakladani s kontrolovanym zbozim a technologiemi
(par. 124a,124b,124c), porusovani predpisu o zahranicnim obchodu
s vojenskym materialem (par. 124d, 124e, 124f), padelani
a pozmenovani penez (par. 140), ucasti na zlocinnem spolceni (par. 163a
odst. 1), obecneho ohrozeni podle par. 179, ohrozeni
bezpecnosti vzdusneho dopravniho prostredku a
civilniho plavidla podle par. 180a, zavleceni vzdusneho
dopravniho prostredku do ciziny podle par. 180c odst. 2, tyrani
sverene osoby (par. 215), vrazdy (par. 219), genocidia (par. 259) nebo
pouzivani zakazaneho bojoveho prostredku a nedovoleneho vedeni
boje (par. 262), a takovy trestny cin neoznami bez odkladu
statnimu zastupci nebo policejnimu organu nebo misto toho, jde-li
o vojaka, veliteli nebo nacelniku, bude potrestan odnetim svobody
az na tri leta; stanovi-li tento zakon na nektery z techto
trestnych cinu trest mirnejsi, bude potrestan onim trestem
mirnejsim.
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Na poruseni autorskeho zakona se tedy ohlasovaci povinnost (mluvim o
trestni, nikoli moralni) nevztahuje ...
******************************************************************
A jeste jedna poznamka - ne kazda uprava programu je porusenim autorskeho
zakona - a to i tehdy, pokud je to v licencnim ujednani vyslovne uvedeno
(viz Autorsky zakon = 35/1965sb. s novelami az do 237/1995, par. 15 odst.
4). Tu zde vsak zamerne necituji, nebot nemam k dispozici posledni novelu
a nevim, jestli tam uz to neni jinak ...
Jinak pochopitelne neni sporu, ze sireni crack-programu touto konferenci
je nevhodne.
S pozdravem
Dan Lukes
Dan Lukes, Patkova 3/B1206, Praha 8, Czech Republic
tel +42-(2)-8551040 ext 776, E-Mail: LUKES(or Postmaster)@Menza.MFF.CUNI.CZ
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:00:59 +0200
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From: Juraj Panko
Subject: Re: Diakritika este raz
In-Reply-To: <199603051124.AA00405@decsys.lf3.cuni.cz> from "Matej Cepl" at
Mar 5, 96 11:24:33 am
Dobry den !
According to Matej Cepl.
> Mohu poskytnout, podle meho soudu vytecny, freewarovy program od
> meho kamarada, jmenem DIA.EXE, ktery umi prevadet mezi vsemi me
> znamymi kody cestiny (umi i KOI-8-CS, ale pouziva tuto obludnost
> nekdo?). Je velice rychly (kriticke casti jsou v assembleru) a
> vubec. Je to betaverze a ten muj kamarad by velice rad uvital
> jakekoli pripominky (do konce brezna na moji adresu).
nasile som skusil som a: pripomienka:
ISO Latin 2 (nie PC Latin 2 - bolo by mozne ?
> Matej Cepl
--
*******************
Juraj Panko
panko@ccsun.tuke.sk
*******************
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 10:21:36 EDT
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From: Stanislav Koci
Subject: Re: Autorske a trestni pravo (was: HotDog - HTML Editor)
On Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:47:24 +0200 you wrote:
>UPOZORNENI tento dopis je dlouhy a obsahuje citace zakonu. Pokud vas tato
>debata nezajima, smazte jej ...
Trochu jsem to zkratil...
>A jeste jedna poznamka - ne kazda uprava programu je porusenim autorskeho
>zakona - a to i tehdy, pokud je to v licencnim ujednani vyslovne uvedeno
>(viz Autorsky zakon = 35/1965sb. s novelami az do 237/1995, par. 15 odst.
>4). Tu zde vsak zamerne necituji, nebot nemam k dispozici posledni novelu
>a nevim, jestli tam uz to neni jinak ...
Jeste prileji oleje do ohne - tusim ze bylo v autorskem zakonu
povoleno upravit program pro vlastni potrebu. Nevim, zda to tam ale
zustalo.
Bye
Stan /\
Stanislav Koci e-mail: bilbo@hobit.anet.cz
HOBIT s.r.o. http://www.hobit.cz
Nad Primaskou 35 tel.: +42-2-7821300
100 00 Praha 10 fax: +42-2-7821968
Czech Republic fido: 2:420/55
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:04:44 +0200
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From: Mila
Subject: Re: Talk pre windows
Michal Toth, kl.137 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Neviete mi, prosim, poradit, ci existuje nejaky program
pod windows
> kompatibilny s prikazom TALK v unixe? Nemam na mysli
ziadny
> IRC klient, ale program, ktory sa spoji s inym pocitacom
na Internete
> bez pomoci IRC servera tak aby zvladol kompatibilitu s
prikazom TALK.
>
> Dakujem
>
> Michal Toth
> vudsvi@za.sanet.sk
Ja pouzivam WinTalk od ELF Communications, Inc.
Spojeni s UNIXovymi pocitaci je bezproblemove.
Pokud jej spustite, muzetete byt i zavolani primo
na Vase PC. Mila
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:31:13 +0100
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From: "Richard Sputa, mail account"
Organization: VSB-TU Ostrava
Subject: Dotaz
Jak je to s NoseyParker-em a FTPmail-em zmenila se adresa nebo se
uplne zrusily?
Adresy na ktere posilam dopisy:
PARKER@OBELIX.VSLIB.CZ
FTPMAIL@OBELIX.VSLIB.CZ
---------------------------
! Richard.Sputa@vsb.cz !
---------------------------
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:29:38 +0200
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From: DUSAN BOLEK
Subject: Re: *.rar
: Prosim pekne, jak se tam da dostat? Odmita mi to anonymous login.
: (Presneji receno chce to password a s e-mailovou adresou se nespokoji.)
: S pozdravem
:
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
: | Milos Rysavy ;-) voice: (+42 2) 66173170 ;-( _ _ _
|
: | Nucl. Phys. Institute :-( (+42 2) 66172652 :-) / |/ |/ |
|
: | 250 68 Rez near Prague :*) fax: (+42 2) 6857003 ;-( | | |
|
: | Czech Republic :-( email: rysavy@ujf.cas.cz :-) | | |_/.
|
:
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Ftp.infima.cz ma prihlasovani naprosto pitome, musite napsat jako password:
rysavy@ujf.cas.cz (nestaci obvykle rysavy@). Mimochodem nevim jak vy, ale ja
mam uz finalni verzi RARu.
--
*************************************************************************
* Bolek Dusan * The providence is always on the side *
* * *
* Prague, Czech Republic * of the big batalions *
*************************************************************************
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: 2.6.3i
mQCNAzErz08AAAEEAOL/PhdFs3Bfk1fDQt4Lb+XPTNB1DkME2qg1m6nvo/UCPA8G
R26iidJLq1mVRNiBsFj0HIQbxA1BcYhSPmCAgof0JEGwLJCZzQA+vAlFAgar/5uI
4NGmkasC2rxQuI19vYBb4NOpam749Z2gUffR2mufm23Rqmy7VIqNqB5KMqypAAUR
tB1EdXNhbiBCb2xlayA8Ym9sZWtkQHZzY2h0LmN6PokAlQMFEDErz0+KjageSjKs
qQEBxYcD/2nqMO4HaEz36BIigSZCj0GS4SPgkQFfNxf1OIi499hRe8uJ62VoXY8g
f4vRpWyK9813daDNt3+mg/g188uSjbQKMyOTv595u7LAynqqdwbsFXdrb6YI9dR4
K7+MbxoRDeOdguw35zpcIrzMHunwpWb0sbAjdKT/KMyX7EyFQscI
=ukWx
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:21:27 +0100
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From: "Richard Sputa, mail account"
Organization: VSB-TU Ostrava
Subject: ?!
Ze jsem tak blby co znamena tohle a jak se to da vyuzit?
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: 2.6.3i
mQCNAzErz08AAAEEAOL/PhdFs3Bfk1fDQt4Lb+XPTNB1DkME2qg1m6nvo/UCPA8G
R26iidJLq1mVRNiBsFj0HIQbxA1BcYhSPmCAgof0JEGwLJCZzQA+vAlFAgar/5uI
4NGmkasC2rxQuI19vYBb4NOpam749Z2gUffR2mufm23Rqmy7VIqNqB5KMqypAAUR
tB1EdXNhbiBCb2xlayA8Ym9sZWtkQHZzY2h0LmN6PokAlQMFEDErz0+KjageSjKs
qQEBxYcD/2nqMO4HaEz36BIigSZCj0GS4SPgkQFfNxf1OIi499hRe8uJ62VoXY8g
f4vRpWyK9813daDNt3+mg/g188uSjbQKMyOTv595u7LAynqqdwbsFXdrb6YI9dR4
K7+MbxoRDeOdguw35zpcIrzMHunwpWb0sbAjdKT/KMyX7EyFQscI
=ukWx
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Dekuji za jakoukoli vysvetlujici odpoved.
---------------------------
! Richard.Sputa@vsb.cz !
---------------------------
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:41:38 CET
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From: Milos Rysavy
Subject: Re: *.rar
>
>Ftp.infima.cz ma prihlasovani naprosto pitome, musite napsat jako password:
>rysavy@ujf.cas.cz (nestaci obvykle rysavy@). Mimochodem nevim jak vy, ale ja
>-------------------
To jsem samozrejme zkousel jako prvni, ale ani tak me to nevzalo na
milost. Ale cert to vem, nasel jsem
ftp://ftp.ruk.cuni.cz:/pub/upload/portfolio/rar200b.exe
Podle toho 'b' to je zrejme beta. Ale chodi velice dobre, komunikace na
zpusob Norton Commandera je moc fajn.
Na ftp://rhino.cis.vutbr.cz:/incoming/winrar20.rar
je verze pro wokna. Tu jsem bohuzel nevyzkousel, protoze az po
rozbaleni jsem zjistil, ze je 32bitova :-(
S pozdravem
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Milos Rysavy ;-) voice: (+42 2) 66173170 ;-( _ _ _ |
| Nucl. Phys. Institute :-( (+42 2) 66172652 :-) / |/ |/ | |
| 250 68 Rez near Prague :*) fax: (+42 2) 6857003 ;-( | | | |
| Czech Republic :-( email: rysavy@ujf.cas.cz :-) | | |_/. |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:36:03 +0200
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From: Dan Lukes
Organization: Obludarium
Subject: Re: ?! (co je to PGP public-key block)
Zprava osvetluje co je to PGP a kde o nem a RSA ziskat dalsi informace.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dne 11 Apr 96 v 14:21, Richard Sputa, mail account uvedl(a):
> Ze jsem tak blby co znamena tohle a jak se to da vyuzit?
> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
> Version: 2.6.3i
>
...
> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Toto je (jak ostatne anglicky psano) PGP-verejny klic. Je dobry k
tomu, abu jste mohl desifrovat zpravy zasifrovane tajnym PGP klicem
stejne osoby, nebo aby jste mohl sifrovat zpravu, kterou pak muze
desifrovat pouze tato osoba.
