Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 12:37:20 +0100
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pouze test



Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:43:37 GMT
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From:         Marek Nemec V0959 
Organization: Stavebni fakulta CVUT, Praha
Subject:      Ohledně MMX
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Chtěl bych si koupit procesor s podporou technologie MMX, ale nevím zda
moje deska tuto technologii podporuje. Manuál už nemám. Proto by mě
zajímalo zda existuje nějaký program, který to dokáže zjistit. Či jak
to zjistit jinak.

                                     Předem děkuji
                                                   Marek Němec



Date:         Thu, 4 Dec 1997 12:53:00 +0100
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test funkcnosti listu



Date:         Sun, 7 Dec 1997 21:17:32 GMT
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From:         Ján Kukučka 
Organization: GOOD
Subject:      Další diskusní skupiny

Poraďte nějaké další diskusní skupiny, kde se dá o něčem pokecat a
navštěvují je lidé


Ján Kukučka
Halasovo nám 3
Brno   638 00
tel: 0602/500 598
mail: kukucka@foresta.cz



Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 07:25:41 +0000
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From:         Petr Vodicka 
Organization: MZLU Brno
Subject:      Ceniky software
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Vazeni,
nevite prosim Vas nekdo, kde se na Inetu da najit nejaky seznam a zj. CENIK
softwaru? HW uz je dost, nicmene cenik SW, kde by byly vsechny obecne
pouzivane produkty) jsem nenasel.

Konkretne mi jde o Proxyserver firmy Microsoft 2.X, Fax server na NT,
Exchange server 5.5

Diky a s pozdravem P.V.

      Petr Vodicka
      vodicka@mendelu.cz
      Mendelova Zemedelska a Lesnicka Univerzita
      UVT Ustav Vypocetni Techniky
      Zemedelska 1
61300 Brno 13

tel. 05-4513 5052



Date:         Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:53:08 GMT
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From:         Matus Uhlar 
Organization: Slovak Academic Network Kosice
Subject:      Re: Ceniky software

Petr Vodicka  wrote:
-> Vazeni,
-> nevite prosim Vas nekdo, kde se na Inetu da najit nejaky seznam a zj. CENIK
-> softwaru? HW uz je dost, nicmene cenik SW, kde by byly vsechny obecne
-> pouzivane produkty) jsem nenasel.

-> Konkretne mi jde o Proxyserver firmy Microsoft 2.X, Fax server na NT,
-> Exchange server 5.5

dovolim si zaprovokovat - zozente si to na linux, a mate to vsetko zadarmo.
(sice nie od M$ ale o to lepsie to bude chodit)
--
 Matus "fantomas" Uhlar, network manager at faculty of civil engineering
 of Technical University in Kosice, Slovakia
 E-mail: Matus.Uhlar@tuke.sk ; WWW: http://ccsun.tuke.sk/users/uhlar



Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 06:47:39 +0000
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From:         Petr Vodicka 
Organization: MZLU Brno
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> -> Vazeni,
> -> nevite prosim Vas nekdo, kde se na Inetu da najit nejaky seznam a zj. CENIK
> -> softwaru? HW uz je dost, nicmene cenik SW, kde by byly vsechny obecne
> -> pouzivane produkty) jsem nenasel.
>
> -> Konkretne mi jde o Proxyserver firmy Microsoft 2.X, Fax server na NT,
> -> Exchange server 5.5
>
> dovolim si zaprovokovat - zozente si to na linux, a mate to vsetko zadarmo.
> (sice nie od M$ ale o to lepsie to bude chodit)

Mala otazecka - jsou programy pod Linux napr.:
- Slusny spreadsheet a textovy editor s moznosti aspon trochu slusneho
   programovani (na urovni Excelu a Wordu)
- Jsou prostredky pro vyvoj databazovych aplikaci - POKUD MOZNO vizualnich,
   ktere jednoduchosti a moznostmi jsou ASPON na urovni Accessu, Visual
   Basicu, Visual FoxPro apod....
- Existuji OBECNE pod Linuxem vyvojarske prostredky aspin na urovni Visual
  Studia 97.

A EXISTUJI-LI JSOU ZADARMO? Pokud ANO, zacnu se okamzite ucit Linux.

