December 93 Hunt Results
Vladimir Vrabec
vrabec at cs.felk.cvut.cz
Thu Jan 6 08:22:28 CET 1994
Vazeni,
zde jsou vysledky prosincove souteze The Internet Results. Zdravi
Vladimir Vrabec
---------- Text of forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 12:59:25 -0800
Sender: "Rick Gates" <rgates at nic.cic.net>
Subject: December 93 Hunt Results
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* THE INTERNET HUNT *
* *
* RESULTS *
* *
* FOR DECEMBER, 1993 *
* *
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The results are in, and the individual winner is:
Dave Dubin
dh Molde College
Molde, Norway
...who scored a perfect 48 points in an entry dated Date: Sat,
11 Dec 1993 01:15:57 +0100
And our team winners are:
Insomniacs Desperately Inventing Odd Teamnames Spontaneously
Willamette University
Salem, Oregon, U.S.A.
Congratulations to all the winners!
PRIZES
======
Each winning entry will receive:
* A one year subscription to:
"3W: World Wide Web Newsletter"
(for more info: contact 3W at ukartnet.demon.co.uk)
(thanks to Ivan Pope)
* A signed copy of
"The Internet Guide for New Users" McGraw-Hill, 1993 609 pgs.
(for more info: Gopher (enews.com) path=1/specialmcgraw-hill/dern
(thanks to Daniel Dern)
* A signed copy of:
"The Cuckoo's Egg" Pocket Books, 1989, 356 pgs.
(thanks to Cliff Stoll)
* A one year subscription to:
"The Internet Business Journal"
(for more info: contact Mstrange at Fonorola.Net)
(thanks to Michael Strangelove)
The winners will be contacted in the next few days for mailing
addresses.
GET WELL BRENDAN !!!
====================
I suspect that there are many who haven't heard, so I thought
I'd post the following message.
Brendan Kehoe, author of "Zen and the Art of the Internet", and
noted Net.personality was involved in a serious automobile
accident in Pennsylvania on New Years Eve. He suffered severe
head injuries and at last report was at Pennsylvania
University's Trauma Center.
Information has been available on the Usenet newsgroup
comp.org.eff.talk. Details on sending cards, phone info, etc.
can be found there.
Please join me and many others in wishing Brendan as speedy and
complete a recovery as possible.
ABOUT THIS HUNT
===============
Seems that we have some good electronic journalists out there!
Particularly on a general question (like number 8), there seems
to be a lot of material available. It would seem to me that
finding experts (question number 3) would also be a good use of
the Nets.
Another trend that I'm beginning to see is that more Hunters
are beginning to use local clients on the Nets. Thus I'm
beginning to see answers from Mosaic and WWW users. The terse,
machine readable URL (Universal Resource Locater) style answers
that you may see can usually be used by those of us not running
local clients. For those not used to this style, here is an
example, given to us by Dave Shield in the answer to question 4:
URL:
gopher://nutmeg.ukc.ac.uk/archive/uunet/archive/doc/obi
/USG/Health.Care.Security.Plan/report/forward.txt
The URL tells us:
the tool: gopher
the host: nutmeg.ukc.ac.uk
the path: archive/uunet/archive/doc/obi/USG
/Health.Care.Security.Plan/report
the file: forward.txt
...and Dave also gives us the actual gopher choices you'd make
if you connected to the host and traveled down through the
menu...
>From my home gopher (gopher.csc.liv.ac.uk):
Other Gopher servers
UK Gopher servers
HENSA/unix archive (at Kent)
The UNIX HENSA Archive at the University of Kent at Canterbury
The UUNET Archive
archive
doc
obi
USG
Health.Care.Security.Plan
report
<text of the report>
The point about formats like URLs is not just that they are
shorter, but that they are standardized, and therefore machine
readable by local client software like WWW and Mosaic.
Well, enough of this. Now it's time for...
THE RESULTS
===========
The sleepless nights you've spent over the last six months
learning the Internet are beginning to pay off in the newsroom.
Now, you can't get any work done during the day; colleagues
deluge you with questions about every subject imaginable and
expect answers instantly. The last straw comes when Rick Gates
and John Makulowich create an Internet Hunt for Journalists. An
anxious hush descends over the newsroom. Your colleagues expect
you to finish in the top five. The deadline looms. The pressure
builds. You unwrap the questions...
