Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 12:37:20 +0100
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pouze test
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:43:37 GMT
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From: Marek Nemec V0959
Organization: Stavebni fakulta CVUT, Praha
Subject: Ohledně MMX
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Chtěl bych si koupit procesor s podporou technologie MMX, ale nevím zda
moje deska tuto technologii podporuje. Manuál u nemám. Proto by mě
zajímalo zda existuje nějaký program, který to dokáe zjistit. Či jak
to zjistit jinak.
Předem děkuji
Marek Němec
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 12:53:00 +0100
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test funkcnosti listu
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 21:17:32 GMT
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From: Ján Kukučka
Organization: GOOD
Subject: Další diskusní skupiny
Poraďte nějaké další diskusní skupiny, kde se dá o něčem pokecat a
navštěvují je lidé
Ján Kukučka
Halasovo nám 3
Brno 638 00
tel: 0602/500 598
mail: kukucka@foresta.cz
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 07:25:41 +0000
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From: Petr Vodicka
Organization: MZLU Brno
Subject: Ceniky software
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Vazeni,
nevite prosim Vas nekdo, kde se na Inetu da najit nejaky seznam a zj. CENIK
softwaru? HW uz je dost, nicmene cenik SW, kde by byly vsechny obecne
pouzivane produkty) jsem nenasel.
Konkretne mi jde o Proxyserver firmy Microsoft 2.X, Fax server na NT,
Exchange server 5.5
Diky a s pozdravem P.V.
Petr Vodicka
vodicka@mendelu.cz
Mendelova Zemedelska a Lesnicka Univerzita
UVT Ustav Vypocetni Techniky
Zemedelska 1
61300 Brno 13
tel. 05-4513 5052
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:53:08 GMT
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From: Matus Uhlar
Organization: Slovak Academic Network Kosice
Subject: Re: Ceniky software
Petr Vodicka wrote:
-> Vazeni,
-> nevite prosim Vas nekdo, kde se na Inetu da najit nejaky seznam a zj. CENIK
-> softwaru? HW uz je dost, nicmene cenik SW, kde by byly vsechny obecne
-> pouzivane produkty) jsem nenasel.
-> Konkretne mi jde o Proxyserver firmy Microsoft 2.X, Fax server na NT,
-> Exchange server 5.5
dovolim si zaprovokovat - zozente si to na linux, a mate to vsetko zadarmo.
(sice nie od M$ ale o to lepsie to bude chodit)
--
Matus "fantomas" Uhlar, network manager at faculty of civil engineering
of Technical University in Kosice, Slovakia
E-mail: Matus.Uhlar@tuke.sk ; WWW: http://ccsun.tuke.sk/users/uhlar
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 06:47:39 +0000
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From: Petr Vodicka
Organization: MZLU Brno
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> -> Vazeni,
> -> nevite prosim Vas nekdo, kde se na Inetu da najit nejaky seznam a zj. CENIK
> -> softwaru? HW uz je dost, nicmene cenik SW, kde by byly vsechny obecne
> -> pouzivane produkty) jsem nenasel.
>
> -> Konkretne mi jde o Proxyserver firmy Microsoft 2.X, Fax server na NT,
> -> Exchange server 5.5
>
> dovolim si zaprovokovat - zozente si to na linux, a mate to vsetko zadarmo.
> (sice nie od M$ ale o to lepsie to bude chodit)
Mala otazecka - jsou programy pod Linux napr.:
- Slusny spreadsheet a textovy editor s moznosti aspon trochu slusneho
programovani (na urovni Excelu a Wordu)
- Jsou prostredky pro vyvoj databazovych aplikaci - POKUD MOZNO vizualnich,
ktere jednoduchosti a moznostmi jsou ASPON na urovni Accessu, Visual
Basicu, Visual FoxPro apod....
- Existuji OBECNE pod Linuxem vyvojarske prostredky aspin na urovni Visual
Studia 97.
A EXISTUJI-LI JSOU ZADARMO? Pokud ANO, zacnu se okamzite ucit Linux.
Diky a s pozdravem P.V.