Vami zaslany klic obsahuje 1024 bitu dlouhy verejny klic Dusana Bolka
, ktery jej vygeneroval 22 unora 96 a sam (svym
elektronickym podpisem) overil jeho platnost (nelze jej tedy jeste brat
za dostatecne overeny).
Verse 2.6.3i PGP je ne zcela regulerni versi nebot (pokud mam
spolehlive informace) pochazi od jinych autoru nez by PGP melo (vyuzili
toho, ze zdrojaky jsou verejne k dispozici). i na konci znaci, ze
jde o mezinarodni versi vyuzivajici sifrovaci knihovnu urcenou pro
export z USA (pouzity algoritmus je (pouze v USA) patentovan).
PGP je pro nekomercni oblast free program pro sifrovani, digitalni
podpisy a jednoduchou spravu klice vyuzivajici asymetricke
sifrovaci algoritmy (RSA). Vedlejsim efektem pouziteho algoritmu je
komprese dat. Pouzity algoritmus zajistuje bezpecnost zasifrovanych dat
na (z hlediska lidskeho zivota) nekonecne dlouhou dobu a to i pred
vladnimi agenturami (pokud nedojde k nejakemy vyznamnemu objevu ve
faktorizaci velkych cisel).
Blizsi informace o PGP viz napriklad:
http://newstand.ims.advantis.com/henry/security.html
Informace (nejen) o RSA (=Rivest-Shamir-Adelman kryptosystem) v
cestine pak naleznete take na
http://www.kolej.mff.cuni.cz/prednes/oipage.htm (ne .html)
kde projdete pres link "Sifrovaci systemy s verejnym klicem".
S pozdravem
Dan Lukes
Dan Lukes, Patkova 3/B1206, Praha 8, Czech Republic
tel +42-(2)-8551040 ext 776, E-Mail: LUKES(or Postmaster)@Menza.MFF.CUNI.CZ
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 20:37:40 +0200
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From: Marek Jakub
Subject: Re: Talk pre windows
In article <199604101344.AA23865@bull.utc.sk> you wrote:
: Hi,
: Neviete mi, prosim, poradit, ci existuje nejaky program pod windows
: kompatibilny s prikazom TALK v unixe? Nemam na mysli ziadny
: IRC klient, ale program, ktory sa spoji s inym pocitacom na Internete
: bez pomoci IRC servera tak aby zvladol kompatibilitu s prikazom TALK.
Existuje WinTalk od ELF Comunications URL:
http://www.elf.com/elf/wintalk.html
Myslim, ze tam je 16 i 32 bitova verzia, ta ktoru pouzivam (1.25beta2) ma
nejame muchy, ale je pouzitelna
Marek
========================================================================
Marek Jakub e-mail: mjak1329@linux.ms.mff.cuni.cz
Dpt. of Computer Science
Charles University Prague
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:07:46 +0200
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From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Hanu=B9_Adler?=
Subject: homologovane modemy
brytro :)
nevite nekdo nahodou, zda a kde bych na internetu mohl najit seznam
homologovanych modemu?
diky,
hanus adler
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:53:45 +0200
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From: DUSAN BOLEK
Subject: Re: *.rar
In article <9604111341.AA11630@alpha.ujf.cas.cz> you wrote:
: To jsem samozrejme zkousel jako prvni, ale ani tak me to nevzalo na
: milost. Ale cert to vem, nasel jsem
: ftp://ftp.ruk.cuni.cz:/pub/upload/portfolio/rar200b.exe
: Podle toho 'b' to je zrejme beta. Ale chodi velice dobre, komunikace na
: zpusob Norton Commandera je moc fajn.
: Na ftp://rhino.cis.vutbr.cz:/incoming/winrar20.rar
: je verze pro wokna. Tu jsem bohuzel nevyzkousel, protoze az po
: rozbaleni jsem zjistil, ze je 32bitova :-(
: S pozdravem
:
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
: | Milos Rysavy ;-) voice: (+42 2) 66173170 ;-( _ _ _
|
: | Nucl. Phys. Institute :-( (+42 2) 66172652 :-) / |/ |/ |
|
: | 250 68 Rez near Prague :*) fax: (+42 2) 6857003 ;-( | | |
|
: | Czech Republic :-( email: rysavy@ujf.cas.cz :-) | | |_/.
|
:
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Dalsi problem infimy je ten, ze ma slovy TRI anonymous pristupy najednou,
tedy jste-li ctvrty mate smulu. Ja to resim tak, ze tam mam konto a
prihlasuji se pod svym uzivatelskym jmenem, on je to totiz celkem slusny
server.
--
*************************************************************************
* Bolek Dusan * The providence is always on the side *
* * *
* Prague, Czech Republic * of the big batalions *
*************************************************************************
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4NGmkasC2rxQuI19vYBb4NOpam749Z2gUffR2mufm23Rqmy7VIqNqB5KMqypAAUR
tB1EdXNhbiBCb2xlayA8Ym9sZWtkQHZzY2h0LmN6PokAlQMFEDErz0+KjageSjKs
qQEBxYcD/2nqMO4HaEz36BIigSZCj0GS4SPgkQFfNxf1OIi499hRe8uJ62VoXY8g
f4vRpWyK9813daDNt3+mg/g188uSjbQKMyOTv595u7LAynqqdwbsFXdrb6YI9dR4
K7+MbxoRDeOdguw35zpcIrzMHunwpWb0sbAjdKT/KMyX7EyFQscI
=ukWx
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 10:08:59 GMT+1
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From: Boris Majdiak
Organization: Military Academy, Slovakia
Subject: Re: *.rar
X-To: DUSAN BOLEK
* Ftp.infima.cz ma prihlasovani naprosto pitome, musite napsat jako password:
* rysavy@ujf.cas.cz (nestaci obvykle rysavy@). Mimochodem nevim jak vy, ale ja
* mam uz finalni verzi RARu.
Kde ste ju zohnali? Nebodaj na infime? Je to cisto DOS-ovska alebo je
to 32-bitova verzia?
Sybor
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 16:54:22 +0000
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Comments: Authenticated sender is
From: "prosper@ova.pipex.cz"
Subject: Re: *.rar
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4NGmkasC2rxQuI19vYBb4NOpam749Z2gUffR2mufm23Rqmy7VIqNqB5KMqypAAUR
tB1EdXNhbiBCb2xlayA8Ym9sZWtkQHZzY2h0LmN6PokAlQMFEDErz0+KjageSjKs
qQEBxYcD/2nqMO4HaEz36BIigSZCj0GS4SPgkQFfNxf1OIi499hRe8uJ62VoXY8g
f4vRpWyK9813daDNt3+mg/g188uSjbQKMyOTv595u7LAynqqdwbsFXdrb6YI9dR4
K7+MbxoRDeOdguw35zpcIrzMHunwpWb0sbAjdKT/KMyX7EyFQscI
=ukWx
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Dobry den, celou vasi zpravu jsem dostal v poradku, akorat, ke
konci teto zpravy jsem objevil znaky(viz. nahore), ktere jsou PGP. to
znamena Pretty good private, tedy dobre zasifrovany. Zajima me jak na
v pmailu sifruji zpravy prave pomoci PGP.?????????
Vim, ze jednou z moznosti,
jak poslat nekomu kodovanou zpravu je zapakovat to s heslem poslat
danemu cloveku dve zpravy, jeden zap[akovany soubor a jednu zpravu
obsahujici heslo. Vim,ze muzete namitnout, ze je to heslo
zjistitelne, tak to tomu clovekovi predam jinak. Mimochodem bavite se
o RAR a ja nevim, jak v tomto programu zapakovat neco na format EXE?
Poradite???
Karlos....:-]
******************************************************
* Prosper Tarding a.s. Ostrava
* trading company
* Petr Oliva, administrator of access to the internet
* e-mail: prosper@ova.pipex.cz
* voice: +42-69-54019
* fax: +42-69-3-6625174
******************************************************
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 22:37:44 PST
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From: Jiri Cap
Organization: FNSPE
Subject: Narodni galerie na WWW
Vazeni kolegove,
tato zprava je ponekud off-topic, ale presto by Vas mohlo zajimat,
ze na URL http://www.czech.cz/NG je prezentace Narodni galerie
v Praze pri prilezitosti vyroci 200 let od jejiho zalozeni.
S pozdravem Jiri Cap
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 06:26:50 +0200
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From: Petr Matousek
Subject: Re: *.rar
In-Reply-To: <199604111459.QAA12628@cbu.pipex.cz>
On Fri, 12 Apr 1996, prosper@ova.pipex.cz wrote:
> Mimochodem bavite se
> o RAR a ja nevim, jak v tomto programu zapakovat neco na format EXE?
Pri pakovani pridat parametr -sfx nebo v interaktivnim rezimu Alt-F4 nad
souborem .RAR
Zdravi
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+ Petr Matousek e-mail: matousek@chv.pvt.cz +
+ PVT a.s. phone : +42-396-326245 +
+ Skolni 5335, 430 01 Chomutov, CZ fax : +42-396-27051 +
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 07:39:34 +0200
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From: Matus Uhlar
Organization: Slovak Academic Network Kosice
Subject: Re: *.rar
At 12 Apr 1996 17:04:26 +0200 prosper@ova.pipex.cz
(prosper%OVA.PIPEX.CZ@earn.cvut.cz) wrote:
-> Dobry den, celou vasi zpravu jsem dostal v poradku, akorat, ke
-> konci teto zpravy jsem objevil znaky(viz. nahore), ktere jsou PGP. to
-> znamena Pretty good private, tedy dobre zasifrovany. Zajima me jak na
-> v pmailu sifruji zpravy prave pomoci PGP.?????????
-> Vim, ze jednou z moznosti,
-> jak poslat nekomu kodovanou zpravu je zapakovat to s heslem poslat
-> danemu cloveku dve zpravy, jeden zap[akovany soubor a jednu zpravu
-> obsahujici heslo.
Nie, PGP je o inom a heslo sa prenasat nemusi. A ak Vam bude dakedy dakto
ponukta sifrovaci system na Vami uvedeny sposob, tak sa na neho vy*****
Minule som daco take videl na WWW :-S
Ale ako hodit PGP do pmailu, neviem :(
--
Matus Uhlar, sysadm at Regional node of SANET in Kosice, Slovakia
E-mail: Matus.Uhlar@tuke.sk WWW: http://www.tuke.sk/users/uhlar
IRC: fantomas, uhlar PGP: finger uhlar@ccnews.ke.sanet.sk | pgp
...MS Win's are SHIT, donut use it !
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 07:40:38 +0200
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From: Matus Uhlar
Organization: Slovak Academic Network Kosice
Subject: Re: *.rar
At 12 Apr 1996 09:54:29 +0200 DUSAN BOLEK (Dusan.Bolek%VSCHT.CZ@earn.cvut.cz)
wrote:
-> Dalsi problem infimy je ten, ze ma slovy TRI anonymous pristupy najednou,
-> tedy jste-li ctvrty mate smulu. Ja to resim tak, ze tam mam konto a
-> prihlasuji se pod svym uzivatelskym jmenem, on je to totiz celkem slusny
-> server.