1. (5) There's been a lot of discussion in the newsroom lately
about the move to the Internet by corporate America. Someone
challenges you for data to substantiate your claims. What does
he consider good evidence? He'll take the number of firms with
a top level domain of .com, even though they might not be on
the Net. However, he wants to see the entire list.
[Rick: This is a tough question as it may be difficult to
define firms, and some folks confused hosts with domains.
Basically I accepted anything found that indicated around 7-10
thousand records in the .com domain. The number 8,193 appeared
most often... usually through the whois database at the
Internic. Francois Nguyen demonstrates...]
I used the whois command, my system has an old version,
and whois told me to contact NIC.DDN.MIL instead of SRI-NIC.ARPA
I tried that one using telnet and was told that
>Please be advised that all INTERNET Domain, IP Network Number, and
ASN
>records are now kept in the new Internet Registry,
>RS.INTERNIC.NET
.
It tried that last one and queryied it as follows:
1 [xterm] InterNIC > whois dom com
2 Connecting to the rs Database . . . . . .
3 Connected to the rs Database
4 Commercial top-level domain (COM-DOM)
5 Network Solutions, Inc.
6 505 Huntmar park Dr.
7 Herndon, VA 22070
8
9 Domain Name: COM
10
11 Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
12 Network Solutions, Inc. (HOSTMASTER)
13 HOSTMASTER at INTERNIC.NET
14 (703) 742-4777 (FAX) (703) 742-4811
15
16 Record last updated on 06-Jul-93.
17
18 Domain servers in listed order:
19
20 NS.INTERNIC.NET 198.41.0.4
21 AOS.ARL.ARMY.MIL 128.63.4.82, 192.5.25.82
22 KAVA.NISC.SRI.COM 192.33.33.24
23 C.NYSER.NET 192.33.4.12
24 TERP.UMD.EDU 128.8.10.90
25 NS.NASA.GOV 128.102.16.10, 192.52.195.10
26 NIC.NORDU.NET 192.36.148.17
27 NS.NIC.DDN.MIL 192.112.36.4
28
29 Would you like to see the known domains under this top-level
30 domain? y
31
32
33 Y
34 Aborting search 8193 records found .....
35 WARNING -> There are too many matches
36 Press return to continue... There are at least 8193 known
37 sub-domains:
38
39 0.COM Reserved Domain
40 1.COM Reserved Domain
41 10A.COM 10A Inc.
42 1776.COM 1776 Enterprises
43 2.COM Reserved Domain
44 There are 8188 more matches. Show them?
45
typing y will print the 8000 other companies.
if you used ftp rs.internic.net > file you will then get the
data into a file that contains not all the firms with the .com
top domain, because they were too many and also because the
data is too old (last record: 6th of July 93)
However, it coes from
24STEX.COM Midtown Computer Services
3.COM Reserved Domain
6SIGMA.COM Six Sigma Case Inc.
7.COM Reserved Domain
down to
ZORTECH.COM Zortech Inc.
ZST.COM ZST
ZUKEN.COM Zuken, Inc.
ZULTNER.COM Zultner & Company
ZUNIQ.COM ZUNIQ Corporation
ZYCAD.COM Zycad Corporation
ZYDACRON.COM Zydacron, Inc.
ZYGAENA.COM Zygaena Software
ZYMAX.COM Zymax Software Systems Ltd
ZYN.COM Zyn Systems
ZYXEL.COM Zyxel
it would be possible to get all of them using a limited select
(for example all the a*) but I think a 8000 list would be
sufficient as a good evidence about the move of the corporate
america to the net.
[From Francois Nguyen, Lyon, France]
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2. (7) Another challenge erupts in the wake of the first. This
one covers the number of electronic publications on the Net,
but boils down to the challenge to get the table of contents of
the most recent issues of the Economist and the New Age Journal
The TOC for the latest issue of The Economist and New Age
Journal can be accessed via gopher through "The Electronic
Newsstand" on gopher.internet.com. Here are the relevant
bookmarks:
Type=0
Name=November 27, 1993 -- Table of Contents
Path=0/collected/economist/Current Issue/112793.toc
Host=gopher.internet.com
Port=2100
Type=0
Name=November/December 1993 -- Table of Contents
Path=0/collected/new_age/Current Issue/110193.toc
Host=gopher.internet.com
Port=2100
[From Dave Dubin, dh Molde College, Molde, Norway]
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3. (4) The health section editor needs immediately some basic
background information on lyme disease, the names of at least
two experts as well as the names of five scientists on the East
Coast who are researching the disease and who are funded by any
agency of the federal government.
