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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 13:29:22 GMT
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:47:39 +001
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From: Pavel Behal
Organization: Opf Karvina
Subject: Antivir pro Novell 4.1
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Dobry den,
nevim nakolik subj. souvisi s tematem diskuse, ale mam maly dotaz. Na
nasi fakultni siti chceme (a potrebujeme) vybavit nase Novell 4.1
servery nejakym antivirakem. Rad bych se dozvedel jake jsou s
timto problemem zkusenosti a ktery antivirak by byl nejlepsi.
Nejlepe kdyby byl specialne pro 4.1 a vyse, mnel pravidelny upgrade
a multilicenci pro skolstvi.
Dekuji
Pavel Behal, behal@opf.slu.cz
network administrator
Faculty of Business Administration
Silesian University
Czech Republic
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:30:53 MET+1
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From: Radovan Smerda
Organization: Ostravska Universita
Subject: Netscape v cestine
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Dobry den,
existuje Nescape v ceske verzi?
pokud ano, kde se da sehnat?
Radovan Smerda
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:06:18 +100
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From: Josef Vlasak
Subject: Re: Netscape v cestine
> Dobry den,
> existuje Nescape v ceske verzi?
> pokud ano, kde se da sehnat?
>
> Radovan Smerda
Ano, Infima v Praze vyrobila ceskou verzi, v distribuci ma byt snad
od brezna.
Josef Vlasak
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 18:33:26 GMT
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From: Marek Antos
Organization: Charles University
Subject: Re: Netscape v cestine
: Ano, Infima v Praze vyrobila ceskou verzi, v distribuci ma byt snad
: od brezna.
Da se tusim stahnout uz ted a zadarmo, aspon ja jsem to tak udelal. Presne
URL si nepamatuju, vymailoval jsem si ho s Infimou, ale zrejme to bylo na
VSE.
A propos, stejne jsem zustal u anglicke verze. Nejak jsem si uz nemohl
zvyknout.
Zdravi,
Marek Antos
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:30:23 -0600
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From: "Ing. Valach Vladimir"
Subject: Re: Antivir pro Novell 4.1
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Dobry den.
>evim nakolik subj. souvisi s tematem diskuse, ale mam maly dotaz. Na
>nasi fakultni siti chceme (a potrebujeme) vybavit nase Novell 4.1
>servery nejakym antivirakem. Rad bych se dozvedel jake jsou s
>timto problemem zkusenosti a ktery antivirak by byl nejlepsi.
>Nejlepe kdyby byl specialne pro 4.1 a vyse, mnel pravidelny upgrade
>a multilicenci pro skolstvi.
Dobry antivirovy system obsahuje aj MANAGEWISE 2.1.
Je optimalizovany pre platformu 4.1 (4.11, kayak),
ma pravidelny update na http://support.novell.com ,
existuju multilicencne zlavy pre rezort skolstva (VLA pripadne CLA)
Bohuzial nie je to len antivirus ...
Vladimir Valach
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:05:18 +0100
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From: Servis - Dan Lukes
Organization: FIO a.s., Senovazne namesti 24
Subject: Internet jako jeden pocitac
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Vazeni kolegove, dovoluji si vasi pozornost obratit smerem k
projetu, ktery v teto chvili probiha na Svycarske Curisske
polytechnice (The Swiss Federal Institute of Technology at Z=FCrich).
Jedna se o "sestrojeni" stroje velkeho vypocetniho vykonu z mnoha
"malych a beznych" pocitacu, ktere jsou pripojeny k internetu. V teto
chvili je z onoho mista koordinovano cca 3500 pocitacu pracujicich na
rozlusteni zpravy sifrovane 48bitovym klicem sifry RC5. Sifrovane
zpravy pro tento projekt vygenerovala sama americka RSA, Inc, ktera
je garantuje, ze nikdo nepovolany nezna obsah desifrovanych zprav.
Pokud jste nekdo ochoten do tohoto projektu zapojit i svuj
pocitac potrebujete pouze pripojeni k Internetu a prislusny klientsky
software, ktery prijme zadani, spocita a preda vysledky. Program lze
ziskat ve zdrojove forme na anonymnim
ftp://ftp://ftp.tik.ee.ethz.ch/pub/projects/dic/client-v5.3.tgz
pripadne ve forme jiz prelozenych spustitelnych kody pro vetsinu
hlavnich OS a take M$Windows v adresari /pub/projects/dic/binaries
tehoz ftp. Pro ty, co jsou ochotni verit, ze jsem s programy nijak
nemanipuloval mohu jeste nabidnout mirror
ftp://ftp.kolej.mff.cuni.cz/RC5.
Pokus smeruje jednak k vlastnimu overeni jakych vykonu lze timto
zpusobem dosahnout (v teto chvili dosahuji vykonu ~300 mil.
klicu/sec), jednak chteji timto zpusobem overit bezpecnost v soucasne
chvili pouzivanych sifer (RC5 s 40ti bitovym klicem, tedy maximalne
bezpecnou sifru, kterou jeste dovoluji vyvazet mimo USA rozlustili v
lednu s pouzitim 1200 pocitacu za 3,5 hodiny).
Program bezi s nejnizsi moznou prioritou a vyuziva tedy jen ten cas
procesoru, pro ktery neni jineho vyuziti, pro svuj beh nevyzaduje
zadna zvlastni prava a nedochazi pri nem k takrka zadne sitove
komunikaci (cca 4 UDP pakety kazdych 30 minut - predavani zadani a
vysledku). Program je take pametove nenarocny, celkova velikost je
cca 300kB (podle platformy), ale behem vypoctu zustava v pameti jen
cca 40kB cast, zbytek jsou zridka pouzivane komunikacni rutiny.
Nemusite se tedy obavat, ze by vas jeho provoz presprilis obtezoval.
Podotykam, ze nema smysl na jednom pocitaci spoustet program
vicekrat, nez kolik ma pocitac CPU ;-), takze pokud byste tak chteli
ucinit na nejakem verejnem stroji, overte si, zda jiz nebezi ...
Blizsi informace o projektu muzete ziskat:
http://fh28.fa.umist.ac.uk/~challenge
http://www.tik.ee.ethz.ch/~chall/
http://www.klammeraffe.org/challenge/
a take http://www.rsa.com/rsalabs/97challenge/.
V pripade vylusteni venuje RSA penezitou odmenu, kterou organizatori
dale venuji na projekt Gutenberg (elektronicka knihovna na internetu).
Dan
* Dan Lukes, dan@kolej.mff.cuni.cz, {post|web}master@kolej.mff.cuni.cz
Patkova 3/B1206, 182 02 Praha 8, tel 8551040 l. 776
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:24:39 +0100
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From: Servis - Dan Lukes
Organization: FIO a.s., Senovazne namesti 24
Subject: Internet jako jeden pocitac
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> Vazeni kolegove, dovoluji si vasi pozornost obratit smerem k
> projetu, ktery v teto chvili probiha na Svycarske Curisske
Je to takrka schizofrenicke, reagovat na vlastni dopisy, ale ...
1) omlouvam se vsem, kteri marne kontakotovali mnou uvedeny cesky
mirror a vlivem chybne nastavenych prav nedostali nic,
2) zmineny projekt byl jen 167 minut po mem ohlaseni uspesne ukoncen
desifrovanim zadane zpravy. Prestoze jsem to nemohl vedet (byli
jen tesne za polovinou prostoru klicu), omlouvam se vsem, co
venovali svuj cas na vec jiz takrka hotovou. Ziskani klice ke
zprave zasifrovane 265x bezpecneji nez je maximalni bezpecnost
algoritnu povolenych k vyvozu z USA trvalo bande nadsenych amateru
necelych 313 hodin. Je pravdepodobne, ze projekt bude zanedlouho
pokracovat nad jeste 265x bezpecnejsi zpravou (klic delky 56bitu),
v tom pripade o tom sem dam, tentokrat jiz velice kratkou, noticku.
Jeste jednou se omlouvam tem, kteri se snazili pomoci v dobe, kdy to
uz takrka nebylo potreba.
Dan
Dan Lukes (FIO holding, a.s.)
Fax: +42 2 24102301 Phone: +42 2 24102229
root, webmaster, postmaster and othermaster of FIONet
AKA: dan@obluda.kolej.mff.cuni.cz, lukes@menza.mff.cuni.cz
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:38:00 +0100
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From: Vladislav Cerny
Subject: Psion
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Nevite prosim, zda existuje (urcite ano) konference o PDA Series 3.x fy Psion?
Pripadne URL na archiv SW pro tento PDA?
Dekuji
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Vladislav Cerny
e-Mail: black@cit.cdrail.cz CD s.o. CIT o.z.