Obavam sa, ze tento sposob nie je vseobecne pouzitelny.
Ale, ak je to slusny server, preco povoluje iba 3 spojenie naraz ?
--
Matus Uhlar, sysadm at Regional node of SANET in Kosice, Slovakia
E-mail: Matus.Uhlar@tuke.sk WWW: http://www.tuke.sk/users/uhlar
IRC: fantomas, uhlar PGP: finger uhlar@ccnews.ke.sanet.sk | pgp
...MS Win's are SHIT, donut use it !
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 09:10:23 CET
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From: Milos Rysavy
Subject: Re: rar
>> o RAR a ja nevim, jak v tomto programu zapakovat neco na format EXE?
>
>Pri pakovani pridat parametr -sfx nebo v interaktivnim rezimu Alt-F4 nad
>souborem .RAR
>
Zda se mi, ze RAR dela samorozbalovaci soubory zbytecne velke. Udelal jsem
male srovnani ruznych pakovacu. Vzal jsem 71 vetsinou textovych souboru,
celkem 130555 bytu, a zapakoval je ruznymi programy. Konkretne:
zipovac z XTGOLD2.5 (to je dost stara verze), zipovac z WinZip5.0,
ARJ2.30NG, LHA2.13, ZOO2.1 a RAR2.00beta. Vysledky jsou nasledujici:
archiv EXE
ZIP z XTGOLD 30916 33941
ZIP z WinZip 25577
ARJ 22744 28073
LHA 21514 22937
ZOO 25099
RAR 17570(!) 27132
(Ve vsech pripadech jsem volil nejvyssi kompresi.)
S pozdravem
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 09:26:13 METDST
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From: Petr Simek
Subject: Re: rar
In-Reply-To: <9604150710.AA00615@alpha.ujf.cas.cz>; from "Milos Rysavy" at Apr
15, 96 9:10 am
> Zda se mi, ze RAR dela samorozbalovaci soubory zbytecne velke. Udelal jsem
> male srovnani ruznych pakovacu. Vzal jsem 71 vetsinou textovych souboru,
> celkem 130555 bytu, a zapakoval je ruznymi programy. Konkretne:
> zipovac z XTGOLD2.5 (to je dost stara verze), zipovac z WinZip5.0,
> ARJ2.30NG, LHA2.13, ZOO2.1 a RAR2.00beta. Vysledky jsou nasledujici:
>
> archiv EXE
> ZIP z XTGOLD 30916 33941
> ZIP z WinZip 25577
> ARJ 22744 28073
> LHA 21514 22937
> ZOO 25099
> RAR 17570(!) 27132
> (Ve vsech pripadech jsem volil nejvyssi kompresi.)
Nebude to tim ze vyrazne dokonalejsi kompresni algoritmus je ponekud delsi ?
Zkuste udelat vetsi archiv - tam by se ten balast tolik neprojevil.
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| Biologicka Fakulta Jihoceske Univerzity |
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 09:55:22 CET
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From: Milos Rysavy
Subject: Re: rar
>
>Nebude to tim ze vyrazne dokonalejsi kompresni algoritmus je ponekud delsi ?
>Zkuste udelat vetsi archiv - tam by se ten balast tolik neprojevil.
>
To je velice pravdepodobne - vzdycky je neco za neco. Proste kdyz budete
muset z nejakeho duvodu delat vetsi mnozstvi mensich nezavislych SFX archivu,
je vyhodnejsi pouzit treba LHA, kdyz bude jeden veliky archiv, muze byt
ten RAR naopak vyhodnejsi.
S pozdravem
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 11:20:49 +0200
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From: Petr Matousek
Subject: Re: rar
In-Reply-To: <9604150755.AA00737@alpha.ujf.cas.cz>
Jen tak mimochodem, kdyz se tak hezky rozplyvame nad kvalitou RAR, uz jste
vyzkouseli UC2?
Zdravi
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 08:37:09 +0200
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From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ji=F8=ED_Kuchta?=
Organization: Technical University of Brno
Subject: Re: *.rar
Dne 12 Apr 96 v 16:54, napsal(a) prosper@ova.pipex.cz:
>
> Dobry den, celou vasi zpravu jsem dostal v poradku, akorat, ke
> konci teto zpravy jsem objevil znaky(viz. nahore), ktere jsou PGP. to
> znamena Pretty good private, tedy dobre zasifrovany. Zajima me jak na
> v pmailu sifruji zpravy prave pomoci PGP.?????????
K WIN verzi Pegasa je mozne dodavat tzv. Extensions, jednim z nic je
i PGP sifrovani. Zatim jsem to jen nezkousel a tady nemam po ruce
blizsi informace. V kazdem pripade bych se koukl na libovolny mirror
s Pegasem a hledal v nem, pri nejhorsim tam byva velmi casto
aktualizovany seznam utilit pro Pegasa s URL kde se daji sehnat
(jmenuje se to nejak *addons* )
> Vim, ze jednou z moznosti,
> jak poslat nekomu kodovanou zpravu je zapakovat to s heslem poslat
> danemu cloveku dve zpravy, jeden zap[akovany soubor a jednu zpravu
> obsahujici heslo. Vim,ze muzete namitnout, ze je to heslo
> zjistitelne, tak to tomu clovekovi predam jinak. Mimochodem bavite se
> o RAR a ja nevim, jak v tomto programu zapakovat neco na format EXE?
Selze_li vse, precti si navod.
Je to bud prikaz 's' nebo prepinac '-sfx'.
> Poradite???
> Karlos....:-]
> ******************************************************
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> * e-mail: prosper@ova.pipex.cz
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> * fax: +42-69-3-6625174
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 18:06:42 +0200
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From: DUSAN BOLEK
Subject: Re: *.rar
: Dobry den, celou vasi zpravu jsem dostal v poradku, akorat, ke
: konci teto zpravy jsem objevil znaky(viz. nahore), ktere jsou PGP. to
: znamena Pretty good private, tedy dobre zasifrovany. Zajima me jak na
: v pmailu sifruji zpravy prave pomoci PGP.?????????
: Vim, ze jednou z moznosti,
: jak poslat nekomu kodovanou zpravu je zapakovat to s heslem poslat
: danemu cloveku dve zpravy, jeden zap[akovany soubor a jednu zpravu
: obsahujici heslo. Vim,ze muzete namitnout, ze je to heslo
: zjistitelne, tak to tomu clovekovi predam jinak. Mimochodem bavite se
: o RAR a ja nevim, jak v tomto programu zapakovat neco na format EXE?
: Poradite???
: Karlos....:-]
: ******************************************************
: * Prosper Tarding a.s. Ostrava
: * trading company
: * Petr Oliva, administrator of access to the internet
: * e-mail: prosper@ova.pipex.cz
: * voice: +42-69-54019
: * fax: +42-69-3-6625174
: ******************************************************
Ty "znaky" jsou muj public key, kdyz mi budete chtit poslat tajnou zpravu,
muzete to zasifrovat pomoci tohoto hesla. Public key umoznuje soubor jen
zasifrovat, ale neumoznuje desifrovani. Tajne heslo mam na svem pocitaci,
takze nic nemusite posilat. Stejne je to u vsech ostatnich, u kterych znate
public key. Zadne klice se e-mailem neposilaji.
Soubor normalne rarem zpakujete, pak najedete na nej a do nej (jako do
adresare, a mate na nejake funkcni klavese moznost SFX (self extract
archive), tedy konverzi na spustitelny soubor.
--
*************************************************************************
* Bolek Dusan * The providence is always on the side *
* * *
* Prague, Czech Republic * of the big batalions *
*************************************************************************
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: 2.6.3i
mQCNAzErz08AAAEEAOL/PhdFs3Bfk1fDQt4Lb+XPTNB1DkME2qg1m6nvo/UCPA8G
R26iidJLq1mVRNiBsFj0HIQbxA1BcYhSPmCAgof0JEGwLJCZzQA+vAlFAgar/5uI
4NGmkasC2rxQuI19vYBb4NOpam749Z2gUffR2mufm23Rqmy7VIqNqB5KMqypAAUR
tB1EdXNhbiBCb2xlayA8Ym9sZWtkQHZzY2h0LmN6PokAlQMFEDErz0+KjageSjKs
qQEBxYcD/2nqMO4HaEz36BIigSZCj0GS4SPgkQFfNxf1OIi499hRe8uJ62VoXY8g
f4vRpWyK9813daDNt3+mg/g188uSjbQKMyOTv595u7LAynqqdwbsFXdrb6YI9dR4
K7+MbxoRDeOdguw35zpcIrzMHunwpWb0sbAjdKT/KMyX7EyFQscI
=ukWx
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 18:24:27 PST
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From: Jiri Cap
Organization: FNSPE
Subject: Narodni galerie na WWW
X-To: www-l@lanprojekt.cz
Vazeni kolegove,
nasledujici zprava je ponekud off-topic, ale na URL
http://www.czech.cz/NG je prezentace Narodni galerie v Praze
na Internetu, jejiz soucasti je i casovy plan oslav
200 let od jejiho zalozeni.
Jiri Cap
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 23:37:37 +0000
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From: Tomas Petrzilka
Subject: Pokus
X-To: Konference WIN-L ,
Konference WIN-L ,
winnt-l@dec2000.faf.cuni.cz, janda@biomed.cas.cz
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 11:55:42 +0200
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From: Machek Pavel
Subject: dotaz na konferenci
In-Reply-To: <199604152144.XAA19368@us.spinet.cz>
Dobry den,
nevite nekdo nahodou o konferenci zamerenou na pristrojovou
techniku a vybaveni laboratori vubec ? Nemam tim zrovna na mysli
pocitace ... ( v 'Seznamu zdroju' jsem nic nevidel)
Ale kdyz uz jsem tady, hned se 'drze' zeptam:
Nevi nekdo nahodou o firme, ktera vyrabi (prodava, dodava ...)
moduly pro CAMAC (system sberu dat) ?
Za pripadnou pomoc predem dekuji
pavel machek
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 11:24:56 +0000
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From: Tomas Petrzilka
Subject: Konference o MS Accessu
X-To: winnt-l@dec2000.faf.cuni.cz
Nevite nahodou nekdo o konferenci tykajici se MS Acccessu a
programovani aplikaci v nem ?
Diky
Tomas Petrzilka
PMM spol. s r.o.
Evropska 92/643
Praha 6 - Dejvice
tel.: 02 - 24 31 28 15
tel./fax: 02 -24 31 06 60
Email: pmm@login.cz
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 11:48:27 +0200
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From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ladislav_Rudi=B9ar?=
Subject: Re: Konference o MS Accessu
X-To: "winnt-l@dec2000.faf.cuni.cz" ,
pmm
>
>Nevite nahodou nekdo o konferenci tykajici se MS Acccessu a
>programovani aplikaci v nem ?