Diky a s pozdravem P.V.
      Petr Vodicka
      vodicka@mendelu.cz
      Mendelova Zemedelska a Lesnicka Univerzita
      UVT Ustav Vypocetni Techniky
      Zemedelska 1
61300 Brno 13

tel. 05-4513 5052



Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:55:19 +0100
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From:         Michal Kratky 
Subject:      sipky v telnetu
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Zdar,

kdyz udelam telnet ze Solarisu a v telnetu stisknu sipku dolu,
vygeneruje se sekvence ESC [ B  Tato sekvence se prenese
v jedinem TCP paketu do vzdaleneho pocitace, natelnetena aplikace
dostane vsechny tri znaky najednou, rozpozna sipku a spravne
se mi zachova.

Ale kdyz telnetim z Linuxu a stisknu sipku dolu, vygeneruje se sice
opet sekvence ESC [ B ale prenese se ve dvou TCP paketech. V tom
prvnim je samotny ESC, ve druhem za nim bezi [ B . Nacez aplikace
dostane ESC a potom chvilku nic. Rozpozna tedy ESC a zachova se mi
neslusne.

Nevite nekdo jak to v tom Linuxu vylepsit ? Konfiguraci jadra,
prechodem na jinou verzi, nebo co ja vim cim jeste? Ten Linux o
sobe rika ze je

Red Hat Linux release 4.2 (Biltmore)
Kernel 2.0.30 on an i586

Dik za vzacne rady.

                Michal Kratky



Date:         Tue, 9 Dec 1997 23:52:21 +0100
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From:         Martin MICHAL 
Subject:      Re: sipky v telnetu
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On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Michal Kratky wrote:

> kdyz udelam telnet ze Solarisu a v telnetu stisknu sipku dolu,
> vygeneruje se sekvence ESC [ B  Tato sekvence se prenese

> Ale kdyz telnetim z Linuxu a stisknu sipku dolu, vygeneruje se sice
> opet sekvence ESC [ B ale prenese se ve dvou TCP paketech. V tom
> prvnim je samotny ESC, ve druhem za nim bezi [ B . Nacez aplikace
> dostane ESC a potom chvilku nic. Rozpozna tedy ESC a zachova se mi
> neslusne.

   Pokazde je to na stejnou aplikaci? Co je to za divnou aplikaci,
kdyz rozlisuje jestli ji to prislo v kusech nebo pohromade ?
Neni to nakonec tak ze z kazdeho prostredi se rozjede jina
emulace terminalu ? Pokud se ocitnu v takove situaci, tak pouziju
nouzove klavesnici a zkusim bud Esc [ A   (B,C,D)  nebo Esc O A  (B,C,D)
a jedno z toho obvykle funguje, i kdyz to posilam pomoci klaves, tedy
zarucene kazdy znak v jednom paketu.


       Martin



Date:         Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:20:08 +0100
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On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Martin MICHAL wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Michal Kratky wrote:
>
> > kdyz udelam telnet ze Solarisu a v telnetu stisknu sipku dolu,
> > vygeneruje se sekvence ESC [ B  Tato sekvence se prenese
>
> > Ale kdyz telnetim z Linuxu a stisknu sipku dolu, vygeneruje se sice
> > opet sekvence ESC [ B ale prenese se ve dvou TCP paketech. V tom
> > prvnim je samotny ESC, ve druhem za nim bezi [ B . Nacez aplikace
> > dostane ESC a potom chvilku nic. Rozpozna tedy ESC a zachova se mi
> > neslusne.
>
>    Pokazde je to na stejnou aplikaci? Co je to za divnou aplikaci,
> kdyz rozlisuje jestli ji to prislo v kusech nebo pohromade ?
> Neni to nakonec tak ze z kazdeho prostredi se rozjede jina
> emulace terminalu ? Pokud se ocitnu v takove situaci, tak pouziju

Komercni program pro administrativu. Stejne se chova i jisty textovy
editor. Snad je to oboje naprogramovano nad curses. Muzu jenom hadat,
ze to dela read() a kdyz tam dostane celou sekvenci tak ji interpretuje,
jinak ne.