Web : http://www.cit.cdrail.cz/Black/ Susicka 25
Tel. : +42 19 2122372 307 02 Plzen
Czech republic
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:45:01 +0100
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From: JANDOVA Marcela
Subject: PD programy pro Solaris 2.5
Mili pratele,
poradi mi nekdo zda jeste existuji predkompilovane programy jako gcc, bison
atd. pro Solaris 2.5? Kdysi to byl balik Cygnus, ale je to uz davno a v podobe
jak ji znam nemuzu nic najit (ale to bylo pro Solaris 2-1). Mam tu Sun Sparc 20
se Solarisem 2.5 a potrebovala bych preklenout obdobi nez budeme mit finance na
nakup kompilatoru c,fortran atd. alespon gcc a f2c, ale vsechno co jsem zatim
nasla, predpokladalo, ze uz je nejake cecko nainstalovano. Takze bud to vubec
nejde nebo to delam uplne spatne. Prosim zkusenejsi o radu.
Diky a zdravi Marcela
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:45:37 GMT+01DST
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From: "Macek David - IN,,student,UID=15447"
Organization: University of Economics, Prague, CZ
Subject: Sifrovani
Zdravim vsechny!
Mel bych na Vas prosbu. Netusite nekdo, kde by bylo mozne najit
nejake algoritmy pro sifrovani. Budu vdecny za odkazy na WWW,
literaturu, prikladky (demoprogramy) atd. Zaroven bych rad pozadal
ty, kteri znaji nejake anti-debug mechanismy v assembleru, aby se se
mnou o ne podelili. Nabizim za to dat k dispozici ucelenou praci
(diplomku) na toto tema.
Diky moc a preji hezky den
David Macek
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:44:45 GMT
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From: Martin Vobr
Organization: VSE na Zizkove
Subject: Re: Psion
Vladislav Cerny (black@cit.cdrail.cz) wrote:
: Nevite prosim, zda existuje (urcite ano) konference o PDA Series 3.x fy Psion?
: Pripadne URL na archiv SW pro tento PDA?
: Dekuji
v newsech jsou to zejmena skupiny:
comp.binaries.psion
comp.sys.psion.announce
comp.sys.psion.apps
comp.sys.psion.marketplace
comp.sys.psion.misc
comp.sys.psion.programmer
comp.sys.psion.reviews
Pokud je vas NNTP server nenabizi, domluvte se s adminsitratorem, urcite
neni problem je take odebirat.
Doufam, ze to pomuze
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:06:00 GMT
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From: Stanislav Kolar
Organization: University of West Bohemia
Subject: Re: Sifrovani
XMACD01@ST.VSE.CZ (Macek David - IN,,student,UID=15447) wrote:
>Zaroven bych rad pozadal
>ty, kteri znaji nejake anti-debug mechanismy v assembleru, aby se se
>mnou o ne podelili.
OK - neco anti-debug figlu (vcetne anti-anti-debug ;-) bych mel...
O co ti presne jde ?
Bye Standa K. (kolar@zcu.cz)
(FIDO: 2:423/44.25)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 10:14:57 +0100
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From: Martin Winzig
Organization: Czech Technical University
Subject: ANTI DEBUG
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No jde o celou sadu figlu ktera je byt zalozena na tom ze
1)Pracuje s frontou instrukci -zmneni nqsledujici instrukci a protoze
procesor ma ve fronte instrukci ulozenou puvodni instrukci jenze
DEBUGER frontu instrukci neimplementuje narozdil od vsech ANTIVIROVYCH
programu na HEURISTICKOU ANALYZU
2)Dalsi spusob je maskovani preruseni treba docasne zablokovani
klavesnice je docela cool
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:15:05 GMT
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From: Tomas Dubinsky
Organization: VSB - TU Ostrava
Subject: nova konference
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Sorry za mozny off topic, ale chtel bych informovat o nove mail konferenci
akta_x-l@vsb.cz na adrese listserv@vsb.cz
Diky za pozornost
Tomas Dubinsky
Tomas.Dubinsky@vsb.cz
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:37:08 +0100
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From: Martin MICHAL
Subject: Re: Sifrovani
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On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Macek David - IN,,student,UID=15447 wrote:
> Zdravim vsechny!
> Mel bych na Vas prosbu. Netusite nekdo, kde by bylo mozne najit
> nejake algoritmy pro sifrovani. Budu vdecny za odkazy na WWW,
Z toho co mam v bookmarks uz funguje jen tohle:
http://ucs.byu.edu/ucs/cs460/des.htm
http://pandonia.canberra.edu.au/ClientServer/week3/security.html
Ale kdyz si z toho pujcite nejaka klicova slova a dosadite
treba do hledace http://altavista.digital.com tak toho najdete mraky.
Jeste me napada ze program PGP se distribuuje s popisem a zdrojaky,
a ma v sobe "Public key encrypting" i "Conventional encrypting"...
Martin MICHAL
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 14:03:12 +0100
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From: Matus Uhlar
Subject: taka mensia srandicka
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Dobry den,
vyskusal som vlastnosti programu gzip.
tento suborik sa mi podarilo 3x zabalit na mensiu velkost.
Asi je v gzipe chyba a bude ho treba upgradnut...
posielam mail autorom :)
begin 644 zeroes.gz.gz.gz
M'XL( !X/ S, Y/OYF!HX&,V9F!^>W>CEU.AQ+&'^^<8>TR0NO)DPG2!+3LX
M=NW88G%EEJ6%5T"T ->C*TJ.UR]>8=UBNBW2NX)1\.$#%5G+YV)^!0+SGG/5
MB7_X5'N<_^FGOW4E4HMV/SS[]8-9S?YI7HHM)_^\_[E\CS@#!#3(FO^%U)0487M_9DA7ML9>E,NOA6598:*/C%;$?:HA-O@YI?7:#$! "N
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 22:48:14 +0100
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From: Dan Lukes
Organization: Obludarium
Subject: Re: Sifrovani
Dne 12 Feb 97 v 11:45, Macek David - IN,,student,UID uvedl(a):
> Mel bych na Vas prosbu. Netusite nekdo, kde by bylo mozne najit
> nejake algoritmy pro sifrovani. Budu vdecny za odkazy na WWW,
Neco by se asi dalo najit na http://www.kolej.mff.cuni.cz/prednes/oipage.htm
To je elektronicke vteleni script k prednasce (nejen) o sifrovani.
Spousta zajimavych informaci a odkazu byla i na www.army.cz, ale od te doby,
co jim to nejaky pitomec hacknul to zrusili (jo, nejdriv jsem se taky bavil,
ale ted, vida nasledek, me to spis ...).
Dan
Dan Lukes, Patkova 3/B1206, Praha 8, Czech Republic
tel +42-(2)-8551040 ext 776, E-Mail: dan@obluda.kolej.mff.cuni.cz,
aka: LUKES(or Postmaster)@Menza.MFF.CUNI.CZ and others
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 01:27:03 +0100
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From: Tonda Benes
Organization: Obludarium
Subject: Re: Sifrovani
> Mel bych na Vas prosbu. Netusite nekdo, kde by bylo mozne najit
> nejake algoritmy pro sifrovani. Budu vdecny za odkazy na WWW,
Zacal jsem si sepisovat odkazy na podobny veci. Seznam zatim je spis
malej, ale odkazuje na osobni seznam Rona Rivesta. To mas cteni aspon
na pul roku. Navstiv server Obludarium -
http:/obluda.kolej.mff.cuni.cz/
a z hlavniho menu se prober odkazy "Vlastni tvorba" a nasledne
"Tondova kryptograficka stranka".
Tonda
Tonda Benes * Department of Software Engineering
Faculty of Mathematics and Physics * Charles University Praha
Post: KSI MFF UK, Malostranske nam.25, 110 00 Praha, Czech Republic
E-mail: benes@ksi.ms.mff.cuni.cz * tel: +42 (2) 8551042 ext.776
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 08:39:38 +0000
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From: Petr Vodicka
Organization: MZLU Brno
Subject: Award BIOS a hslo
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Vazeni,
pri zaheslovani CMOS-ky u tohoto typu BIOSu se projevuje jedna
dosti neprijemna 'vlastnost'. Pokud zadam univerzalni heslo AWARD_SW,
tak se do CMOS setupu (ci do systemu jako takoveho) dostanu heslo
neheslo. Pripada mi to jako jista zadni vratka, ktera si udelal autor jisteho
sw pro prisup kamkoliv.
Nevite prosim co s tim?
Radu, ze mam dany pocitac zamknout do mistnosti nepotrebuji :-)
Diky a s pozdravem P.V.
Petr Vodicka
vodicka@vszbr.cz
Mendelova Zemedelska a Lesnicka Univerzita
UVT
Zemedelska 1
61300 Brno 13
tel. 05-4513 5052
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:27:24 -0100
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From: Bohumil Chalupa
Subject: Re: Award BIOS a hslo
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On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Petr Vodicka wrote:
> pri zaheslovani CMOS-ky u tohoto typu BIOSu se projevuje jedna
> dosti neprijemna 'vlastnost'. Pokud zadam univerzalni heslo AWARD_SW,
> tak se do CMOS setupu (ci do systemu jako takoveho) dostanu heslo
> neheslo.