[Rick: The most popular place to find the experts was the
LymeNet Newsletter. Federally funded researchers were easily
found at the National Institute of Health gopher. Our team
winners, the, ahem, I.D.I.O.T.S. show us how it's done...]
Two experts in the field of Lyme disease:
1. David W. Dorward, Ph. D. dwd at rml.niaid.nih.gov
Senior Staff Fellow
Laboratory of Vectors and Pathogens
NIH/Rocky Mountain Laboratories
Hamilton, MT 59840
his address can be found by the following path, starting with
the Willamette University root gopher server at
gopher.willamette.edu:
/Other Gopher and Information Servers (menu item #9)
/Search titles in gopherspace using Veronica (menu item #2)
/Search gopherspace at NYSERNet (menu item #10)
keyword: lyme
/Lyme disease (menu item #43)
/Lyme disease: LymeNet Newsletter (menu item #1)
/LymeNet.v1n05 (menu item #6)
Dorward's name and address appear in this issue at the head
of the article titled: "Laboratory Diagnostic Tests for Lyme
Disease"
2. Kenneth B. Liegner, M.D.
Internal & Critical Care Medicine
Lyme Borreliosis & Related Disorders
8 Barnard Road
Armonk, N.Y. 10504
his address can be found by the following path, starting with
the Willamette University root gopher server at
gopher.willamette.edu:
/Other Gopher and Information Servers (menu item #9)
/Search titles in gopherspace using Veronica (menu item #2)
/Search gopherspace at NYSERNet (menu item #10)
keyword: lyme
/Lyme disease (menu item #43)
/Lyme disease: LymeNet Newsletter (menu item #1)
/(fwd)LymeNet Newsletter vol#1#14.
Leigner's name and address appear in this issue at the head of
the article titled "CHRONIC PERSISTENT INFECTION IN LYME
DISEASE"
Here are the names of five scientists on the East coast who are
researching the disease and are funded by National Institute
for Health.
They were found by gophering to:
gopher.nih.gov
/grants and research information (menu item #4)
/searching for biologists (menu item #4)
/search for all researchers funded by NIH (menu item #2)
search on keyword "lyme"
NOTE: the menu item each scientist is under is written after
his/her name..
Researcher #1.
BARTHOLD, STEPHEN W (menu item #11)
YALE UNIVERSITY
333 CEDAR STREET
NEW HAVEN, CT 06510
PERFORMING ORGANIZATION: YALE UNIVERSITY
TITLE Lyme disease--Pathogenesis and protection
Researcher #2.
KANTOR, FRED (menu item #12)
YALE UNIVERSITY
333 CEDAR STREET
NEW HAVEN, CT 06510
PERFORMING ORGANIZATION: YALE UNIVERSITY
TITLE Lyme disease--Pathogenesis and protection
SUB TITLE Protective epitopes important in Lyme borreliosis
Researcher #3.
MALAWISTA, STEPHEN (menu item #13)
YALE UNIVERSITY
333 CEDAR STREET
NEW HAVEN, CT 06510
PERFORMING ORGANIZATION: YALE UNIVERSITY
TITLE Lyme disease--Pathogenesis and protection
SUB TITLE Probes for Borrelia burgdorferi DNA in ticks, mice and men
Researcher #4.
FLAVELL, RICHARD (menu item #15)
YALE UNIVERSITY
333 CEDAR STREET
NEW HAVEN, CT 06510
PERFORMING ORGANIZATION: YALE UNIVERSITY
TITLE Lyme disease--Pathogenesis and protection
SUB TITLE A recombinant vaccine for Lyme borreliosis
Researcher #5.
ANDERSON, JOHN (menu item #17)
YALE UNIVERSITY
333 CEDAR STREET
NEW HAVEN, CT 06510
PERFORMING ORGANIZATION: YALE UNIVERSITY
TITLE Lyme disease--Pathogenesis and protection
SUB TITLE Core--Entomology and bacteriology
[From: Insomniacs Desperately Inventing Odd Teamnames
Spontaneously, Willamette University, Salem, Oregon, U.S.A.]