Jestli myslite u nas, pak:
msapps-l na listservu listserv@dec51.faf.cuni.cz
Zdravi,
#
# Ladislav Rudisar
# European Microsoft Windows NT Academic Center (EMWAC CZ)
# URL: http://emwac.faf.cuni.cz
# Faculty of Pharmacy, Charles University
# URL: http://www.faf.cuni.cz, http://www.cuni.cz
# Heyrovskeho 1203, 500 05 Hradec Kralove
# Czech Republic
#
# tel. +42-49-5210835
# fax +42-49-5210002
# e-mail: rudisar@faf.cuni.cz
>
>Diky
>
>
>Tomas Petrzilka
>
>PMM spol. s r.o.
>Evropska 92/643
>Praha 6 - Dejvice
>tel.: 02 - 24 31 28 15
>tel./fax: 02 -24 31 06 60
>Email: pmm@login.cz
>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 14:43:45 +0200
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From: Ivan Vavra
Subject: IDE - EIDE ?
Dobry den.
Zakoupil jsem HD 850 MB pro rozhrani EIDE. Jelikoz moje stara 486DX/33 nema
ani VL-BUS ani PCI, nemohu pouzit kartu s timto rozhranim (tim netvrdim,
ze takova karta neexistuje, ale jednak je dost nesmyslna pro ISA sbernici
a jednak neni ke koupi).
HD s ISA "radicem" IDE samozrejme chodi, ale max. kapacita je 528 MB
(viz. Computer 2/96) a zbytek kapacity HD zustava nevyuzit. Reseni
vymenou HW je mi jasne. Na reseni pomoci SW bych se rad poptal.
Existuji programy, ktere tuto situaci resi "prekladem formatu na format
pozadovany diskem", jako udajne EZ Drive... Mohl by mi nekdo poskytnout
informaci, kde takovy program (pokud mozno na siti) najit?
Dekuji. Ivan Vavra
SAVT - Center for Automation and Computing
Institute of Physics
Academy of Sciences of Czech Republic e-mail: vavra@fzu.cz
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:09:40 +0200
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From: Miroslav Lycka
Subject: Re: IDE - EIDE ?
* Zakoupil jsem HD 850 MB pro rozhrani EIDE. Jelikoz moje stara 486DX/33 nema
* ani VL-BUS ani PCI, nemohu pouzit kartu s timto rozhranim (tim netvrdim,
* ze takova karta neexistuje, ale jednak je dost nesmyslna pro ISA sbernici
* a jednak neni ke koupi).
*
* HD s ISA "radicem" IDE samozrejme chodi, ale max. kapacita je 528 MB
* (viz. Computer 2/96) a zbytek kapacity HD zustava nevyuzit. Reseni
* vymenou HW je mi jasne. Na reseni pomoci SW bych se rad poptal.
*
* Existuji programy, ktere tuto situaci resi "prekladem formatu na format
* pozadovany diskem", jako udajne EZ Drive... Mohl by mi nekdo poskytnout
* informaci, kde takovy program (pokud mozno na siti) najit?
*
* Dekuji. Ivan Vavra
*
* SAVT - Center for Automation and Computing
* Institute of Physics
* Academy of Sciences of Czech Republic e-mail: vavra@fzu.cz
Zpocatku byly k velkym diskum WD dodavany diskety s timto driverem. Pozdeji
uz jen 1 disketa k celemu baliku, ted uz vubec. Ja jsem mel to stesti, ze
jsem jeden takovy disk koupil jeste v dobe, kdy byla disketa ke kazdemu.
Pokud neuspejete jinak, poslu Vam ten driver primo na Vasi adresu.
Miroslav Lycka
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:13:12 +0200
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From: Ivan Vavra
Subject: IDE - EIDE ? dodatek
Dobry den,
jeste pro doplneni meho predchoziho dotazu uvadim, ze BIOS me stare 486 ma
adresaci Cylindr-Hlava-Stopa, nikoli LBA, ktere je pouzito pro EIDE.
Ivan Vavra
SAVT - Center for Automation and Computing
Institute of Physics
Academy of Sciences of Czech Republic e-mail: vavra@fzu.cz
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 07:23:38 MET-2DST
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From: Petr Vodicka
Organization: VSZ Brno
Subject: ODI,paket,Trumpet -> Xircom
Vazeni,
nevite prosim Vas nahodou, jak vyresit nasledujici problem?
Dostal jsem sitovou kartu (mimochodem jednalo se patrne o nejdrazsi sitovou
kartu v soucastnosti - Xircom Pocket Ethernet Adapter III), ke ktere
prisla disketa s drivery. Jsou na ni ODI drivery a paketovy driver.
(Pouze poznamka na okraj - slouzi k pripojeni notebooku, i kdyz dle
meho nazoru cena teto karty vcetne DPH prevysuje cenu tohoto notebooku,
ale o to tu nejde)
Pln nadeje a optimismu jsem vyzkousel paketovy driver v nasledujicim bat
souboru:
@echo off
pe3pd ----> paketovy driver na zminovany adapter
winpkt 0x60
ipxpd
netx
f:
login
Toto jsem spustil na siti s maskou site 255.255.255.0. Vse jelo OK,
na novelacky server jsem se pripojil, 'Trumpetu' z Windows jsem take
spustil a vsechny aplikace - Netscape, ftp,... chodily - proste parada.
Legrace zacala, kdyz jsem masinu prenesl do jine podsite. Zde totiz
maska subsite je 255.255.255.192 (popr. 224). A zde se tataz konfigurace
spustila, ale pocitac nenasel novelacky server!!
Takze nic moc. Pouze pro zajimavost - kdyz jsem odremoval posledni 3 radky
(pripojeni na Novell) a spustil Windows, Trumpetu a Netscape, ftp,... vse
jelo OK!
Pritom na vsech vetvich pouzivame stejne protokoly (802.3 a Ethernet II).
Kdyz jsem se rozhodl pouzit ODI drivery v nasledujicim bat souboru:
lsl
pe3odi
ipxodi
odipkt
winpkt 0x60
netx
f:
login
tak vse jelo vzhledem k Novelu dobre (i kdyz DOBA nalogovani byla obludne
dlouha) ze VSECH vetvi, Trumpeta ve Windows (3.1 CZ) se natahla a hlasila,
ze zije, ale Netscape, telnet, ftp (myslim pod Windows) se nebyly schopny
nikam napojit - jako masiny nemely konektivitu okolni pocitace pri pingu
na nej hlasily neco jako '...not responding...'.
Ale ftp, ka9q,... vsechny dosacke aplikace pro Internet jely dobre.
Nesetkal se nahodou nekdo nekdy s podobnymi problemy?
To ze s ODI drivery nejedu pod Windows 3.X (mimochodem s Windows 95 to jelo
dobre ZE VSECH vetvi) je asi zpusobeno softwarovym problemem (Trumpet
winsock se s ODI asi nesnasi). Nevi nekdo o nejakem SW, ktery by s ODI
drivery chodil pod Windows (Preferoval bych nejaky share/free ware, neb
jsme skola, ktera nema penize nazbyt).
Dekuji,
Petr Vodicka
vodicka@vszbr.cz
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 07:11:17 +0200
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From: Roman Rohr
Organization: Pedagogical faculty VSP in HK
Subject: Time Server
Nemate prosim nekdo seznam blizkych time serveru (tj. domenu cz, popr.
Evropa)? Resp. kde bych takovy seznam ziskal?
Dekuji, Roman
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 09:16:25 -0200
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From: Bohumil Chalupa
Subject: Re: ODI,paket,Trumpet -> Xircom
In-Reply-To:
On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, Petr Vodicka wrote:
(prvni cast prispevku s ipxpd vynechana)
> lsl
> pe3odi
> ipxodi
> odipkt
> winpkt 0x60
> netx
> f:
> login
>
> tak vse jelo vzhledem k Novelu dobre (i kdyz DOBA nalogovani byla obludne
> dlouha) ze VSECH vetvi, Trumpeta ve Windows (3.1 CZ) se natahla a hlasila,
> ze zije, ale Netscape, telnet, ftp (myslim pod Windows) se nebyly schopny
> nikam napojit - jako masiny nemely konektivitu okolni pocitace pri pingu
> na nej hlasily neco jako '...not responding...'.
> Ale ftp, ka9q,... vsechny dosacke aplikace pro Internet jely dobre.
>
> Nesetkal se nahodou nekdo nekdy s podobnymi problemy?
>
> To ze s ODI drivery nejedu pod Windows 3.X (mimochodem s Windows 95 to jelo
> dobre ZE VSECH vetvi) je asi zpusobeno softwarovym problemem (Trumpet
> winsock se s ODI asi nesnasi).
Vyse uvedenou sestavu s ODI, IPXODI a ODIPKT u nas bezne pouzivame.
(Karty jsou ale SMC.) Jak v pocitacove ucebne, tak i na dalsich
stanicich funguje Trumpet Winsock pres odipkt naprosto bez problemu.
U odipkt mame jeste nejake command line parametry, ktere musi
korespodovat s net.cfg.
Zdravi
bohumil chalupa
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 10:29:23 EST
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From: Pavel Janecek
Organization: Czech Management Center
Subject: Re: ODI,paket,Trumpet -> Xircom
> lsl
> pe3odi
> ipxodi
> odipkt
> winpkt 0x60
> netx
> f:
> login
>
> To ze s ODI drivery nejedu pod Windows 3.X (mimochodem s Windows 95 to jelo
> dobre ZE VSECH vetvi) je asi zpusobeno softwarovym problemem (Trumpet
> winsock se s ODI asi nesnasi). Nevi nekdo o nejakem SW, ktery by s ODI
> drivery chodil pod Windows (Preferoval bych nejaky share/free ware, neb
> jsme skola, ktera nema penize nazbyt).
>
Podobnou konfiguraci viz vyse pouzivam, vse funguje bez problemu.
Karty jsou sice od 3com a paket vector mam nastaveny na 0x69, ale to
by nemelo hrat nejakou zavaznou roli.
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 11:56:36 +0200
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From: Jan Krajic
Organization: DCIT Praha
Subject: Re: ODI,paket,Trumpet -> Xircom
On 18 Apr 96 at 7:23, Petr Vodicka wrote:
> Legrace zacala, kdyz jsem masinu prenesl do jine podsite. Zde totiz
> maska subsite je 255.255.255.192 (popr. 224). A zde se tataz konfigurace
> spustila, ale pocitac nenasel novelacky server!!
Problem je v typu ramcu. Pokud novelacky server pouziva ramce
802.3, pak je nutne spustit packet driver s prepinacem -n (provadi
konverzi 802.3 <-> Ethernet_II).