Jak se tohleto "normalni clovek" dovi (pokud mu to nekdo nenapise
do listu)?
Zdravi
Bohumil Chalupa
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:39:10 +0100
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Organization: Czech Technical University
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To jeste neni vsechno, "AWARD_SW" je uz druhe univerzalni heslo co na
muj
BIOS funguje. Jeste muzu pouzit "concat". Samozrejme, ze mam nastavene
treti heslo uplne jine nez ty dve vyse uvedene. Zatim jsem zkousel heslo
"concat" a par pocitacich ke kterym jsem se dostal a zjistil jsem ze
nejde pouzit na nektere s pentiem. Bohuzel si nepamatuju, jaka je na
nich
verze Award BIOSu. Vim ho od jednoho kolegy, ktery se to dozvedel, kdyz
se
mu pry jeden student na cviceni hrabal v BIOSu.
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:10:24 +0000
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From: Petr Vodicka
Organization: MZLU Brno
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> On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Petr Vodicka wrote:
>
> > pri zaheslovani CMOS-ky u tohoto typu BIOSu se projevuje jedna
> > dosti neprijemna 'vlastnost'. Pokud zadam univerzalni heslo AWARD_SW,
> > tak se do CMOS setupu (ci do systemu jako takoveho) dostanu heslo
> > neheslo.
>
> Jak se tohleto "normalni clovek" dovi (pokud mu to nekdo nenapise
> do listu)?
Od studentu :-))))
Ale vazne - patrne v nejakem specializovanem news-listu
S pozdravem P.V.
Petr Vodicka
vodicka@vszbr.cz
Mendelova Zemedelska a Lesnicka Univerzita
UVT
Zemedelska 1
61300 Brno 13
tel. 05-4513 5052
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:02:04 GMT
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From: Eduard Vopicka
Organization: Prague University of Economics
Subject: Re: Award BIOS a heslo
Jiri Sika (sika@notorola.sh.cvut.cz) wrote:
: To jeste neni vsechno, "AWARD_SW" je uz druhe univerzalni heslo co na
: muj
: BIOS funguje. Jeste muzu pouzit "concat". Samozrejme, ze mam nastavene
: treti heslo uplne jine nez ty dve vyse uvedene. Zatim jsem zkousel heslo
: "concat" a par pocitacich ke kterym jsem se dostal a zjistil jsem ze
: nejde pouzit na nektere s pentiem. Bohuzel si nepamatuju, jaka je na
: nich
: verze Award BIOSu. Vim ho od jednoho kolegy, ktery se to dozvedel, kdyz
: se
: mu pry jeden student na cviceni hrabal v BIOSu.
Dalsi backdoor password pro AWARD je "lkwpeter". Pouzival jsem ho
asi na trech typech boardu s AWARDem. Vcetne meho domaciho PA-2005,
kde ale asi po tretim upgrade BIOSu lkwpeter fungovat prestalo. OK,
ted zkusim AWARD_SW a concat...
Eduard Vopicka
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:30:16 +0100
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From: Dan Lukes
Organization: Obludarium
Subject: Re: Award BIOS a hslo
Dne 14 Feb 97 v 11:10, Petr Vodicka uvedl(a):
> > > dosti neprijemna 'vlastnost'. Pokud zadam univerzalni heslo AWARD_SW,
> > Jak se tohleto "normalni clovek" dovi (pokud mu to nekdo nenapise
> Od studentu :-))))
> Ale vazne - patrne v nejakem specializovanem news-listu
No a pokud smerovala otazka jak tahle informace vubec vznikne (tedy na
primarni zdroj), tak bud unikem od firmy, nebo firma takovou informaci
za urcitych informaci poskytuje (prodava), a nebo nekoho zajima jak takovy
BIOS funguje, tak vezme nektery z mnoha disassembleru a pri analyze tam
takovehle veci najdete tak nejak mimochodem ...
Dan
Dan Lukes, Patkova 3/B1206, Praha 8, Czech Republic
tel +42-(2)-8551040 ext 776, E-Mail: dan@obluda.kolej.mff.cuni.cz,
aka: LUKES(or Postmaster)@Menza.MFF.CUNI.CZ and others
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:49:08 +0100
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From: Matus Uhlar
Organization: Slovak Academic Network Kosice
Subject: Re: Sifrovani
In cz.net.csinfo Macek David - IN,,student,UID=15447 wrote:
-> Mel bych na Vas prosbu. Netusite nekdo, kde by bylo mozne najit
-> nejake algoritmy pro sifrovani. Budu vdecny za odkazy na WWW,
-> literaturu, prikladky (demoprogramy) atd. Zaroven bych rad pozadal
-> ty, kteri znaji nejake anti-debug mechanismy v assembleru, aby se se
-> mnou o ne podelili. Nabizim za to dat k dispozici ucelenou praci
-> (diplomku) na toto tema.
hmmm tieto mechanizmy vyuzivaju maximalne tak chyby v procesoroch alebo v
debuggeroch. na chyby v debuggeroch sa da prist a na chybu v processore sa
najst vhodny debugger ktory ju emuluje...
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:46:42 +0100
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From: Matus Uhlar
Organization: Slovak Academic Network Kosice
Subject: Re: PD programy pro Solaris 2.5
In cz.net.csinfo JANDOVA Marcela wrote:
-> poradi mi nekdo zda jeste existuji predkompilovane programy jako gcc, bison
-> atd. pro Solaris 2.5? Kdysi to byl balik Cygnus, ale je to uz davno a v podobe
-> jak ji znam nemuzu nic najit (ale to bylo pro Solaris 2-1). Mam tu Sun Sparc 20
-> se Solarisem 2.5 a potrebovala bych preklenout obdobi nez budeme mit finance na
-> nakup kompilatoru c,fortran atd. alespon gcc a f2c, ale vsechno co jsem zatim
-> nasla, predpokladalo, ze uz je nejake cecko nainstalovano. Takze bud to vubec
-> nejde nebo to delam uplne spatne. Prosim zkusenejsi o radu.
na ccnews.ke.sanet.sk su nejake baliky per solaris 2.4 ale malo by to ist aj
na 2.5 :) a je to pre SUNy... hladajte /pub/solaris/2.4bin
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:17:44 +0100
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From: Milos Rysavy
Subject: netfind
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Zdravim vsechny. Nevite, prosim, nekdo, co je s libereckym
Netfindem? Uz nejmene tri tydny mi vraci pouze sdeleni
"Netfind is being reconfigured .... Maybe some other time ...".
Vzhledem k tomu prubehovemu casu 'is being' mi to pripada
skoro dost dlouho :-)
S pozdravem
m.r.
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:15:55 MET
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From: Pavel Svoboda
Subject: Re: netfind
In-Reply-To: ;
from "Milos Rysavy" at Feb 18, 97 8:17 am
>
> Zdravim vsechny. Nevite, prosim, nekdo, co je s libereckym
> Netfindem? Uz nejmene tri tydny mi vraci pouze sdeleni
> "Netfind is being reconfigured .... Maybe some other time ...".
> Vzhledem k tomu prubehovemu casu 'is being' mi to pripada
> skoro dost dlouho :-)
No me v anglictine ucili, ze prubehovy cas pouzivame tam,
kde dej probiha a lze ocekavat pokracovani deje i v blizke
budoucnosti... ;-)
Pavel Svoboda
svoboda@mag.mff.cuni.cz
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:45:04 +0100
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From: Matus Uhlar
Organization: Slovak Academic Network Kosice
Subject: Re: Internet jako jeden pocitac
In cz.net.csinfo Servis - Dan Lukes wrote:
-> 1) omlouvam se vsem, kteri marne kontakotovali mnou uvedeny cesky
-> mirror a vlivem chybne nastavenych prav nedostali nic,
este som sa tam ani nenapojil a uz to nejde ? :)
-> 2) zmineny projekt byl jen 167 minut po mem ohlaseni uspesne ukoncen
-> desifrovanim zadane zpravy. Prestoze jsem to nemohl vedet (byli
-> jen tesne za polovinou prostoru klicu), omlouvam se vsem, co
-> venovali svuj cas na vec jiz takrka hotovou. Ziskani klice ke
-> zprave zasifrovane 265x bezpecneji nez je maximalni bezpecnost
-> algoritnu povolenych k vyvozu z USA trvalo bande nadsenych amateru
-> necelych 313 hodin. Je pravdepodobne, ze projekt bude zanedlouho
-> pokracovat nad jeste 265x bezpecnejsi zpravou (klic delky 56bitu),
-> v tom pripade o tom sem dam, tentokrat jiz velice kratkou, noticku.
bude na to treba novu verziu tohoto sw ?