Petr Vodicka
vodicka@mendelu.cz
Mendelova Zemedelska a Lesnicka Univerzita
UVT Ustav Vypocetni Techniky
Zemedelska 1
61300 Brno 13
tel. 05-4513 5052
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:55:19 +0100
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From: Michal Kratky
Subject: sipky v telnetu
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Zdar,
kdyz udelam telnet ze Solarisu a v telnetu stisknu sipku dolu,
vygeneruje se sekvence ESC [ B Tato sekvence se prenese
v jedinem TCP paketu do vzdaleneho pocitace, natelnetena aplikace
dostane vsechny tri znaky najednou, rozpozna sipku a spravne
se mi zachova.
Ale kdyz telnetim z Linuxu a stisknu sipku dolu, vygeneruje se sice
opet sekvence ESC [ B ale prenese se ve dvou TCP paketech. V tom
prvnim je samotny ESC, ve druhem za nim bezi [ B . Nacez aplikace
dostane ESC a potom chvilku nic. Rozpozna tedy ESC a zachova se mi
neslusne.
Nevite nekdo jak to v tom Linuxu vylepsit ? Konfiguraci jadra,
prechodem na jinou verzi, nebo co ja vim cim jeste? Ten Linux o
sobe rika ze je
Red Hat Linux release 4.2 (Biltmore)
Kernel 2.0.30 on an i586
Dik za vzacne rady.
Michal Kratky
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 23:52:21 +0100
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Subject: Re: sipky v telnetu
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On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Michal Kratky wrote:
> kdyz udelam telnet ze Solarisu a v telnetu stisknu sipku dolu,
> vygeneruje se sekvence ESC [ B Tato sekvence se prenese
> Ale kdyz telnetim z Linuxu a stisknu sipku dolu, vygeneruje se sice
> opet sekvence ESC [ B ale prenese se ve dvou TCP paketech. V tom
> prvnim je samotny ESC, ve druhem za nim bezi [ B . Nacez aplikace
> dostane ESC a potom chvilku nic. Rozpozna tedy ESC a zachova se mi
> neslusne.
Pokazde je to na stejnou aplikaci? Co je to za divnou aplikaci,
kdyz rozlisuje jestli ji to prislo v kusech nebo pohromade ?
Neni to nakonec tak ze z kazdeho prostredi se rozjede jina
emulace terminalu ? Pokud se ocitnu v takove situaci, tak pouziju
nouzove klavesnici a zkusim bud Esc [ A (B,C,D) nebo Esc O A (B,C,D)
a jedno z toho obvykle funguje, i kdyz to posilam pomoci klaves, tedy
zarucene kazdy znak v jednom paketu.
Martin
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:20:08 +0100
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On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Martin MICHAL wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Michal Kratky wrote:
>
> > kdyz udelam telnet ze Solarisu a v telnetu stisknu sipku dolu,
> > vygeneruje se sekvence ESC [ B Tato sekvence se prenese
>
> > Ale kdyz telnetim z Linuxu a stisknu sipku dolu, vygeneruje se sice
> > opet sekvence ESC [ B ale prenese se ve dvou TCP paketech. V tom
> > prvnim je samotny ESC, ve druhem za nim bezi [ B . Nacez aplikace
> > dostane ESC a potom chvilku nic. Rozpozna tedy ESC a zachova se mi
> > neslusne.
>
> Pokazde je to na stejnou aplikaci? Co je to za divnou aplikaci,
> kdyz rozlisuje jestli ji to prislo v kusech nebo pohromade ?
> Neni to nakonec tak ze z kazdeho prostredi se rozjede jina
> emulace terminalu ? Pokud se ocitnu v takove situaci, tak pouziju
Komercni program pro administrativu. Stejne se chova i jisty textovy
editor. Snad je to oboje naprogramovano nad curses. Muzu jenom hadat,
ze to dela read() a kdyz tam dostane celou sekvenci tak ji interpretuje,
jinak ne.