Zdravi
Jan Krajic,
DCIT s.r.o.
e-mail krajic@dcit.cz
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 11:58:08 METDST
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From: Petr Simek
Subject: Re: ODI,paket,Trumpet -> Xircom
In-Reply-To: ; from "Petr
Vodicka" at Apr 18, 96 7:23 am
> Legrace zacala, kdyz jsem masinu prenesl do jine podsite. Zde totiz
> maska subsite je 255.255.255.192 (popr. 224). A zde se tataz konfigurace
> spustila, ale pocitac nenasel novelacky server!!
Otazka zni - routuje vubec router pres ktery jste byl pripojen Novella (IPX) ?
- pokud ano - routuje ten spravny protokol ktery Vy pouzivate ?
> Takze nic moc. Pouze pro zajimavost - kdyz jsem odremoval posledni 3 radky
> (pripojeni na Novell) a spustil Windows, Trumpetu a Netscape, ftp,... vse
> jelo OK!
Kdyz funguje IP jeste neznamena ze funguje i IPX - jine masiny na te same siti
funguji normalne ? - pokud ano zkontrolujte protokol v net.cfg je-li stejny.
Nekdy muze byt potiz i ve verzi klienta - zkuste prekopirovat funkcniho, upravit
startnet.bat a net.cfg .
> lsl
> pe3odi
> ipxodi
> odipkt
> winpkt 0x60
> netx
> f:
> login
>
> tak vse jelo vzhledem k Novelu dobre (i kdyz DOBA nalogovani byla obludne
> dlouha) ze VSECH vetvi, Trumpeta ve Windows (3.1 CZ) se natahla a hlasila,
To je divne.
> ze zije, ale Netscape, telnet, ftp (myslim pod Windows) se nebyly schopny
> nikam napojit - jako masiny nemely konektivitu okolni pocitace pri pingu
Typnul bych si ze mate vyhrazeno (net.cfg) malo bufferu pro odipkt.
> na nej hlasily neco jako '...not responding...'.
> Ale ftp, ka9q,... vsechny dosacke aplikace pro Internet jely dobre.
Jednou se mi neco podobneho stalo - bylo to Trumpetou - dal jsem starsi verzi
a vse se vyresilo.
> To ze s ODI drivery nejedu pod Windows 3.X (mimochodem s Windows 95 to jelo
> dobre ZE VSECH vetvi) je asi zpusobeno softwarovym problemem (Trumpet
> winsock se s ODI asi nesnasi). Nevi nekdo o nejakem SW, ktery by s ODI
Trumpet winsock se s odi (odipkt + winpkt) snasi dobre.
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 12:08:23 CEN
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From: Milan Benedikt
Organization: Agriculture University Prague
Subject: prosba
Dobry den,
Omlouvam se ze se to nehodi, ale zoufale schanim
nasledujici soubory:
1) pmxmlid.com (ODI ovladac sitove ethernet karty PCMCIA II od
firmy PreMaX, typ P-200)
2) cardtalk.386 (windowsova podpora rozhrani PCMCIA pro notebooky
NoteStar - konkretne jde o typ NP-746)
Nestastnou nahodou jsem o ne uplne prisel, a tak prosim o pomoc.
Dekuji za odpovedi
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Pr'a'telsky Milan Benedikt, InK.
E-mail: somoza@pef.vsz.cz
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 14:33:56 +0200
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From: Ivan Vavra
Subject: IDE - EIDE - OK!
Dekuji kolegum Lukesovi, Landovskemu, Polcerovi, Letosoni za
informace a nabidnutou pomoc a zvlaste pak kolegovi Lyckovi, ktery byl
ze vsech nejrychlejsi a disketu s driverem pro WD HD mi poslal po siti.
Nyni s @:^ )
Ivan Vavra
SAVT - Center for Automation and Computing
Institute of Physics
Academy of Sciences of Czech Republic e-mail: vavra@fzu.cz
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 15:03:27 GMT+1
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Comments: Authenticated sender is
From: Science Systems CR
Organization: Science Systems CR
Subject: -->POMOC - Graficka karta WD Paradise!
X-To: bazar-l@kolej.mff.cuni.cz, ibm-pc@salome.zcu.cz
Dobry den!
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 16:15:25 +0200
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From: DUSAN BOLEK
Subject: Re: rar
In article you
wrote:
: Jen tak mimochodem, kdyz se tak hezky rozplyvame nad kvalitou RAR, uz jste
: vyzkouseli UC2?
: Zdravi
: + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
: + Petr Matousek e-mail: matousek@chv.pvt.cz +
: + PVT a.s. phone : +42-396-326245 +
: + Skolni 5335, 430 01 Chomutov, CZ fax : +42-396-27051 +
: + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Vyzkousel jsem ho a je dobry. Problem je v tom, ze dnes uz je hodne dobrych
pakovacu, ale clovek muze zustat jen u jednoho.
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 17:05:02 GMT
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From: Michal Hucik
Organization: FORESTA SG, a.s.
Subject: ftpmail@ftp.vslib.cz
Hi,
nevite nekdo co se deje s ftpmail@ftp.vslib.cz? Uz tyden mi odpovida
zpravami tohoto typu:
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from bb-prg.eunet.cz [193.85.1.10]
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Pripadne nevite nekdo o jinem ftpmail serveru v nasich krajich?
Ahoj -
Michal
--
Michal Hucik, FORESTA SG a.s., Halenkov, Czech Republic
E-mail: chaky@foresta.cz, 2:421/55@fidonet My computer -
Phone +42 657 97407, Fax +42 657 91517 my castle.
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:14:45 MET
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From: "J.Kastl"
Subject: Re: ftpmail@ftp.vslib.cz
In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 18 Apr 1996 17:05:02 GMT from
On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 17:05:02 GMT Michal Hucik said:
>Hi,
> nevite nekdo co se deje s ftpmail@ftp.vslib.cz? Uz tyden mi odpovida
>zpravami tohoto typu:
> ...
>Pripadne nevite nekdo o jinem ftpmail serveru v nasich krajich?
>
Pouzivejte BITFTP, lepsi, prehlednejsi a obcas na to dohlednou.
Kolikrat ja jsem jiz diskutoval na tema, ze v Liberci neni temer
na nic spolehnuti. Ale vzdy to skonci tim, ze tam umeji lepe delat
obrazky do WWW . Urcite Vam zase odpovi, ze FTPMAIL je ted vlastne
skoro k nicemu a proto se tim moc nezabyvaji. ( O aktualizaci
HYTELNETu, kdyz presla NK z BETA.NKP.CZ na ALPHA.NKP.CZ a ja tehdy
mival zrovna kursy pro knihovnice, bych snad mohl psat do novin,
jak se nema zpochybnovat vira nezasvecenych lidi v to, ze pocitace
jim pomohou. Vzdy prakticke ukazky skoncily tim, ze mi pracovnice
z knihoven vykladaly, kolik mesicu to jiz je, co je "visitor" na Alphe.
A zda alespon toto neslo u nas opravit. A ja jim vysvetloval, ze si
tam asi neprecetli navod, jak opravit nebo doplnit odkazy, protoze
jsem nevedl, co jineho mam rici. )
Se srdecnym pozdravem J. Kastl
P.S. Adresy BITFTP
+----------------------------------------------------------+
| |
| EARN/BITNET Internet Zeme |
| |
+----------------------------------------------------------+
| |
| BITFTP@PLEARN.BITNET BITFTP@plearn.edu.pl Polsko |
| BITFTP@DEARN.BITNET BITFTP@vm.gmd.de Nemecko |
| BITFTP@PUCC.BITNET BITFTP@pucc.princeton.edu USA |
| |
+----------------------------------------------------------+
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:39:46 MET-1EET
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From: "Jiri A. Randus"
Organization: Technical University of Liberec
Subject: Re: ftpmail@ftp.vslib.cz
X-To: "J.Kastl" , pavel.satrapa@vslib.cz
> Michal Hucik said:
>
> > nevite nekdo co se deje s ftpmail@ftp.vslib.cz? Uz tyden mi odpovida
> >zpravami tohoto typu:
> > ...
> >Pripadne nevite nekdo o jinem ftpmail serveru v nasich krajich?
> >
Zprava o nefunkcnosti ftpmailu se mi donesla az dnes. Ihned jsem zjistoval,
v cem je chyba, a zjistil jsem, ze FTPmail sice chodi, ale z neznameho
duvodu nefunguje `local delivery' na hostujicim stroji. Domnivam se, ze to
muze byt zpusobeno zmenami, ktere pred cca 14 dny delal kolega Petr Kolar
v konfiguraci sendmailu. Az se PK po nedeli vrati, pozadam ho, aby se na
to znovu podival. Priznivci FTPmailu, vydrzte to jeste do pondelka...
> J. Kastl said:
>
> Pouzivejte BITFTP, lepsi, prehlednejsi a obcas na to dohlednou.
Huh? V cem lepsi? V cem prehlednejsi? (Otazka nazoru, predpokladam).
> Kolikrat ja jsem jiz diskutoval na tema, ze v Liberci neni temer
> na nic spolehnuti.
Ha, schvalne... kolikrat? Nechci zacinat zadny plamen (drive flame), ale
domnivam se, ze toto tvrzeni, pokud bylo proneseno ve verejne diskusi, by
melo byt VELMI DOBRE PODLOZENO. S cistym svedomim si troufnu oponovat
proti tvrzeni, ze `temer na nic neni v LBC spolehnuti', a budu tvrdit, ze
`na drtivou vetsinu veci v Liberci spolehnuti je, a pokud se neco pokazi,
je to zahy napraveno.' Nakonec, at se k tomu vyjadri i ostatni...
> Urcite Vam zase odpovi, ze FTPMAIL je ted vlastne
> skoro k nicemu a proto se tim moc nezabyvaji.
To temer zavani predpojatosti. FTPmail je k necemu, a proto se (byt s
prestavkami) osobne zabyvam jeho zdokonalovanim a vyvojem.
> ( O aktualizaci
> HYTELNETu, kdyz presla NK z BETA.NKP.CZ na ALPHA.NKP.CZ a ja tehdy
> mival zrovna kursy pro knihovnice, bych snad mohl psat do novin,
> jak se nema zpochybnovat vira nezasvecenych lidi v to, ze pocitace
> jim pomohou. Vzdy prakticke ukazky skoncily tim, ze mi pracovnice
> z knihoven vykladaly, kolik mesicu to jiz je, co je "visitor" na Alphe.
> A zda alespon toto neslo u nas opravit. A ja jim vysvetloval, ze si
> tam asi neprecetli navod, jak opravit nebo doplnit odkazy, protoze
> jsem nevedl, co jineho mam rici. )
O nejakych nesrovnalostech v Hytelnetu slysim poprve v zivote, coz je
bezesporu podivne, uz z toho duvodu, ze se o Hytelnet staram ja. Nabizi se
zde otazka, zda ona `kolikrat diskutovana nespolehlivost atd.' nebyla
diskutovana na nespravne pude (muzete se mnou nesouhlasit, ale myslim si,
ze CSINFO-L _NENI_ vhodna puda pro ohlasovani chyb a nedokonalosti v
pocitacovych sluzbach).