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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 08:43:00 +0100
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From: Shooter
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Subject: JAN SAUDEK
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I'm looking for Internet adresses where I can get Jan Saudek's photo.
Can anybody help?
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:40:42 +0100
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From: "RNDr.Jindrich Jindrich CSc."
Subject: Open Architecture Handbook for Pascal (from Borland)?
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Dobry den,
marne se snazim sehnat vyse jmenovanou knihu. Borland uz ji nema na
sklade, tak jsem se chtel poptat jestli by nekdo nevedel kde ji sehnat.
Pokud by ji snad nekdo primo mel a chtel se ji zbavit, rad ji odkoupim.
Diky
Jindrich
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:25:29 MET-1MEST
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From: Vojtech Smolik
Organization: Palacky Univ. Rector's Office
Subject: Re: JAN SAUDEK
> I'm looking for Internet adresses where I can get Jan Saudek's photo.
>
> Can anybody help?
>
You would be well advised to use the URL address
http://www.atlas.cz/
(Fulltextove vyhledavani v Ceskem Internetu)
With best wishes Vojtech Smolik
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 16:06:07 +0100
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From: Jaroslav Brandis
Subject: ftp - rekurzivne
In-Reply-To: <330C0084.144B@imrnov.saske.sk> from "Shooter" at Feb 20,
97 08:43:00 am
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Zdravim...
Neviem ci to sem patri, ale ako sa daju cez unix-ftp stiahnut subory rekurzivne ?
to jest - stiahnut aj directory+subory, ktore sa nachadzaju v nizsich
urovniach urcitej directory.
--
Vdaka ....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+-------------> BRANDIS Jaroslav <---------------+
| Computing Centre of Slovak Academy of Science |
| Dubravska cesta 9, 842 35 BRATISLAVA |
+-------------------------------------------------+
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+-------------------------------------------------+
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:43:17 PST
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From: Jiri Cap
Organization: FNSPE
Subject: nova vyhledavaci sluzba v ceskem Internetu - ATLAS
X-To: net@cs.felk.cvut.cz
Dobry den,
na adrese http://www.atlas.cz je k dispozici nova vyhledavaci
sluzba v ceskem Internetu. Na teto adrese je k dispozici full-text
search, katalogove cleneni odkazu, uls server pro netmeeting, hlasove
a videokonference a databaze emailovych adres pristupna i pres LDAP
protokol.
Protoze server je v testovacim provozu, je dostupny pouze v
CP 1250, podpora dalsich CP bude nasledovat v nejblizsi dobe.
Jiri Cap
PS: omlouvam se vsem, kteri dostali tuto zpravu vicekrat
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:55:46 +0100
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Organization: PragoData a.s.
Subject: Re: ftp - rekurzivne
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On 20 Feb 1997, Jaroslav Brandis wrote:
> Zdravim...
> Neviem ci to sem patri, ale ako sa daju cez unix-ftp stiahnut subory
> rekurzivne ? to jest - stiahnut aj directory+subory, ktore sa
> nachadzaju v nizsich urovniach urcitej directory.
> --
> Vdaka ....
Zkuste program ncftp.
Hanus Adler
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Public PGP key available by sending mail to me with Subject: send pgp
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 18:18:08 MET-1EET
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From: Petr Kolar
Organization: Technical University of Liberec
Subject: Re: netfind
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Dobry den
> Zdravim vsechny. Nevite, prosim, nekdo, co je s libereckym
> Netfindem? Uz nejmene tri tydny mi vraci pouze sdeleni
> "Netfind is being reconfigured .... Maybe some other time ...".
> Vzhledem k tomu prubehovemu casu 'is being' mi to pripada
> skoro dost dlouho :-)
Situace je takova, ze netfind byl autory natolik zmodernizovan, ze
je v podstate neprenositelny (ani na jiny pocitac s timtez OS?), takze
se ho Jirkovi Randusovi nepodarilo na zadnem dostupnem pocitaci ani
prelozit. Stara verze se starou databazi fungovala uz delsi dobu zcela
neuspokojive a s novou databazi pracovat neumi...
------------------------------- Petr Kolar -------------------------------
Department of Computer Science, Technical University of Liberec
E-mail: Petr.Kolar@vslib.cz Phone: +42-48-5227-374 Fax: +42-48-5100865
Postal: Voronezska 1329, 461 17 Liberec, Czech Republic
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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:26:00 +0100
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From: INSEKO
Subject: Help !!
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Zdravim vas vsetkych,
potrebujem pomoc s nasleducim problemom:
"podarilo" sa mi ulozit si na Novell 4.1 server niekolko dolezitych =
suborov, ktore teraz potrebujem dostat spat na lokalny disk,
nedari sa mi to z nasledovneho dovodu: vsetky tieto subory maju v svojom =
mene pismeno z-hacek a pri akomkolvek pokuse o kopirovanie alobo =
premenovanie tychto suborov dostanem hlasku, ze subor s danym menom sa =
neda najst.
Moja konfiguracia:NW 4.1 s podporou dlhych mien,
PC Win95 CZ a MS klient pre Netware.
Budem vdacny za akykolvek napad.
Roman Boba, INSEKO a.s.
roman@inseko.sk
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 15:09:06 +0100
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From: Radek Simcik
Organization: Prague University of Economics
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On 21 Feb 1997, INSEKO wrote:
> "podarilo" sa mi ulozit si na Novell 4.1 server niekolko dolezitych suborov, ktore teraz potrebujem dostat spat na lokalny disk,
> nedari sa mi to z nasledovneho dovodu: vsetky tieto subory maju v svojom mene pismeno z-hacek a pri akomkolvek pokuse o kopirovanie alobo premenovanie tychto suborov dostanem hlasku, ze subor s danym menom sa neda najst.
> Moja konfiguracia:NW 4.1 s podporou dlhych mien,
> PC Win95 CZ a MS klient pre Netware.
>
Meli jsme podobny problem. Mame Novel 4.11 + W95. Clovek, ktery mel
"noveliho" klienta neotevrel soubory, ktere obsahovaly hacky a carky a
ktere byly ulozeny na serveru MS klientem. Pomohla instalace nejnovejsiho
noveliho klineta. Ted je vse O.K. Ale stala se takova nemila vec. Pak
nefungolaly nejake programy. Duvod bude asi ten, ze pri instalaci tohoto
klienta "zmizely" nejake soubory.
doufam, ze vam to pomuze
rada
xsimr01@vse.cz
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the better for you... millions of people world-wide scan these
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(b) Old Fashioned Snail Mail : Take this information packet to your
"quick print" shop and have as many copies of each made as you can
initially afford to print. You can always print more later. (The more
copies, the bigger the discount). Send a copy of this entire package
(it is all important) to everyone whose name and address you can get
your hands on.
Start with friends and relatives since you can speak to them and
encourage them to take advantage of this marvelous money making plan.
Then as your time and finances allow, mail to anyone and everyone.
You can get names and addresses from classified ads, phone books and
other directories. You can also mail to small businesses whose
addresses are available from their ads in the Yellow Pages and other
publications. BEST OF ALL, purchase a "HOT NAME" mailing list from
any of the list of brokers whose business it is to provide all sorts
of mailing lists. You'll find that a good name list will make you
more money than you could ever imagine... it's a great investment!
(4) Orders will soon start arriving in your mailbox for each of the 4
reports. At first, just for REPORT #1, then later for #2, #3, and #4...
each of these orders will contain a US$5 bill and a self-addressed stamped
envelope for you to use to mail back the requested report. It's easy!
HERE'S HOW THIS AMAZING PLAN WILL MAKE YOU $ MONEY $ :
Let's say you decide to start small just to see how it goes and we'll
assume you and all those involved only sent out 200 packets each (either
via e-mail or via regular mail). Let's also assume that each mailing only
receives a 5% response (keep in mind that many people will send out
thousands of packets instead of only 200, but for the sake of example
here we'll stick with 200). With a 5% return that's 10 people who
participate by sending 200 each or 2,000 total. The 5% response to that
brings 100 orders. Those 100 mail out 200 each or 20,000 total. The 5%
return on 20,000 is 1,000. The 1,000 send out 200,000 total and that 5%
response will generate 10,000 five dollar bills for you... CASH! Your
total income in this example situation:
1st Level - 10 people respond out of 200 with $5 $50
2nd Level - 10 people respond to those 10 ($5 x 100) $500
3rd Level - 10 respond to the 100 ($5 x 1000) $5000
4th Level - 10 respond to those 1000 (10000 $5 bills) $50000
======
This totals to $55000
Remember friends, this is assuming that 95 out of every 100 people you
mail to, do absolutely nothing with this opportunity and trash it. Dare
to think for a moment what would happen if everyone sent out 1,000
packets instead of 200 (very easy to accomplish that via e-mail). Believe
me, many people will do just that... and more. It is to their benefit to
do so! Not a bad return for such a paltry investment of time and money.