Na aplikacni urovni je to resitelne pomoci

        stty min 3 time 3 


Date:         Tue, 16 Dec 1997 15:13:46 +0100
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From:         Petr HANEK 
Organization: Technical University of Ostrava, Czech Republic
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Ján Kukučka wrote:

> Poraďte nějaké další diskusní skupiny, kde se dá o něčem pokecat a
> navštěvují je lidé
>
> Ján Kukučka
> Halasovo nám 3
> Brno   638 00
> tel: 0602/500 598
> mail: kukucka@foresta.cz

Zdravim,  nejake odkazy jsou na
    http://www.zcu.cz/services/news/groups/cz.net.html
    http://www.cpress.cz/duhove_stranky/cusnet/w_9800.htm
                                                                    Petr



Date:         Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:20:00 +0100
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Subject:      Kodak Photo CD format
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Dobry den,

pravdepodobne je to zcela off-topic (je-li v tomto listu nejaky topic),
ale mam nasledujici problem: mam cedecko plne souboru ve formatu *.pcd a
potreboval bych je nacist do Page Makeru (posledni verze a Win95). Kdyz
se o to pokusim primo, mily Page Maker mi oznami cosi o chybejicim
profilu CMS a smidra. Dobra, mame skryte rezervy. Vytahnu Adobe
Photoshop LE (dodavany s PM) a pokusim se je otevrit. A vysledek?
Obrazek se krasne otevre, ale s rozlisenim 98 dpi (totez provede MS
Photo Editor z MS Office97). Nic pro moc pro osvit.

Otazka zni: co mam delat? Nejak sehnat CMS profil (kde???) nebo jde
jinak premluvit pcd soubor, aby se otevrel v nejakem vyssim rozliseni
(nekde jsem slysel, ze jich ma v sobe hned celou radu). Pravdepodobne
jde o nejakou trivialni chybu, ale moc si s tim nevim rady.

                                Diky

                                                Matej Cepl
                                                AK Fiala, Profous,
Maisner & spol.



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Date:         Wed, 24 Dec 1997 10:57:24 -0500
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Date:         Tue, 30 Dec 1997 13:41:23 +0100
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From:         =?iso-8859-2?Q?Mat=ECj_Cepl?= 
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Nevite nekdo, jestli existuje %subj%? Mam problem s Wordem97 (resp. mam
jeden zcela spolehlivy system jak ho skopnout) a chtel bych se poradit
co s tim. Nemam ale pristup na www, takze moc prosim o e-mailovou adresu
diskusni skupiny.

Zaroven bych se chtel zeptat, jestli nekdo nevite o dokumentu, ktery se
jmenuje nejak jako "Internet by E-mail, doctor ??? manual how to use
Internet by E-mail"?

                        Matej Cepl



Date:         Tue, 30 Dec 1997 14:53:09 MET
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From:         "Palikova Bronislava, Mgr., IC" 
Subject:      =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Re:_Diskusn=ED_skupina_o_programovani_MS_Wordu?=
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> Nevite nekdo, jestli existuje %subj%? Mam problem s Wordem97 (resp. mam
> jeden zcela spolehlivy system jak ho skopnout) a chtel bych se poradit
> co s tim. Nemam ale pristup na www, takze moc prosim o e-mailovou adresu
> diskusni skupiny.
>
> Zaroven bych se chtel zeptat, jestli nekdo nevite o dokumentu, ktery se
> jmenuje nejak jako "Internet by E-mail, doctor ??? manual how to use
> Internet by E-mail"?
>
>                         Matej Cepl
Problemu s Word 97 je vice, nektere (napr. tisk na ruznych
tiskarnach) jsou uz reseny servis packem na www.microsof.cz

Programovani jsem nezkousela, ale v tvorbe  www stranek
jsem narazila na nekolik problemu, spatne oznacovani typu
pisma, "rozhozeni" formatu tabulek. Pouzivam Office97
CZ z pocatku roku 97



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Date:         Wed, 31 Dec 1997 09:55:18 +0100
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From:         =?iso-8859-2?Q?Mat=ECj_Cepl?= 
Subject:      Re: Programovani ve Wordu
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        Pokud mam posledni prispevek Mgr. Pavlikove povazovat za vyzvu k
premene CSINFO-L na takovou diskusni skupinu, dovolil bych si
poznamenat, ze takova skupina skutecne existuje, kdesi na EMWACu, ale
nevim presnou adresu. Proto jsem prosil o jeji zaslani.=20