> Se srdecnym pozdravem J. Kastl
S rovnez srdecnym pozdravem
Jiri Randus
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Jiri A. Randus Technical University of Liberec
E-Mail: Jiri.Randus@vslib.cz Dept. of Computer Science
Phone: +42-48-5227-374 Halkova 6, 461 17 Liberec
Fax: +42-48-5100-865 Czech Republic
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:17:32 GMT+1200
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From: PIKULA Lubo - St
Organization: Technical University
Subject: vie niekto ...
neviem ci som v tej spravnej konfernecii,ale
aj tak sa spytam,ci mi niekto nevie povedat
adresu firmy SHARP (nie ich obchodnych zastupcov)
dakujem
Pikula
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:19:06 GMT+1
From: Boris Majdiak
Subject: Driver-CS
Zdravim Vas vsetkych vo spolok!
Mam jeden problem. Neviem kde by sa dali pozhanat drivre pre
cesko-slovensku diakritiku v EXE alebo COM tvare. Tie, ktore mam, mi
idu dobre len na 386-SX, ale na ziadnom Pentiu, na ktorych som to
skusal, mi nechodil spravne ani jeden.
Dakujem za kazdu radu.
Sybor
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:55:44 GMT+1
From: Boris Majdiak
Subject: Re: Driver-CS
* skusal, mi nechodil spravne ani jeden.
Prepacte, uz som asi prisiel nato, v com bola chyba. Vsade totiz boli
nainstalovane Win95 a ja som to potreboval bez ich spustenych
drivrov.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:54:23 GMT+1200
From: Vincent Kravec
Subject: Re: Spravci a uzivatele (Re: ftpmail@ftp.vslib.cz)
=3D>Date sent: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 10:43:35 +0200
=3D>Send reply to: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
=3D>From: Petr Matousek
=3D>Subject: Re: Spravci a uzivatele (Re: ftpmail@ftp.vslib.cz)
=3D>Originally to: "CSINFO-L%CESNET.CZ@earn.cvut.cz"
=3D>
=3D>To: Multiple recipients of list CSINFO-L
=3D>> Mozna je to utopie, ale dokud uzivatele nebudou na takove urovni, ab=
y
=3D>> odkazali "vsemocne spravce" do patricnych mezi, tzn. role technicke
=3D>> podpory, ktera je _povinna_ zajistit to, co uzivatele potrebuji (to
=3D>> zavisi na pristupu vedeni organizace), bude to (se vzrustajici
=3D>> slozitosti atd. atd.) cimdal horsi.
=3D>
=3D>Utopie to zatim je, a nejen proto, ze by byl spravce linej - ona taky
=3D>kazda sranda neco stoji. To si snad vubec neuvedomuji nasi ctihodni
=3D>kolegove z universit, kteri maji vetsinu softwaru free a hardware
No niekedy (ak vobec) su to danajske dary a okrem toho po 6-tich rokoch na=
univerzite este stale mam v stave XT za nejakych smiesnych 225 000 Sk a an=
i
fuka na to aby som ho mohol zmykat ako aspon ascii terminal ...
Vite mozno ze som z V=E1sho pohladu z nejakej inej galaxii no ak chcete ma=
t
nieco poriadne musite si na to zarobit napr. z VHC . Lebo cakat a akumulov=
at
prostriedky vo sfere kde 15. decembra sa konci rok a vsetky nepreinvestova=
ne
peniaze su fuc a ked sa vydari tak v maji mozno uz pridu nove , je scifi.=
=3D>potreba usetrit, usetri se na softwaru a tim na funkcnosti cele
=3D>Kazdej sef vidi nutnost koupit pocitac za 40 tisic, ale nikdo ho
=3D>nepresvedci, ze programy potrebuje treba za 80!
V tom suhlas 2 miliony na auto nieje nikdy na skodu ale 250.000 Skoda ,ze =
to
nebola univerzita. Okrem toho to nieco o sefovi.
vincent kravec FVU SjF TU Kosice, Letna 9 041 87 Kosice
e-mail: kravec@sjfnov.tuke.sk tel :095/399062-73 kl. 485
supervisor: sjfnov.tuke.sk
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:42:47 +0200
From: Ivan Vavra
Subject: Re: Driver-CS
On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Boris Majdiak wrote:
> idu dobre len na 386-SX, ale na ziadnom Pentiu, na ktorych som to
> skusal, mi nechodil spravne ani jeden.
> Dakujem za kazdu radu.
> Sybor
>
Pane kolego,
pouzivam leta dle meho soudu velmi zdarilou cestinu (slovenstinu) od
p.Nemecka, fa Golem, P.O.Box 66,
756 61Roznov pod Radhostem, tel. 0651/54044 (adr. je z roku 91).
Vzhledem k letitosti teto cestiny, ktera chodi i na Pentiu, nerucim za to
zda tato firma jeste existuje. Pokud byste neuspel viz. vyse, obratte se
na moji e-mailovou adresu.
Ivan Vavra
SAVT - Center for Automation and Computing
Institute of Physics
Academy of Sciences of Czech Republic e-mail: vavra@fzu.cz
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:57:34 MET
From: KOCMAN@ST.SKM.VUTBR.CZ
Subject: Autorun ve Win 3.1
Neznate nekdo programek nebo ovladac pro Win 3.x, ktery by plnil
funkci autorun(play) z Win95 ? (pri vlozeni CD se nacte soubor
autorun.inf a provede se, audioCD se zacne prehravat)
Dekuji
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:00:11 EST
From: Pavel Janecek
Subject: Re: Autorun ve Win 3.1
> Neznate nekdo programek nebo ovladac pro Win 3.x, ktery by plnil
> funkci autorun(play) z Win95 ? (pri vlozeni CD se nacte soubor
> autorun.inf a provede se, audioCD se zacne prehravat)
>
> Dekuji
>
neco podobne je v PowerToys od Microsoftu. Zkuste emwac.faf.cuni.cz.
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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:24:26 MET-2DST
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From: Petr Vodicka
Organization: VSZ Brno
Subject: Novell Netware - konec jednoduchosti?
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Vazeni,
nerad pisi do konference o svych pocitech a ne zcela podlozenych
'podezrenich', ale zde si dovolim udelat vyjimku.
Pracuji na skole jiz skoro 6 let a po celou tu dobu pracuji s Novelem.
Nejprve to byly verze 2.15, pak 3.11 a 3.12. I kdyz - jak znamo - zadny
software neni dokonaly, s temito verzemi jsem (alespon ja osobne a rada
uzivatelu) byl spokojen - moc jsem od Novelu neocekaval, on mi moc
nenabizel (myslim tim vselijake FTP/TELNET/WWW/GOPHER sluzby), ale to co
umel umel OPRAVDU dobre. Byl to proste SPECIALISTA na poskytovani
souborovych a tiskovych sluzeb. Delal to celkem rychle (jak jenom rychle
to jde na pocitacich typu PC s 10 Mbitovym ETHERNETEM).
Pak prisla nova rada 4.XY.
Podlehl jsem reklamni kampani firmy Novell a doporucil jsem na jednu ucebnu
Novell 4.01 (ale na druhe strane - publikovane vlastnosti byly opravdu
dost zajimave - subalokace, migrace, real-timova komprese, prihlaseni se
do site misto na server - no nekupte to!).
A problemy zacaly (bez uzardeni se priznavam, ze rada z nich byla zpusobena
mou neznalosti systemu).
Uvedu pouze nektere z nich (Opet upozornuji, ze vim (popr. tusim), ze se
DAJI resit, ale ... Ale nekdy za cenu znacneho usili)
- MAXIMALNI VHODNOST prejit na nove drivery (tzv. moduly VLM). Pokud se
pripojuji pomoci standardniho NETX, nejsem prilogovan do NDS, neprovede
se mi ani systemovy login script.
- Dost velka NEPREHLEDNOST spravy celeho systemu. Opravdu - zatimco verze
3.XY se spravovaly celkem lehce a transparentne, u spravy systemu
zacinajicich na 4 je to o dost slozitejsi. A neni to zpusobeno pouze
tim, ze by slo o objektove orientovany pristup. (I kdyz ten ma zde
i sve vyhody.)
Dokumentace mi moc nesedla - nebyla IMHO moc dobre napsana -
zj. ve stati o NDS (Network Directory Services) mi chybelo vice
praktickych prikladu.
Horsi bylo, ze tistena dokumentace s timto systemem implicitne nechodi.
No nic setrit se musi.
- Systemove pozadavky. Nevim jak kdo, ale me zkusenosti jsou nasledujici:
- verze 4.XX je podstatne rozezranejsi ma pamet. Pokud NEPOUZIVAM
kompresi, je realne potreba ZACINAT s 16 MB RAM, pokud kompresi
pouzivam, je realna nutnost zacinat s 32 MB OP. U verze 3.XY je ke
stejne rychlosti dostatecnych 8-12 MB RAM.
- Komprese DOST zpomaluje. Je sice mozne nastavit, ze komprese se bude
provadet s nejmensi prioritou, v noci a ja jeste nevim co, ale faktem
zustava, ze kdyz potrebuji nejaky soubor, ktery je zkomprimovany, tak
jej potrebuji nejpozdeji IHNED. No a pokud je nas takovych vice...
Tak se disk muze umlatit, a pamet muze nestacit.
- Celkova odezva systemu se mi zda ponekud pomalejsi (Zde se ale
priznavam, ze muze jit o subjektivni dojem, dale ani hardware, ktery
pouzivame neni asi dnes to prave orechove 486 50 DX2 16 MB RAM).
- Verze 4.XY nijak vyrazne nezlepsila HROZNOU spravu sdilenych CD ROM
na siti. Jestli nekdo zkousel sdilet CD ROMku na novelackem serveru,
vi, o cem mluvim (montovani trva celou vecnost, rada cedecek se
nenamontuje - velmi puvabne bylo, jak mi po asi 10 minutach montovani
napsal system zpravu ze nelze namontovat, vymena cedecek je taky male
dobrodruzstvi...)
Proc o tom ale vlastne pisi?
Rozhodne nechci zacit polemizovat o produktu jako takovem. Verim, ze
produkt jako takovy je asi 'lepsi' a modernejsi nez jeho predchudci, ale...
Firma Novell udelala opravdu pekne gesto, kdyz pro skolstvi zavedla opravdu
slusne ceny. Vsechna cest! Ale...
Ale tyto ceny se vztahuji na verzi 4.1.
Takze otazka - lze sehnat 'STAROU BLBOU 3.12 pro 50 uzivatelu' za cenu,
za kterou nam chce Novell prodat 'SUPERMODERNI VLAJKOVOU LOD' ?
(Nezpochybnuji pravo firmy Novell na tento krok - ten je zcela legitimni
i kdyz asi ponekud nestandardni)
Dekuji,
Petr Vodicka
vodicka@vszbr.cz
P.S. Nejsem zadny zpatecnik, ale rozhodne nechci opoustet stary dobry system,
ktery nam plne vyhovuje jenom proto, ze firma udelala verzi novou.
Jenomze takhle ... Cpou nas tam tedy dost tvrde.