T I P S F O R S U C C E S S
=================================
Treat this as your business. Send for the 4 reports IMMEDIATELY so you
will have them when the orders start coming in because: When you receive a
$5 order, you *must* send out the requested report to comply with the US
Postal & Lottery Laws, Title 18, Sections 1302 and 1341 or Title 39 Section
3005 in the US Code, also Code of Federal Regs. vol. 16, Sections 255 &
436 - which state that "a product or service must be exchanged for money
received".
WHILE YOU WAIT FOR YOUR REPORTS TO ARRIVE:
(1) Name your new company (or use your own name if you wish).
(2) Re-arrange the names and addresses, including yours, and affix them
under the correct report according to the directions, bumping off the 4th
name (If you will be advertising by snail mail, you might want to re-type
that whole page where the names and addresses appear, and of course include
yours at REPORT #1).
(3) Obtain as many e-mail addresses or regular snail mail addresses as you
can. If sending via snail mail, REPORT #3 (.. when you receive it in the
mail) will tell you where you can get great snail mailing lists.
(4) If sending by snail mail, make enough copies of this letter to fill your
mailing quantity.
(5) Copy the 4 reports when you do get them so you are able to send them out
right away when you receive an order.
The check point that guarantees your success is simply this: You MUST
receive 15 to 20 orders for REPORT #1! THIS IS A MUST! If you don't within
2 weeks, send out more packets until you do. Then, a couple of weeks later
you should receive at least 100 orders for REPORT #2. If you don't, send
out more packets until you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders
for REPORT #2, YOU CAN RELAX, because YOU ARE ON YOUR WAY TO $50,000!.
Also, remember, every time your name is moved down on the list you are in
front of a different report, so you can keep track of your progress by what
report people are ordering from you. "IT'S THAT EASY".
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Now, here is the list of the 4 reports and whom to order them from:
(NOTE: Always send a Self-Addressed, Stamped Envelope with US$5 cash -
concealed, of course - in your order for each report. Order each report
by name and number).
* REPORT #1: "HOW TO MAKE $250,000 THROUGH MULTI-LEVEL SALES"
. This report will give you the much needed information to help you in this
program. It will show you how you can make a quarter of a million dollars
in just 3 months. $5 cash.
Order This report from : K. Lundgren Enterprises
P.O. Box 31030, Gladstone RPO
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, B3K 5T9
* REPORT #2: "MAJOR CORPORATIONS AND MULTI-LEVEL SALES"
. Learn the money making secrets of some of the well-known corporate
giants. $5 cash.
Order this report from : MYGIA Enterprise
P.O. Box 424
Mifflinville, PA, USA 18631-0424
* REPORT #3: "SOURCES FOR THE BEST MAILING LIST"
.You have learned the importance of good mailing lists. Here is where you
can send for them. $5 cash.
Order this report from : Home Business Unlimited
1954 Norfolk Dr.
Lodi, CA, USA 95242
* REPORT #4: "EVALUATING MULTI-LEVEL SALES PROGRAMS"
. Find out which plans work, which ones don't... and why! $5 cash.
Order this report from: Bill & Carolyn Ltd.
4707 Lippi Pkwy.
Sacramento, CA, USA 95823
.. I wish you good fortune and prosperity!
Cheers!
K. Lundgren
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A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PLAN
=======================================
By the time you have read the enclosed information and looked over the
plan and the reports you should have concluded that such a plan, and one
that is legal, could not have been created by an amateur.
Let me tell you a little about myself. I began as an independent small
businessman in 1969. Using good business practices I had a profitable
business for 10 years. In 1979 my business began falling off. I was doing
the same things that were previously successful for me but now they just
weren't working.
Finally it hit me. It wasn't me. It's just that our economy had gone
crazy. Inflation and recession had replaced the stable economic growth
that had been with us since 1945. I don't have to tell you what happened to
the employment rate because many of you know from first hand experience.
There were more small business failures and bankruptcies than ever
before... Traditional methods of making money will never allow you to move
up or "get rich". Inflation will see to that.
You have just received the information that can give you financial freedom
for the rest of your life. With practically no risk and just a little bit of
effort, you can have more money in the next few months than you have ever
imagined.
I should also point out that I will not see a penny of your money or
anyone else's who participates in my plan. *This one's for you*.
I've made over FOUR MILLION DOLLARS and retired from the plan after having
sent out over 16,000 letter packets. I have moved to the rich side of the
tracks. Will you be able to say the same in six weeks ? If you send out
only one-tenth as many packets as I did, you can be a rich person.
Please follow the plan exactly as instructed. Do not change it in any way.
It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to send a copy of all
this introductory literature to everyone that you can think of. Don't feel
hesitant about sending out only a few dozen packets in the beginning. One of
the people that you send this packet to may send out 5,000 and your name
will be on every single one of them. Remember though: the more you send
out, the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I've given
you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially
independent. IT'S NOW UP TO YOU.
I am enjoying an early secure retirement on the fortune that I made by
sending out packets just like this one. You too will be making easy money
in three or four weeks... if you follow the simple steps outlined in this
mailing. To be financially independent is to be free; free to make money
decisions as you never have before, go into business, get into
investments, retire, or take a vacation. No longer will the lack of money
hold you back...
Will you ignore this amazing opportunity... or will you take advantage of
it and change the direction of your life ? If you don't think this is a
truly spectacular opportunity, then please take the time to re-read this
material. You have indeed missed something. If you have any questions,
please feel free to write the sender of this information. You'll get a
prompt and informative reply.
My method is simple. I sell thousands of people a product for $5.00 that
costs me pennies to produce and mail. Everyone involved in the program
makes money for everyone else in the program. IF ANYONE MAKES MONEY,
EVERYONE MAKES MONEY. I should also point out that this program is
completely legal. At times, you've probably received chain letters asking
you to send money but getting nothing in return - no product whatsoever.
Not only are chain letters illegal, but the risk of someone breaking the
chain makes them quite unattractive.
This plan has the effect and appeal of a chain letter, but is is legal
since you are offering a legitimate product to your people. After they
purchase the product from you, they produce more and resell the product.
It's simple free enterprise at work, THE AMERICAN WAY.
As you have learned from the enclosed material, the "PRODUCT" in this
plan is a series of four financial and business reports. The information
contained in these reports will not only help you in making your
participation in this plan more rewarding, but will be useful to you in
other business decisions you make in the years ahead. You are also buying
the rights to reprint all of the reports which will be ordered from you by
those to whom you choose to mail this packet.
The concise one and two page reports you'll be buying can easily be
reproduced at a local copy center at a cost of approximately 4 cents per
page in small quantities of 200. The price goes down considerably for
larger quatities of 1,000 or more. Of course you may want to print just
a small quantity until the money comes rolling in. You can always call your
printer with another order.
. Good luck with this plan and GOD BLESS YOU,
Edward L. Green
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:50:10 -0800
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
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From: Halsy
Organization: Erol's Internet Services
Subject: $$$ Real Cash Honest $$$
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YOU MUST BELIEVE IT,JUST TRY!!! THIS IS THE FAIREST MOST
HONEST WAY I KNOW TO SHARE THE WEALTH.
Hello!
Would you like to make thousands of dollars, quick and
legally? Then keep reading please take five minutes to read
this article it will change your life. It's true!
You can make up to or over $50,000 dollars in 4-6 weeks,
maybe sooner.
I'M NOT LYING TO YOU AND THIS IS NOT A SCAM! If you're
interested, keep reading; if you're not, have a nice day.
I was browsing around the newsgroups one day and i stumbled
across this article. Since it had to do with making money,
which I never pass on, I decided to give it a try and this is
what it said:
Here we go. A little while back, I was browsing through these
newsgroups, just like you are now and came across an article
similar to this that said you could make thousands of dollars
in a few weeks with only an initial investment of $5.00
dollars! So, I though~ "Yeah, right, must be a scam", but I
was curious, like most of us, so i kept reading. Anyway it
said that you send $1.00 to each of the five names and
addresses stated in the article. You then place your own name
and address in the article at the bottom of the list at #5,
and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups (there are
thousands). So after thinking it over, talking to a few
people first, I decided to try it.
I figured what have I got to lose except for five stamps and
$5, right? Someone who has tried it says. "I started getting
money in the mail! I was shocked I still figured it would end
soon, and didn't give it another thought. But then money kept
coming in, tripling in size and multiplying by 10-20 times
the amount that i got the first week! In my first week I made
about 20 to 30 dollars. But by the end of the second week, i
had made a total of over $1,000!!! In the third week I had
over $10,000 dollars and it's still growing. This is my
fourth week(Oct.1) and I've made about $42,000 in total, and
the money is still coming in.."
Let me tell you how this works and "lost importantly, WHY it
works... also, make sure you print a copy of this article
NOW, so you get the information off it and begin making
money.