Na aplikacni urovni je to resitelne pomoci
stty min 3 time 3
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 15:13:46 +0100
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From: Petr HANEK
Organization: Technical University of Ostrava, Czech Republic
Subject: Re: Dalsí diskusní skupiny
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Ján Kukučka wrote:
> Poraďte nějaké další diskusní skupiny, kde se dá o něčem pokecat a
> navštěvují je lidé
>
> Ján Kukučka
> Halasovo nám 3
> Brno 638 00
> tel: 0602/500 598
> mail: kukucka@foresta.cz
Zdravim, nejake odkazy jsou na
http://www.zcu.cz/services/news/groups/cz.net.html
http://www.cpress.cz/duhove_stranky/cusnet/w_9800.htm
Petr
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:20:00 +0100
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Subject: Kodak Photo CD format
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Dobry den,
pravdepodobne je to zcela off-topic (je-li v tomto listu nejaky topic),
ale mam nasledujici problem: mam cedecko plne souboru ve formatu *.pcd a
potreboval bych je nacist do Page Makeru (posledni verze a Win95). Kdyz
se o to pokusim primo, mily Page Maker mi oznami cosi o chybejicim
profilu CMS a smidra. Dobra, mame skryte rezervy. Vytahnu Adobe
Photoshop LE (dodavany s PM) a pokusim se je otevrit. A vysledek?
Obrazek se krasne otevre, ale s rozlisenim 98 dpi (totez provede MS
Photo Editor z MS Office97). Nic pro moc pro osvit.
Otazka zni: co mam delat? Nejak sehnat CMS profil (kde???) nebo jde
jinak premluvit pcd soubor, aby se otevrel v nejakem vyssim rozliseni
(nekde jsem slysel, ze jich ma v sobe hned celou radu). Pravdepodobne
jde o nejakou trivialni chybu, ale moc si s tim nevim rady.
Diky
Matej Cepl
AK Fiala, Profous,
Maisner & spol.
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 07:05:19 GMT
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Nevite nekdo, jestli existuje %subj%? Mam problem s Wordem97 (resp. mam
jeden zcela spolehlivy system jak ho skopnout) a chtel bych se poradit
co s tim. Nemam ale pristup na www, takze moc prosim o e-mailovou adresu
diskusni skupiny.
Zaroven bych se chtel zeptat, jestli nekdo nevite o dokumentu, ktery se
jmenuje nejak jako "Internet by E-mail, doctor ??? manual how to use
Internet by E-mail"?
Matej Cepl
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 14:53:09 MET
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> Nevite nekdo, jestli existuje %subj%? Mam problem s Wordem97 (resp. mam
> jeden zcela spolehlivy system jak ho skopnout) a chtel bych se poradit
> co s tim. Nemam ale pristup na www, takze moc prosim o e-mailovou adresu
> diskusni skupiny.
>
> Zaroven bych se chtel zeptat, jestli nekdo nevite o dokumentu, ktery se
> jmenuje nejak jako "Internet by E-mail, doctor ??? manual how to use
> Internet by E-mail"?
>
> Matej Cepl
Problemu s Word 97 je vice, nektere (napr. tisk na ruznych
tiskarnach) jsou uz reseny servis packem na www.microsof.cz
Programovani jsem nezkousela, ale v tvorbe www stranek
jsem narazila na nekolik problemu, spatne oznacovani typu
pisma, "rozhozeni" formatu tabulek. Pouzivam Office97
CZ z pocatku roku 97
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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 09:55:18 +0100
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From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Mat=ECj_Cepl?=
Subject: Re: Programovani ve Wordu
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Pokud mam posledni prispevek Mgr. Pavlikove povazovat za vyzvu k
premene CSINFO-L na takovou diskusni skupinu, dovolil bych si
poznamenat, ze takova skupina skutecne existuje, kdesi na EMWACu, ale
nevim presnou adresu. Proto jsem prosil o jeji zaslani.=20
> > Nevite nekdo, jestli existuje %subj%? Mam problem s Wordem97 (resp.
> mam
> > jeden zcela spolehlivy system jak ho skopnout) a chtel bych se
> poradit
> > co s tim. Nemam ale pristup na www, takze moc prosim o e-mailovou
> adresu
> > diskusni skupiny.
>=20
> [Mat=ECj Cepl] Ten postup je velice jednoduchy. Kdykoli spustim =
makro,
> ktere obsahuje metodu Application.OrganizerCopy
> (Object:=3DwdOrganizerObjectStyles) tak mi Word zcela spolehlive =
spadne
> (Dr. Watson ap.). Mame tady celou Office97 CZ na MS WinNT 4.0
> Workstation, po=E8=EDta=E8e jsou origin=E1ln=ED IBM PC 300GL, sit MS =
Windows NT
> 4.0 a MS Exchange 4.0.