P.P.S. Rozhodne nechci timto zpusobit zadnou polemiku na tema Novell. Ale
variace na tema: 'Upgradujte at se nase firma ma lepe' v podani
firmy Novell je dost nestandardni. Vetsinou jsme - myslim - zvykli, ze
stare zbozi je levnejsi nez nove a moderni. Nebo ze by labuti pisen
firmy Novell na poli Netware?
Poznamka:
Vahal jsem, zda tento prispevek poslat do verejne diskuze. Ale jelikoz
me tento problem tizi jiz delsi dobu, jsem zvedavy na Vase reakce,
zkusenosti,...
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:57:14 +0200
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From: Stepan Kasal
Subject: Re: Novell Netware - konec jednoduchosti?
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Dobry den,
pan Petr Vodicka do teto konference poslal velice pekny prispevek
o Novell netware 3x versus 4x.
S drzosti a jesitnosti sobe vlastni navrhuji, aby se tato diskuse
presunula do konference Novell na nasem serveru. Poslete na adresu
listserv@ksvi.mff.cuni.cz dopis obsahujici text (ne subject)
sub Novell
Vsichni zajemci jsou vitani.
At Vas pocitace poslouchaji,
Stepan Kasal
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:11:57 MET
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From: Jaroslav Polcer FCH VUT Brno
Subject: Re: Novell Netware - konec jednoduchosti?
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> Vazeni,
> Pak prisla nova rada 4.XY.
> Podlehl jsem reklamni kampani firmy Novell a doporucil jsem na jednu ucebnu
> Novell 4.01 (ale na druhe strane - publikovane vlastnosti byly opravdu
> dost zajimave - subalokace, migrace, real-timova komprese, prihlaseni se
> do site misto na server - no nekupte to!).
> A problemy zacaly (bez uzardeni se priznavam, ze rada z nich byla zpusobena
> mou neznalosti systemu).
> 3.XY se spravovaly celkem lehce a transparentne, u spravy systemu
> zacinajicich na 4 je to o dost slozitejsi. A neni to zpusobeno pouze
Bohuzel mohu jen souhlasit, mam pekne funkcni a relativne spolehlivou
3.12 a 4.1 jsem radeji nechal v supliku a upgade neprovedl (lepe
receno korektne se nedaril a cast modulu pro nestandartni zarizeni
nemam).
Polcer
P.S. Zda se Vam Vase sit lina? Zkuste jet po polni ceste 150 km/hod.
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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:13:55 METDST
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From: Petr Simek
Subject: Re: Novell Netware - konec jednoduchosti?
In-Reply-To: ; from "Petr
Vodicka" at Apr 30, 96 9:24 am
> Vazeni,
> nerad pisi do konference o svych pocitech a ne zcela podlozenych
> 'podezrenich', ale zde si dovolim udelat vyjimku.
> Pak prisla nova rada 4.XY.
> Uvedu pouze nektere z nich (Opet upozornuji, ze vim (popr. tusim), ze se
> DAJI resit, ale ... Ale nekdy za cenu znacneho usili)
>
> - MAXIMALNI VHODNOST prejit na nove drivery (tzv. moduly VLM). Pokud se
> pripojuji pomoci standardniho NETX, nejsem prilogovan do NDS, neprovede
> se mi ani systemovy login script.
Ja tu mam 3.11 a pouzivam VLM take. Ma kryptovani hesel, podepisovani paketu
a ja nevim co jeste. Nepripada mi to jako velka nevyhoda (puvodne tu byl take
NETX) provest zmenu.
> - Dost velka NEPREHLEDNOST spravy celeho systemu. Opravdu - zatimco verze
> 3.XY se spravovaly celkem lehce a transparentne, u spravy systemu
> zacinajicich na 4 je to o dost slozitejsi. A neni to zpusobeno pouze
> tim, ze by slo o objektove orientovany pristup. (I kdyz ten ma zde
> i sve vyhody.)
Presne tenhle pocit jsem z toho mel taky a mam ho dosud. Jednu nespornou vyhodu
ale prihlasovani 'do site' misto na server ma. Novell bezi na PCckach a jejich
vykon se neda hnat do nekonecna. A diky NDS muzete rozdelit zdroje na vice
PC a spravujete je jednotne - udrzovat konzistentni databaze uzivatelu na vice
serverech 3.x je velice narocne neli nemozne.
> Dokumentace mi moc nesedla - nebyla IMHO moc dobre napsana -
> Horsi bylo, ze tistena dokumentace s timto systemem implicitne nechodi.
> No nic setrit se musi.
To je spis o zvyk - hloupe na tom je ze kdyz se chce clovek podivat do manualu
potrebuje k tomu PCcko s Windows.
> - Systemove pozadavky. Nevim jak kdo, ale me zkusenosti jsou nasledujici:
> - verze 4.XX je podstatne rozezranejsi ma pamet. Pokud NEPOUZIVAM
> kompresi, je realne potreba ZACINAT s 16 MB RAM, pokud kompresi
> pouzivam, je realna nutnost zacinat s 32 MB OP. U verze 3.XY je ke
> stejne rychlosti dostatecnych 8-12 MB RAM.
Mam zkusenost ze 4.x chce na stejne veci zhruba o 4 MB navrch proti 3.x .
> - Komprese DOST zpomaluje. Je sice mozne nastavit, ze komprese se bude
> provadet s nejmensi prioritou, v noci a ja jeste nevim co, ale faktem
> zustava, ze kdyz potrebuji nejaky soubor, ktery je zkomprimovany, tak
> jej potrebuji nejpozdeji IHNED. No a pokud je nas takovych vice...
> Tak se disk muze umlatit, a pamet muze nestacit.
Tak s timhle uplne nesouhlasim. Presne jsem to samozrejme nemeril. Ale jako
prikad - znamy zacal pouzivat stackera (ja vim ze to neni to same) a kdyz
jsem se ho ptal jak poklesl vykon jeho stroje, tak odpovedel ze se mu zda
byt rychlejsi. Mel docela rychly stroj a to co ztratil na kompresi to usetril
na diskovych operacich.
> - Celkova odezva systemu se mi zda ponekud pomalejsi (Zde se ale
> - Verze 4.XY nijak vyrazne nezlepsila HROZNOU spravu sdilenych CD ROM
> na siti. Jestli nekdo zkousel sdilet CD ROMku na novelackem serveru,
> vi, o cem mluvim (montovani trva celou vecnost, rada cedecek se
> nenamontuje - velmi puvabne bylo, jak mi po asi 10 minutach montovani
> napsal system zpravu ze nelze namontovat, vymena cedecek je taky male
> dobrodruzstvi...)
No zas tak dlouho to netrva (mountovani) spis jak ktere. Zkousel jsem jich asi
10 a zadny problem s namountovanim. CDcka mountuji pomoci srciptu CDMNT a
CDUMNT - bez problemu.
> Proc o tom ale vlastne pisi?
> Firma Novell udelala opravdu pekne gesto, kdyz pro skolstvi zavedla opravdu
> slusne ceny. Vsechna cest! Ale...
> Ale tyto ceny se vztahuji na verzi 4.1.
> Takze otazka - lze sehnat 'STAROU BLBOU 3.12 pro 50 uzivatelu' za cenu,
> za kterou nam chce Novell prodat 'SUPERMODERNI VLAJKOVOU LOD' ?
Myslim ze ne. Oni skutecne vsemi prostredky prosazuji svoji 4.1 . Jeden cas
dokonce zdrazili 3.12 na uroven 4.01 protoze tu novou nikdo nekupoval.
> (Nezpochybnuji pravo firmy Novell na tento krok - ten je zcela legitimni
> i kdyz asi ponekud nestandardni)
>
> Dekuji,
> Petr Vodicka
> vodicka@vszbr.cz
> P.S. Nejsem zadny zpatecnik, ale rozhodne nechci opoustet stary dobry system,
> ktery nam plne vyhovuje jenom proto, ze firma udelala verzi novou.
> Jenomze takhle ... Cpou nas tam tedy dost tvrde.
>
> P.P.S. Rozhodne nechci timto zpusobit zadnou polemiku na tema Novell. Ale
> variace na tema: 'Upgradujte at se nase firma ma lepe' v podani
> firmy Novell je dost nestandardni. Vetsinou jsme - myslim - zvykli, ze
> stare zbozi je levnejsi nez nove a moderni. Nebo ze by labuti pisen
> firmy Novell na poli Netware?
Nojo, kdyz vetsine staci na nejakou malou sit jeden server - vic nepotrebuji.
Takze by si vsichni koupili 3.x . A kdyz se 4.x nebude prodavat - kdo zaplati
jeji vyvoj ? :-) Otazka je, jestli ti, kterym staci jeden server v tomhle
pripade nezkusi radeji MS.
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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:51:41 +0200
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From: Dan Lukes
Organization: Obludarium
Subject: Re: Novell Netware - konec jednoduchosti?
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Tento prispevek je ponekud delsi. Omlouvam se.
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Dne 30 Apr 96 v 9:24, Petr Vodicka uvedl(a):
> Pracuji na skole jiz skoro 6 let a po celou tu dobu pracuji s Novelem.
> Nejprve to byly verze 2.15, pak 3.11 a 3.12. I kdyz - jak znamo - zadny
...
> umel umel OPRAVDU dobre. Byl to proste SPECIALISTA na poskytovani
> souborovych a tiskovych sluzeb. Delal to celkem rychle (jak jenom rychle
> to jde na pocitacich typu PC s 10 Mbitovym ETHERNETEM).
>
> Pak prisla nova rada 4.XY.
...
> A problemy zacaly (bez uzardeni se priznavam, ze rada z nich byla zpusobena
Ano, to je uz tak. Pro zacatek pominme, ze 4.0 a 4.01 byly tak
zachybovane, ze byly a jsou prakticky nepouzitelne a zavedme predpoklad,
ze v rade 4.x existuje jedinna verse a to 4.1.
Predchozi verze byly alfa a beta testovacimi, skoda je, ze tuto
skutecnost Novell zapomel v reklame uvest a take zakalkulovat do ceny.
> - MAXIMALNI VHODNOST prejit na nove drivery (tzv. moduly VLM). Pokud se
No, Novell avizoval historickou "prezilost" NETX driv nez na trh vylezla
prvni pouzitelna 4.x a zamenu NETX/VLM doporucoval jiz dlouho pro Netware
bez ohledu na verzi. Jinak ale NETX pod 4.X funguje (pravda, pouze
bindery emulation) ale vami popisovane problemy s login-scripty jsem
nezaregistroval. Tedy pokud systemovym login-scriptem ruzumite
stale SYS:SYSTEM/NET$LOG.DAT a nikoli to, co jim nazyva NDS (pak jej taky
musite upravovat SYSCONem a ne NETADMINem).