The process is very simple, and consists of 3 EASY steps:
STEP I----- Get 5 separate pieces or paper and write the
following on each sheet of paper... "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR
MAILING LIST". It is also a good idea to put on that piece of
paper the number of the person who you got the article from.
Give $1 dollar bills and place ONE inside each piece of paper
so the bill will not be seen in the envelope (otherwise nosy
people, who like to steal envelopes with money in it will get
yours). Put one paper inside the envelope and seal it. Do the
same for all five. You should now have 5
envelopes sealed, each have a piece of paper and a $1 bill
stuffed inside of the paper. Make sure those words which were
stated above are stated on the paper What you are doing is
creating a service by doing this.
This is PERFECTLY LEGAL. Now then, mail 5 envelopes with the
paper and $1 in each to the following 5 addresses.
1. I.Volovodoysky #834 Erin Place Edmonton,Alberta Canada,T5T
1M6
2. S. Smith 52 Recall Close England, U.K BBB 7TJ
3. Foggy Tree 402 Oxford Cir. Rocky Mount VA 24151
4.Manager 3313 Walden Oaks blvd. Cortland, NY 13045, USA
5. Halsy 2302 Wodock Ave. Warrington Pa. 18976
STEP 2 -----Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above,
and move the other 4 names up (5 becoming 4, 4 becoming 3, etc.)
and put YOUR NAME as number 5 on the list. You can slightly alter
this article if you need to, editing what you need to edit.
STEP 3-----Post your amended article (with your name at #5) to at
least 200 newsgroups or (send them over ire or e-mail)
I think there are close to 18,000 of them). All you need is at
least 200. HOW TO DO THIS: lf you have Netscape 3.0 do EXACTLY
the following:
1)Click on any newsgroups like normal, THEN click on 'TO NEWS'
which is on the far left when you're in the newsgroups page. This
will bring up a box to type a message in.
2)Leave the newsgroup box like it is, CHANGE the subject to
something flashy, like, "NEED CASH $$$ READ HERE $$$" or "FAST
CASH"!!!
3)Tab once and you should be ready to type. Now, retype (only
once) This whole article WORD FOR WORD, except to insert your
name at #5, and to remove #1 off the list, plus any other small
changes you think you need to make. Keep almost all of it the
SAME!
4)When you're done typing the WHOLE article, click on FILE in
THIS BOX, RIGHT ABOVE SEND, NOT WHERE IT SAYS NETSCAPE NEWS ON
THE FIRST BOX. Click on SAVE AS when you're under FILE Save your
article as a text file to your C: or A: drive, DO NOT SEND OR
POST YOUR ARTICLE UNTIL YOU DO THIS. Once saved, move on to
numbers below.
5)lf you still have all of your text, send or post to this
newsgroup now by just clicking send, which is right below FILE
AND RIGHT ABOVE Cc:
6)HERE'S where you're going to post all 200 0K, click on any news
group then click on "TO NEWS', again in the top left corner.
Leave the NEWSGROUPSBOX alone again, put a flashy subject title
in the SUBJECT BOX, hit TAB once you're in the body of the
message, and click on ATTACHMENTS, which is below the SUBJECT
BOX. You will get another box to come up. Click on ATTACH FILE,
then find YOUR file that you saved; click once on the file, and
then click OPEN' now click on OK; if you did this right, you
should see your name in the attachments box and it will be shaded
green.
IF YOU USE IE EXPLORER IT'S JUST AS EASY...HOLDING DOWN THE LEFT
MOUSE BUTTON, HIGHLIGHT THIS ARTICLE THEN PRESS THE "CTRL" KEY
AND THE "C" KEY AT THE SAME TIME TO COPY THIS ARTICLE. THEN
PRINT THIS ARTICLE FOR YOUR RECORDS TO HAVE THE NAMES OF THOSE
YOU WILL BE SENDING $1 BILLS TO. NEXT GO TO THE NEWSGROUPS AND
PRESS "CTRL" AND THEN "V" AND THE ARTICLE WILL BE PLACED IN THE
WINDOW. IF YOU WANT TO EDIT THE ARTICLE DO SO AND THEN HIGHLIGHT
AND COPY IT AGAIN. NOW EVERY TIME YOU POST THE ARTICLE IN A
NEWSGROUP ALL YOU HAVE TO REPEAT IS "CTRL" AND "V" AND PRESS
POST.
7)THAT'S it. Each time you do this, all you have to do is type in
a DIFFERENT newsgroup, so that way, it posts to 200 DIFFERENT
newsgroups, you see? Now you just have 199 to go!! (Don't worry,
each one takes about 30, seconds, once you get used to it)
REMEMBER 200 IS THE MINIMUM. The more you post the more money you
make AND THAT'S IT!! THAT'S THE ONLY 3 STEPS THERE IS!!! You are
now in the mail order business and will start receiving your #1
envelopes from various people all over the world within days.
HINT THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST TO, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL
MAKE. You may want to rent a P.O BOX eventually because of all
the mail. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can come up with a
name, such as "Manager" or "Investor". Just make sure all the
addresses are CORRECT, please.
LET ME TELL YOU WHY THE SYSTEM WORKS!!!
EXAMPLE Out of every 200 postings, lets say [ONLY receive 5
replies, which is actualy VERY LOW, So I made $5 with my
name at #5. Now then, each person who just sent me $1 makes,
say only 200 postings, now with your name at #4, WHICH IS A
TOTAL OF 1000 POSTINGS, not including yours too. 50 people
send you $1 now; thats $50 you just made! Now then your new
50 agents post 200 each with YOUR NAME AT NUMBER #3, OR 10,000
POSTINGS (50x200). Average return is 5OO at $l each is $500.
They make 200 postings, which is 5,000 returns at $1 each, which
is $5,000 dollars! And finally, 5,000 people make 200 postings
with YOUR NAME AT NUMBER 1, YOU NOW GET A RETURN OF $50,000
BEFORE YOUR NAME DROPS OFF THE LIST, AND ThAT'S IF EVERYONE MAKES
200 POSTINGS ONLY, AND IF ONLY 5 PERSONS RESPOND!!!
When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest
posting that is appearing in the newsgroups, and SEND OUT ANOTHER
$5 TO THE NAMES ON THE LIST PUTTING YOUR NAME AT #5 AGAIN. And
start posting again. The thing to remember is, do you realize
that THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE JOINING THE
INTERNET AND READING THESE ARTICLES EVERYDAY, JUST LIKE YOU ARE
RIGHT NOW!!! So can you afford $5 dollars and see if it really
works? I think so...
People have said, "What if the plan is played out and no one
sends you the money? " So what! What are the chances of that
happening when there are TONS OF NEW HONEST USERS AND NEW HONEST
PEOPLE who are joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and
are willing to give it a try.
Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,00 new users, everyday, with
THOUSANDS of those joining the actual Internet. Remember, play
FAIRLY AND HONESTY and this WILL WORK, I PROMISE YOU!!! You just
have to be honest.
Make sure you print this article out, RIGHT NOW, also, try to
keep a list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an
eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly.
REMEMBER, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. YOU DON'T NEED TO CHEAT
THE BASIC IDEA IS TO MAKE MONEY!! GOOD LUCK TO ALL AND
PLEASE PlAY FAIRLY AND YOU WILL REAP THE HUGE REWARDS
FROM THIS WHICH IS TON'S OF EXTRA CASH!
**By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting
the messages with your name on the list and not sending
the money to the people already on the list, you will
not get much. Someone who did that made $50 dollars, and
that's AFTER seven and eight weeks! Then he sent 5 1$ bills,
people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over
$lOK. THIS IS THE FAIREST AND MOST HONEST WAY I HAVE EVER SEEN TO
SHARE THE WEALTH OF THE WORLD WITHOUT COSTING ANYTHING BUT OUR
TIME!!!
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:47:45 +0100
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: Milos Rysavy
Subject: Re: $$$ Real Cash Honest $$$
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Lidi, nevite nekdo nejaky recept proti tem gaunerum, kteri
zaplavuji (nejen) tento list stupidnimi reklamnimi texty?
m.r.
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 09:32:57 +0100
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: Petr Schauer
Subject: Re: $$$ Real Cash Honest $$$
> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:47:45 +0100
> From: Milos Rysavy
>
> Lidi, nevite nekdo nejaky recept proti tem gaunerum, kteri
> zaplavuji (nejen) tento list stupidnimi reklamnimi texty?
Jediny jednoduchy zpusob jak jim to znechutit je poslat jim to zpet.
Ale pozor !!!! Nestaci pouzit Reply: to by slo zpet do listu. Pokud
by to udelal kazdy, snad by je chut presla i kdyz uznavam, ze to zby-
tecne zatezuje Internet.
Bohuzel, nekteri tito odesilatele jsou natolik mazani, ze pisi z ne-
existujicich adres, cimz se proti te lavine vratek lehce ubrani.