>=20
> > Zaroven bych se chtel zeptat, jestli nekdo nevite o dokumentu, =
ktery
> se
> > jmenuje nejak jako "Internet by E-mail, doctor ??? manual how to =
use
> > Internet by E-mail"?
>=20
> [Mat=ECj Cepl] Uz jsem ho dostal dekuji.
>=20
> WWW se st=E1le je=B9t=EC =FAsp=EC=B9n=EC vyh=FDb=E1m, tak=BEe =
probl=E9my s HTML se mne
> net=FDkaj=ED. Co se mne ale velice t=FDk=E1 (jsem pr=E1vn=EDk) jsou =
nepo=F8=E1dky v
> =E8=EDslov=E1n=ED odstavc=F9 (kdy ob=E8as zapomene =E8=EDslovat, =
tak=BEe m=EDsto odstavce
> 14.1.2. sm=ECle tvrd=ED, =BEe jde o odsdtavec 1.1.2.), ale s t=EDm mi =
asi
> nepom=F9=BEete.
>=20
> =A9=BBastn=FD a vesel=FD a prost=FD v=B9ech hr=F9z po=E8=EDta=E8=F9. =
Lidi jsou mnohem
> zaj=EDmav=ECj=B9=ED.
>=20
> Mat=ECj Cepl
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:44:32 +0100
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From: Dan Lukes
Organization: FIO a.s., Senovazne nam. 24, Praha
Subject: Re: Programovani ve Wordu
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On 31 Dec 97 at 9:55, Mat j Cepl wrote:
> nevim presnou adresu. Proto jsem prosil o jeji zaslani.
V tomhle vam take neporadim.
> > [Mat j Cepl] Ten postup je velice jednoduchy. Kdykoli spustim makro,
> > ktere obsahuje metodu Application.OrganizerCopy
> > (Object:=wdOrganizerObjectStyles) tak mi Word zcela spolehlive spadne
> > (Dr. Watson ap.). Mame tady celou Office97 CZ na MS WinNT 4.0
^^
Preji Vam, abyste nasel lepsi radu, ale podle meho je problem v tom "CZ"
za Office97. Moje osobni zkusenosti se stabilitou US a CZ verzi Wordu,
Excelu, Accessu uz od rannych verzi az do soucasnosti hovori vyrazne v
neprospech CZ verzi. Nevim co tam pri lokalizaci delaji, ale az prilis casto
se stava, ze programove konstrukce (casto dokonce prevzate z examplu) v US
versi chodi bez problemu, v CZ tataz konstrukce chodi nespolehlive, nebo
nechodi vubec, na neocekavane side-efekty ci je jinak nedeterminovatelna.
Zkusil jsem vami naznacenou konstrukci pouzit u sebe a v US verzi
chodila. To samozrejme neni dukaz, ze problem je tam kde rikam ...
Jinak bych si dovolil pozadat ucastniky konference, aby nepouzivali pri
zasilani prispevku diakritiku. U konferenci, kde to nebylo ucastniky
dohodnuto je to povazovano za prohresek proti etikete, a ja zrovna takove
prispevky nevidim jako prilis citelne ...
Dekuji
Dan
Dan Lukes (FIO holding, a.s.) tel: +420 2 24102204, fax: ...301
root, webmaster, postmaster and othermaster of FIONet
AKA: dan@obluda.cz, dan@freebsd.cz, dan@kolej.mff.cuni.cz
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:03:35 +0100
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From: Vladimir Vrabec
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>Zaroven bych se chtel zeptat, jestli nekdo nevite o dokumentu, ktery se
>jmenuje nejak jako "Internet by E-mail, doctor ??? manual how to use
>Internet by E-mail"?
>
> Matej Cepl
Pravdepodobne jde o text "Accessing The Internet By E-Mail - Doctor
Bob's Guide to Offline Internet Access". Anglicky text ziskate e-mailem
To: mailbase@mailbase.ac.uk
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Subject: send accmail.cz
S pozdravem
Vladimir Vrabec
e-mail: vrabec@cs.felk.cvut.cz
www page: http://omicron.felk.cvut.cz/~vrabec