> - Dost velka NEPREHLEDNOST spravy celeho systemu. Opravdu - zatimco verze
> 3.XY se spravovaly celkem lehce a transparentne, u spravy systemu
> zacinajicich na 4 je to o dost slozitejsi. A neni to zpusobeno pouze
To se neda nic delat, pokud system nabizi tolik ruznych moznosti (ted
nemluvim o jejich potrebnosti nebo smysluplnosti), je pravdepodobne, ze
naroky na spravu (spravce) systemu vzrostou. Vadou je ale pravdepodobne
to, ze Novell neposkytl navod jak spravovat jim vytvoreneho molocha aby
se pritom neztratil prehled. Takhle je kazdy spravce nucen vymyslet
system vlastni, coz jednak muze znamenat, ze se mu to vubec nepodari,
nebo vymysli spatne (aniz by to vedel) a nasledkem toho se bude system
velmi obtizne predavat jeho nastupci, pokud to bude vubec mozne. O
neporovnatelne vetsim nebezpeci der do systemu (at uz zpusobenych
spravcovou chybou nebo umyslem - a to jak spravce nebo "utocnika"), ktere
se daji hure odhalit (a mam jeste neotestovany pocit, ze dobre udelana
dira se skoro odhalit neda a to i kdyz o ni schopny spravce vi).
Mimochodem, myslim, ze nejakou koncepci prehledne spravy rozsahle site
nevytvoril ani Novell (pokud ignorujeme existujici koncepce zalozene na
zakazu pouzivani vetsiny novych vymozenosti).
> - Systemove pozadavky. Nevim jak kdo, ale me zkusenosti jsou nasledujici:
> - verze 4.XX je podstatne rozezranejsi ma pamet. Pokud NEPOUZIVAM
Zcela nepochybne.
> - Komprese DOST zpomaluje. Je sice mozne nastavit, ze komprese se bude
> provadet s nejmensi prioritou, v noci a ja jeste nevim co, ale faktem
> zustava, ze kdyz potrebuji nejaky soubor, ktery je zkomprimovany, tak
> jej potrebuji nejpozdeji IHNED. No a pokud je nas takovych vice...
> Tak se disk muze umlatit, a pamet muze nestacit.
To bych jim nevycital. Tohle je proste jen moznost a mate svobodnou
volbu. Bud tuto feature vubec nepouzijete, a nebo ano, ale pak implicitne
souhlasite s nasledky ...
> - Celkova odezva systemu se mi zda ponekud pomalejsi (Zde se ale
> priznavam, ze muze jit o subjektivni dojem, dale ani hardware, ktery
> pouzivame neni asi dnes to prave orechove 486 50 DX2 16 MB RAM).
To spada do vyse zminene rozezranosti. Diky vetsim celkovym narokum
systemu na pamet ji zbyva mene na cache (a na tech je vykon Netware zcela
zavisly), diky zavedenemu systemu ochrany pameti (k kdyz jen volitelnemu)
dochazi i k vyssim narokum na vykon procesoru.
> - Verze 4.XY nijak vyrazne nezlepsila HROZNOU spravu sdilenych CD ROM
> na siti. Jestli nekdo zkousel sdilet CD ROMku na novelackem serveru,
A to jste ani nepripomel, ze po dobu mountovani je server zatizen natolik,
ze nikdo po siti vlastne nemuze pracovat (obcas se dokonce spojeni
rozpadne kvuli timeoutu).
> Proc o tom ale vlastne pisi?
> Rozhodne nechci zacit polemizovat o produktu jako takovem. Verim, ze
> produkt jako takovy je asi 'lepsi' a modernejsi nez jeho predchudci, ale...
Produkt je modernejsi. To jestli je lepsi je potreba posuzovat v kontextu
potreb a tak se obavam, ze vetsina uzivatelu Netware muze s cistym
svedomim prohlasit, ze 4,X je horsi. A to proste proto, ze pro ne nove
vymozenosti nejsou podstatne a tak nedokazi vyvazit zhorseni v
ukazatelich ktere nutne zajimaji kazdeho (rychlost, hardwarove naroky,
sprava systemu). Jestlize totiz byl 3.x (jak Novell tvrdi) nedostatecny
pro rozsahle, mnoha-serverove site, pak jej tam asi prilis nepouzivali. A
tak je mezi klienty Novelu pravdepodobne vetsina uzivatelu s
jedno (nemo nekolika malo) serverovymi sitemi a pro ty je (vyjimky
pripoustim) 4.x zhorsenim nebo alespon ne-zlepsenim ...
> Firma Novell udelala opravdu pekne gesto, kdyz pro skolstvi zavedla opravdu
> slusne ceny. Vsechna cest! Ale...
> Ale tyto ceny se vztahuji na verzi 4.1.
> Takze otazka - lze sehnat 'STAROU BLBOU 3.12 pro 50 uzivatelu' za cenu,
> za kterou nam chce Novell prodat 'SUPERMODERNI VLAJKOVOU LOD' ?
> (Nezpochybnuji pravo firmy Novell na tento krok - ten je zcela legitimni
> i kdyz asi ponekud nestandardni)
To neni tak vyjimecne gesto ...
Neni potreba slozite uvahy k myslence, ze je pravdepodobne, ze po te, co
clovek opusti skolu a nastoupi nekam do zamestnani, bude daleko spise
doporucovat produkt, ktery zna nez produkt, ktery videl pouze na
reklamach. A tak si nedelejme iluze o lasce ke vzdelani od dalsich
pohnutek odtrzene a hledejme zde duvod k tomu, aby skoro kazdy vetsi
vyrobce cehokoliv mel pro skolstvi bud peknejsi ceny, nebo jim sve
produkty dokonce poskytoval darem. (Vubec se nesnazim naznacit, ze tim ze
to delaji z jinych nez ciste dobrocinnych pohnutek, je to spatne).
A proc zrovna 4.1, to je take pochopitelne. Pokud si vzpomenete, na
zacatku byla skutecne 3.x lacinejsi nez 4.x. A 4.x proste nesla na odbyt.
Z vyse uvedenych duvodu ji asi nikdo nechtel. Je hloupe, pokud si firma
konkuruje sama sobe a navic, pokud ma starsi vyrobek lepsi vysledky (a
vysvetlujte svym akcionarum, ze ty strasne penize na vyvoj se vyhodili
omylem na neco co malo kdo chce ...) lze ocekavat, ze podnikne nejake
kroky. Jedine co je na fe Novell hodne v teto souvislosti k oceneni je
to, ze nestahuje 3.12 z prodeje a prodava jej paralerne s 4.x, i kdyz
srovnalo ceny. A to ze se nenapadne snazi prosazovat 4.x je asi
pochopitelne. No, a co se skolstvi tyce, berte to tak, ze kdyz skola
dostava dar, je to casto (ne vzdy) zbozi pouzite, nebo na normalnim trhu
mene konkurence schopne. A tak dostavate darem slevu na 4.x a ne na neco
jineho ...
ZKuste to udelat tak, ze najdete firmu kde planuji prechod z 3.x na 4.x a
starou 3.12 vam daruji (pokud vim, tohle licencni podminku umoznuji) -
jejich dar pak bude spocivat v tom, ze si misto upgrade poridi plnou
verzi ...
> stare zbozi je levnejsi nez nove a moderni. Nebo ze by labuti pisen
> firmy Novell na poli Netware?
To je docela pravdepodobne, protoze s jejich obchodni politikou a
pristupem k zakaznikovi (na odpoved na prosebny dopis z prosince 93 cekam
dodnes), kdy se chovaji jako by byli stale nenahraditelni (a je potreba
videt, ze v jiste dobe konkurenci nemeli), pravdepodobne zpusobi, ze se
stale vice podniku ale i skol odkloni od Netware k necemu jinemu a tam je
horkym kandidatem Microsoft ...
> Poznamka:
> Vahal jsem, zda tento prispevek poslat do verejne diskuze. Ale jelikoz
> me tento problem tizi jiz delsi dobu, jsem zvedavy na Vase reakce,
> zkusenosti,...
Pokud chcete diskutovat o technickych podrobnostech, je lepsi
novell@ksvi.ms.mff.cuni.cz
Pokud ale spise o etice, pricinach a nasledcich takoveho jednani tak
to jiste lze i tady ...
Dan Lukes, Patkova 3/B1206, Praha 8, Czech Republic
tel +42-(2)-8551040 ext 776, E-Mail: LUKES(or Postmaster)@Menza.MFF.CUNI.CZ
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:50:25 +0200
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From: Radomir Palovsky
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Hledam nekoho, kdo umi programovat pro SUNovske prostredi XView. Potrebuji
zmenit font v listu na neproporcionalni, a ani XView Programing Manual z
rady knih O'Reillyho o X Windows to neresi jen nepresne naznacuje.
Diky za kazdou informaci
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E-mail: palovsky@vse.cz Department of Information and
Knowledge Engineering
Phone: (+42 2) 24222600 W. Churchill Sq. 4
(+42 2) 24095463 CZ-130 67 Prague 3
Czech Republic
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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:49:34 +0000
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From: iVoS LuKaCoViC
Organization: Seznam tech nejlepsich stranek u nas
Subject: Seznam tech nejlepsich WWW stranek u nas
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Dobry den
Predem se omlouvam za off-topic.
Velice rad bych vsechny priznivce teto konference pozval na navstevu
Seznamu tech nejlepsich WWW stranek u nas.
http://www.seznam.cz
S pozdravem
iVo Lukacovic
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 15:01:06 +0200
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From: petr prenghy
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Na tento email musim reagovat slovy - "Navstivte original na adrese
http://www.uzdroje.cz/ ,k ktery tu je jiz pul roku a dostane se k vam
nesrovnatelne rychleji"ktery
On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, iVoS LuKaCoViC wrote:
> Dobry den
>
> Predem se omlouvam za off-topic.
>
> Velice rad bych vsechny priznivce teto konference pozval na navstevu
> Seznamu tech nejlepsich WWW stranek u nas.
>
> http://www.seznam.cz
>
> S pozdravem
>
> iVo Lukacovic
>
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 21:49:41 +0200
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From: Daniel Docekal
Subject: Re: Seznam tech nejlepsich WWW stranek u nas
In-Reply-To:
In , on 04/30/96 at 03:01
PM,
petr prenghy said:
>Na tento email musim reagovat slovy - "Navstivte original na adrese
>http://www.uzdroje.cz/ ,k ktery tu je jiz pul roku a dostane se k vam
>nesrovnatelne rychleji"ktery
A ktery napriklad udrzuje odkazy na http://www.codalan.cz ve velice spatne
podobe a pokud chci poslat mail lidem co jsou uvedeni odkazem MAILTO primo
na uvedenych strankach tak se dozvim ze "uzivatel neexistuje".
Sorry, ale mam jinou predstavu o "nesrovnatelne rychlejsim" a "jiz pul
roku fungujicim" www miste :(
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Daniel Docekal, anarchis@mbox.vol.cz, daniel@mail.codalan.cz,
codalan@login.cz, http://www.codalan.cz, ftp://ftp.codalan.cz Computer
Data a.s., everything i do i do with OS/2, Czech OS/2 User Group chairman,
hardware, software, internet, AskOS/2
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