Petr Schauer
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 10:45:11 +0100
Reply-To: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: Peter Kundrat
Subject: Re: $$$ Real Cash Honest $$$
In-Reply-To: ;
from Milos Rysavy on Feb 02, 1997 at 08:47:45AM
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On Feb 26, Milos Rysavy wrote
> Lidi, nevite nekdo nejaky recept proti tem gaunerum, kteri
> zaplavuji (nejen) tento list stupidnimi reklamnimi texty?
Relativne jednoduche (hoci stale ciastocne) riesenie je povolit do listu
prispievat iba clenom (s tym, ze postu od neclenov dostane spravca, ktory
rozhodne, ci posle ci nie). Ovsem to by vyzadovalo aktivneho spravcu listu
(a tiez listserver by to musel vediet).
Asi narocnejsia moznost je naucit listserver rozoznavat podozrive subjekty a
filtrovat ich (popr. by konecne rozhodnutie robil spravca).
A asi posledna, je nastavit si program, ktorym citate postu aby to
odfiltroval.
pk
--
kundrat@napri.sk, Peter KUNDRAT, http://www.napri.sk/~kundrat/
** Furious activity is no substitute for understanding.
** -- H.H. Williams
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:01:57 +0100
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Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: Eva Litavcova
Subject: Re: $$$ Real Cash Honest $$$
In-Reply-To:
from "Milos Rysavy" at Feb 26, 97 08:47:45 am
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>
> Lidi, nevite nekdo nejaky recept proti tem gaunerum, kteri
> zaplavuji (nejen) tento list stupidnimi reklamnimi texty?
> m.r.
>
Niekto tu uz radil forward. Skusala som to, ale dosiahla som akurat to, ze
sa mi nejaky server vysmial, vraj je proti mailbombingu odolny.
e.l.
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 11:52:48 +0100
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Sender: Diskuse o mistnich problemech v siti
From: Juraj Panko
Subject: Re: $$$ Real Cash Honest $$$
In-Reply-To: <199702260832.AA04849@indigo.isibrno.cz> from "Petr Schauer" at
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Dobry den !
According to Petr Schauer.
> > Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:47:45 +0100
> > From: Milos Rysavy
> >
> > Lidi, nevite nekdo nejaky recept proti tem gaunerum, kteri
> > zaplavuji (nejen) tento list stupidnimi reklamnimi texty?
> Jediny jednoduchy zpusob jak jim to znechutit je poslat jim to zpet.
> Ale pozor !!!! Nestaci pouzit Reply: to by slo zpet do listu. Pokud
> by to udelal kazdy, snad by je chut presla i kdyz uznavam, ze to zby-
> tecne zatezuje Internet.
> Bohuzel, nekteri tito odesilatele jsou natolik mazani, ze pisi z ne-
> existujicich adres, cimz se proti te lavine vratek lehce ubrani.
Za starych dobrych casov sa zvyklo pisat prislusnemu spravcovi domeny
(spravca, admin, a postmasterovi), ze v pripade opakovania zakazete
prijem akejkolvek posty z prislusnej domeny, (ale to uz dnes valmi
casto nezabera :-( pokial mozno kopiu poslat aj na nejaky BB danej domeny
(ak existuje).
Velmi casto ide o nejaku ucelovu subdomenu, ktora je prenajata na pocitaci
ISP, potom sa treba obracat so staznostami na spravcovske adresy ISP.
Toto je asi JEDINE KOREKTNA reakcia.
Mailbomba je casto ucinna ale iba ak je to skutocne suvisly tok MB dat v
trvani niekolko hodin, ktory ZLIKVIDUJE MAILER (o schranku takemu cloveku
neide), ale tan si mozete dovolit iba ak Vam nezalezi na likvidacii
vlastneho pasma (a prejde Vam to u Vasich sysadmin :-). Ina varianta je
posielat suvisly tok MALYCH listov, ktore zlikviduju logy postmastera.
Pred kazdou takou akciou je potrebne sa "zastrielat" - teda poslat iba
jeden list z kratkou dobou expiracie dorucenia. Ak sa nevrati cesta je volna....
(obrana - v /etc/aliases presmerovat dany mbox do /dev/null pasmu nepomoze
:-(
Samozrejme aj to je tiez NET ABUSE, pretoze mrhate drahocennym pasmom. po
celej ceste a tak znemoznujete pracu tisickam nevinnych pouzivatelov...
:-( zial dnes bezne ....
NIE JE TO V SULADE S NETIQUETTE a prosim, aby ste druhu cast tohoto listu
nebrali ako navod.
> Petr Schauer
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Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:11:30 +0100
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From: Juraj Panko
Subject: Re: $$$ Real Cash Honest $$$
In-Reply-To: <199702261101.MAA02038@saris.po.upjs.sk> from "Eva Litavcova" at
Feb 26, 97 12:01:57 pm
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Dobry den !
According to Eva Litavcova.
> >
> > Lidi, nevite nekdo nejaky recept proti tem gaunerum, kteri
> > zaplavuji (nejen) tento list stupidnimi reklamnimi texty?
> > m.r.
> >
> Niekto tu uz radil forward. Skusala som to, ale dosiahla som akurat to, ze
> sa mi nejaky server vysmial, vraj je proti mailbombingu odolny.
Nuz potom zakazat prijem posty z danej domeny a oznamit to postmasterovi.
Sucasne to oznamit do usenet group news.admin.net-abuse.announce
alebo news.admin.net-abuse.misc (viem je to proti NET ABUSE na newsoch,
ale citaju to prevazne sysadmins.... )
( a teraz ten maly diabol vo mne >:')
( a vyskusat nejake ine riesenia, ak si myslia, ze su taki chytri ...;-)
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Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:53:52 +0100
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From: Zbysek Bahensky
Subject: Quick CASH atd.
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Moc se v tom nevyznam, ale obavam se, ze vraceni mailu je nejnebezpecnejsi co
muze ubohy uzivatel udelat, protoze tak tem rozsevacum mailu da svoji VLASTNI
mailovou adresu. Mozna by stalo za to zaradit pred maillisty nejaky filtr, do
ktereho by spravce listu daval adresy ze kterych se maily nemaji rozesilat nebo
nejaka hesla "quick cash" apod. Ale ani to neni kvalitni reseni.
Zbysek
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:49:09 -0100
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From: somoza.PEF.O=CZU.C=CZ@PEF.CZU.CZ
Subject: telnet pod windows
Dobry den.
Nevite, prosim, nekdo o nejakem terminalovem emulatoru pod
windows, ktery by se dal konfigurovat stejne dobre jako stary dobry
dosovy NCSA telnet? (jde mi hlavne o prevody mezi kodovymi tabulkami
znaku).
Dekuji mnoho za kazdou odpoved.
e-mail: benedikt@uvt.czu.cz
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:28:35 +0100
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From: Jiri Novotny
Subject: Re: Quick CASH atd.
In-Reply-To: <9702261241.AA2189@worldcom-58.worldcom.com> from Zbysek Bahensky
at "Feb 26, 97 02:53:52 pm"
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> Moc se v tom nevyznam, ale obavam se, ze vraceni mailu je nejnebezpecnejsi co
> muze ubohy uzivatel udelat, protoze tak tem rozsevacum mailu da svoji VLASTNI
> mailovou adresu. Mozna by stalo za to zaradit pred maillisty nejaky filtr, do
> ktereho by spravce listu daval adresy ze kterych se maily nemaji rozesilat nebo
> nejaka hesla "quick cash" apod. Ale ani to neni kvalitni reseni.
>
Neco podobneho udelal spravce listu net - a musim rict, ze z tohoto
listu podobne veci chodi v daleko mensim rozsahu, za coz jsem
velmi vdecny.
S pozdravem
J. Novotny
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:36:44 +0100
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From: Pavel Korensky
Subject: Re: Quick CASH atd.
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Zbysek Bahensky wrote:
> Moc se v tom nevyznam, ale obavam se, ze vraceni mailu je nejnebezpecnejsi co
> muze ubohy uzivatel udelat, protoze tak tem rozsevacum mailu da svoji VLASTNI
> mailovou adresu. Mozna by stalo za to zaradit pred maillisty nejaky filtr, do
> ktereho by spravce listu daval adresy ze kterych se maily nemaji rozesilat
> nebo
> nejaka hesla "quick cash" apod. Ale ani to neni kvalitni reseni.
>
> Zbysek
>
Delejte to jako ja, vratte jim to pres anonymni remailer :-))
Bye PavelK
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Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:01:24 GMT
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From: Jiri Lisicky
Organization: CIT Olomouc
Subject: Re: telnet pod windows
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On 26 Feb 1997 15:44:02 +0100, somoza.PEF.O=CZU.C=CZ@PEF.CZU.CZ wrote:
> Dobry den.
>
> Nevite, prosim, nekdo o nejakem terminalovem emulatoru pod
>windows, ktery by se dal konfigurovat stejne dobre jako stary dobry
>dosovy NCSA telnet? (jde mi hlavne o prevody mezi kodovymi tabulkami
>znaku).