> > Nevite nekdo, jestli existuje %subj%? Mam problem s Wordem97 (resp.
> mam
> > jeden zcela spolehlivy system jak ho skopnout) a chtel bych se
> poradit
> > co s tim. Nemam ale pristup na www, takze moc prosim o e-mailovou
> adresu
> > diskusni skupiny.
>=20
> [Mat=ECj Cepl]  Ten postup je velice jednoduchy. Kdykoli spustim =
makro,
> ktere obsahuje metodu Application.OrganizerCopy
> (Object:=3DwdOrganizerObjectStyles) tak mi Word zcela spolehlive =
spadne
> (Dr. Watson ap.). Mame tady celou Office97 CZ na MS WinNT 4.0
> Workstation, po=E8=EDta=E8e jsou origin=E1ln=ED IBM PC 300GL, sit MS =
Windows NT
> 4.0 a MS Exchange 4.0.
>=20
> > Zaroven bych se chtel zeptat, jestli nekdo nevite o dokumentu, =
ktery
> se
> > jmenuje nejak jako "Internet by E-mail, doctor ??? manual how to =
use
> > Internet by E-mail"?
>=20
> [Mat=ECj Cepl]  Uz jsem ho dostal dekuji.
>=20
> WWW se st=E1le je=B9t=EC =FAsp=EC=B9n=EC vyh=FDb=E1m, tak=BEe =
probl=E9my s HTML se mne
> net=FDkaj=ED. Co se mne ale velice t=FDk=E1 (jsem pr=E1vn=EDk) jsou =
nepo=F8=E1dky v
> =E8=EDslov=E1n=ED odstavc=F9 (kdy ob=E8as zapomene =E8=EDslovat, =
tak=BEe m=EDsto odstavce
> 14.1.2. sm=ECle tvrd=ED, =BEe jde o odsdtavec 1.1.2.), ale s t=EDm mi =
asi
> nepom=F9=BEete.
>=20
> =A9=BBastn=FD a vesel=FD a prost=FD v=B9ech hr=F9z po=E8=EDta=E8=F9. =
Lidi jsou mnohem
> zaj=EDmav=ECj=B9=ED.
>=20
>                                       Mat=ECj Cepl



Date:         Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:44:32 +0100
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From:         Dan Lukes 
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On 31 Dec 97 at 9:55, Mat j Cepl wrote:

> nevim presnou adresu. Proto jsem prosil o jeji zaslani.

    V tomhle vam take neporadim.

> > [Mat j Cepl]  Ten postup je velice jednoduchy. Kdykoli spustim makro,
> > ktere obsahuje metodu Application.OrganizerCopy
> > (Object:=wdOrganizerObjectStyles) tak mi Word zcela spolehlive spadne
> > (Dr. Watson ap.). Mame tady celou Office97 CZ na MS WinNT 4.0
                                               ^^
   Preji Vam, abyste nasel lepsi radu, ale podle meho je problem v tom "CZ"
za Office97. Moje osobni zkusenosti se stabilitou US a CZ verzi Wordu,
Excelu, Accessu uz od rannych verzi az do soucasnosti hovori vyrazne v
neprospech CZ verzi. Nevim co tam pri lokalizaci delaji, ale az prilis casto
se stava, ze programove konstrukce (casto dokonce prevzate z examplu) v US
versi chodi bez problemu, v CZ tataz konstrukce chodi nespolehlive, nebo
nechodi vubec, na neocekavane side-efekty ci je jinak nedeterminovatelna.

    Zkusil jsem vami naznacenou konstrukci pouzit u sebe a v US verzi
chodila. To samozrejme neni dukaz, ze problem je tam kde rikam ...

    Jinak bych si dovolil pozadat ucastniky konference, aby nepouzivali pri
zasilani prispevku diakritiku. U konferenci, kde to nebylo ucastniky
dohodnuto je to povazovano za prohresek proti etikete, a ja zrovna takove
prispevky nevidim jako prilis citelne ...

                                    Dekuji

                                                Dan

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Date:         Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:03:35 +0100
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>Zaroven bych se chtel zeptat, jestli nekdo nevite o dokumentu, ktery se
>jmenuje nejak jako "Internet by E-mail, doctor ??? manual how to use
>Internet by E-mail"?
>
>                        Matej Cepl

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