Zkuste NetTerm pouzivame ho a jsme s nim docela spokojeni.
Ovsem nejake posledni verze nefunguvala zcela podle nasich predstav.
Mame verzi 3.2.3.2
roste to na http://starbase.neosoft.com/~zkrr01/
Jiri Lisicky CD CIT Olomouc
e-mail: lisicky@cit.cdrail.cz Jeremenkova 42
phone: +42-068-5507 318 Olomouc, Czech Republic
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:28:07 +0100
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From: Marek Andricik
Subject: Re: Quick CASH atd.
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Pavel Korensky wrote:
>
> Delejte to jako ja, vratte jim to pres anonymni remailer :-))
A co tak to bez velkych reci zmazat a venovat sa niecomu uzitocnejsiemu
ako je vypisovanie post o tom, co v takom pripade robit?
Marcus
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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:44:40 +0100
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From: Pavel Vachek
Subject: Net Abuse: $$$ Real Cash Honest $$$ (odpoved spravce)
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Ahoj vsem vespolek!
Toto je odpoved spravce domeny na mou stiznost o zneuzivani site.
Myslim, ze v podobnych pripadech je nejlepsi stezovat si primo
odesilateli retezoveho dopisu a kopii poslat prislusnemu
postmasterovi nebo administratorovi site - aspon adresa
administratora lze zjistit v databasi RIPE nebo INTERNIC.
Nektere domeny maji i specialni adresu na zasilani stiznosti
tohoto druhu; to je i pripad `erols.com'.
Zdravi Vas
Pavel Vachek, CESNET NIC.
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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:08:36 -0500
From: Terms of Service
To: Pavel Vachek
Subject: Re: Net Abuse: $$$ Real Cash Honest $$$
>could you please have a look at this mail? It was sent
>into a list on computer networks.
The account of this particular user will be suspended, and will not be
reactivated unless they demonstrate to our satisfaction that they
understand netiquette and our Online Policies. Furthermore, I'm going to
try and get our Higher-Ups(tm) to send out an email about chain-letters.
We've had a rash of them lately, with 8 different users posting chain
letters in the newsgroups since last Friday. Must've been something in the
water.
Terms of Service
Erol's Internet
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:08:46 +0100
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From: Zdenek Sembera
Subject: CGI
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Cau,
je tu nekdo kdo umi CGI ?
S pozdravem
Zdenek Sembera
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 08:36:23 -0800
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From: Ales Bukovsky
Subject: Anonymni remailer
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Ahoj,
onehdy tu padla zminka o anonymnich remailerech. Mohl by mi nekdo
doporucit nejaky slusny soft? Eventuelne i s linkem , kde se da
stahnout. Predem diky!
-Ales-
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 10:51:33 +0100
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From: Pavel Korensky
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Ales Bukovsky wrote:
> Ahoj,
> onehdy tu padla zminka o anonymnich remailerech. Mohl by mi nekdo
> doporucit nejaky slusny soft? Eventuelne i s linkem , kde se da
> stahnout. Predem diky!
> -Ales-
>
Dobry den,
zalezi pro jakou platformu hledate ten soft. Pro Linux je nejlepsi pouzit
normalni mail program na jaky jste zvykly a k nemu programek ktery se jmenuje
premail. Je to takovy preprocesor. Vyrobi patricna zahlavi do zpravy, eventualne
ji zakoduje PGP, pokud komunikace smeruje na nejaky nym server.
Pro Windows existuje program Private Idaho. Ten dela vicemene totez, chodi to
pekne.
Kde se to da stahnout, to uz jsem zapomel. Zkuste se podivat na Altavistu, pod
hesla premail a private idaho.
Zdravi PavelK
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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:06:45 +0100
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From: Petr Skoda
Subject: Zajem o opravu DAT mechanik ??
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Vazeni uzivatele DAT a EXABYTE zarizeni
mam jednu zajimavou zpravu, ostatnim se omlouvam, ze ji dostanou ze 3
ruznych konferenci - at nectou dale.
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Pokusil jsem se udelat nejake kroky v oprave nasi DATky, ktera asi po 4
letech (35000 hod) odesla ackoli ma MTBF asi 50000 (to jen na okraj -
nezacinejte diskusi o MTBF ).
Jedna se o typ HP35470A. Domnival jsem se ze pricinou muze byt zaspinena
hlava, kterou uz cistici paska nevycisti.
Servis HP mi lakonicky rekl ze nic nezkoumaji a mechaniky rovnou meni za
nove - stejneho typu. Tedy za zastaralou 2GB chteji asi 30000 bez DPH.
Pokud vim, tak nove DDS2 jsou levnejsi - mam pocit tak 25000 a modernejsi.
Takze smysl takove akce nevidim. Chlapik mi rekl, ze kdyz ji prinesu, tak
si stejne nepomuzu - ze maximalne zkusi jestli chodi (to vim, ze ne -
necte (jen pokud pasku nahraju a ctu hned) a premotava pasek z jedne
stranyna druhou.).
Nejake cisteni ci disagnosticke zasahy specializovanym
zarizenim ? Nic takoveho. Takze nakonec veden volbou DATku vyhodit hned
nebo az potom jsem ji dal do blizkeho videoservisu k vycisteni hlavy.
A ted to podstatne:
Technik mi rekl, ze hlavy jsou dobre a urcite hned tak neodejdou, ale
problemy jsou mechanicke - uvolnene vodici koliky, pritlacne kladky
vychozene atd. - A ze by to urcite umel opravit - nastavit je atd.
Ale zajimave by to pro nej bylo az kdyby se naslo vice zajemcu.
Zaridil by si PC s SCSI radicem atd. Nasmlouval by si nahradni dily ze
skladu - pry ty mechaniky jsou stejne jako u zvukovych DATek a podobne
jako u video-8 je dela jen par vyrobcu - konkretne v tom nasem HP jsou
Mitsumi a buben hlav od SONy atd. Takze pry opravit DATku neni nic jineho
nez bezne videokamery a umel by to a mel by i dily.
Nevim nakolik se vychloubal ale fakt ho tam nic neprekvapilo a detailne mi
i vysvetlil jake asi problemy datka dela. - tj ze bezprostredne nahranou
pasku jeste nekdy precte ale starsi uz ne - protoze zmena polohy pasku
zpusobena viklavymi koliky se jednak s casem zvetsuje, jednak nahodne meni
(coz musim potvrdit - pasku nahranou ted a premotanou na zacatek prectu,
jakmile ji vyndam (tj. buben se odmota a zase zavede) a zalozim znovu uz
necte.
Jelikoz vim, ze uz par lidi melo s DATkami potize - udava se mala
prakticka zivotnost i v ruznych newsgroups, mozna by se i u nas nasli
zajemci o opravu svych odepsanych DATek ci EXAbyte (tam je to dokonce
stejne jako bezny camcorder 8mm - dily primo na sklade).
Jeste mi rikal. ze bezchybna funkcnost takovych zarizeni je dost mala
obecne - asi 2-3 roky proto, ze napr nektere motory nejsou mazane stejne
jako dalsi prevody, a tam kde jsou mazadlo vyschne atd. U videa se taky
doporuceje dat je kazde 2 roky vycistit a seridit.
Prosim tedy zajemce o opravu at se mi ozvou na nize uvedene e-mail
adresy s uvedenim spojeni a typu zarizeni.
Ja se vratim po 10.3. z dovolene a pak bych chtel tomu technikovi alespon
rici ze je zajem o opravu cca n kusu zarizeni a on by se mohl podle toho
zaridit. Cena opravy by vychazela v max nekolika tisicich (jako za opravu
bezneho videa ci kamery - ale pokud pujde pouze o nejake dotazeni a
serizeni nemusela by presahovat 1500.
Problem jak jej vidim - je pouze v tom pocitaci a nejakem driveru -
protoze mechanika musi zacist cist - pak on je schopen na vystupnim
videozesilovaci ( tj za hlavou tam je vzdy servisni konektor) dostat tvar
dat a mechnicky stelovat k optimalnimu tvaru.
POkud nekdo rozumi servisu videorekorderu a jinych zarizeni s rotujicimi
hlavami - rad si poslechnu nezavisle nazory na serioznost technikovych
tvrzeni)
Omlouvam se za potencialni OFF-TOPIC ale domnivam se ze by to mohlo byt
zajimave mit moznost oprav i na tato trochu exkluzivni zarizeni - s
jejichz servisem nechce mit vyrobce nic spolecneho - podobne jako s jinymi
pocitacovymi zarizenimi - BTW: umi nekdo opravovat MOD disky nebo
CDROM-ky?
P.S. nedelam tomu technikovi zadnou reklamu - chci jen docilit opravy nasi
DATky - a pochybuji ze bych od nej neco dostal ;-( v pripade ze mu dohodim
ksefty.
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