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4. (5) U.S.President Bill Clinton's Health Care plan has been
in the news lately. Your magazine has not kept up on the
discussion, but suddenly realizes the competition is planning a
major spread. You need to get the basic Health Care documents
put out by the Administration. Where can you find them, and who
wrote the forward for the plan?
>From my home gopher (gopher.csc.liv.ac.uk):
Other Gopher servers
UK Gopher servers
HENSA/unix archive (at Kent)
The UNIX HENSA Archive at the University of Kent at Canterbury
The UUNET Archive
archive
doc
obi
USG
Health.Care.Security.Plan
report
<text of the report>
e.g.
forward.txt
URL:
gopher://nutmeg.ukc.ac.uk/archive/uunet/archive/doc/obi
/USG/Health.Care.Security.Plan/report/forward.txt
[I'm sure there are more authoritative places,
but it's convenient for me :-)]
This starts:
Foreword -- Hillary Rodham Clinton
Together, we stand at a unique moment in history. In the
coming months, we have an opportunity to accomplish what our
nation has never done before: provide health security to every
American - health care that can never be taken away.
<etc, etc, etc>
Even *I* guessed that Hillary wrote the forward!
[From Dave Shield, Liverpool University, Liverpool, England]
-----
[Rick: You can also get the docs direct from, yup, the White
House. Joseph Gebis demonstrates...]
You can get the basic Health Care documents at
ftp.whitehouse.gov in the directory
/pub/political-science/Health-Security-Act/ report.
There is also info in /pub/political-science/
Health-Security-Act/legislation.
The forward was written by Hillary Rodham Clinton.
This can be seen by reading forward.txt in the directory
/pub/political/science/Health-Security-Act/report.
This site is talked about widely on alt.politics.clinton.
[From Joseph Gebis, University of Illinois, Urbana, Illinois,
U.S.A.]
===============================================================
5. (6) I have some students that need some training, and I seem
to recall a mention of DOS-based reporting simulations on one
of the journalism email lists. Could you find me prices on a
couple of these simulations?
[Rick: Questions that need listserv searches are not among the
most popular, but they can certainly be useful. Eric Thomas
has written some good software for searching listservs, but the
request needs to be nested within some arcane commands. Steve
Krans leads us through the whole process...]
[METHOD: Nice one Rick :-) This one definetly took more time.
Not knowing too much about the world of journalism, I turned to
USENET and poked around the FAQ Archive (same as Question #6).
In alt.journalism I found a FAQ on 'Journalism Resources on the
Internet'. In the file I found mention of an listserv mailing
list called CARR-L (Computer-assisted Reporting & Research),
but no information on whether there was archive for it. It
looked like a busy mailing list with 373 subscribers, so I
thought that would be a good place to start. I didn't know
much about listserv mailing lists, so I sent off commands like
'HELP' and 'INDEX' to see what was available.
I found CARR-L, but didn't quite understand why it wasn't
listed as a database that I could search. I read over the text
a second time, learned that you had to be a member of that
mailing list to access the archive, and then joined up. Then
it was just a matter of searching the CARR-L database for the
word 'simulation', and print out what came back. Whew... Only
6 points!?]
ftp to rtfm.mit.edu, login anonymous
ftp>get
/pub/usenet-by-group/alt.journalism/Journalism_Resources_on_the_Internet
[In the file I found:]
[...]
1. Discussion groups/mailing lists
1.1 carr-l at ulkyvm.bitnet or carr-l at ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU
Computer-assisted Reporting & Research
Owner =3D 3ZLUFUR at CMUVM (Elliott Parker)
373 subscribers in 18 countries
Subscribe: listserv at ulkyvm.bitnet
or @ulkyvm.louisville.edu
[...]
[I mailed off a subscription request to listserv at ulkyvm.bitnet,
then used the following database search mail command to get the
information:]
mail listserv at ulkyvm.bitnet
Subject:
Database Search DD=3DRules
//Rules DD *
Search simulations in carr-l
Index
Print
/*
[Which sent back:]
[...]
You could check out SuperScoop, an excellent simulation by
Peter Owens of University of Massachusetts-Darmouth.
It won an EDUCOM/NCRIPTAL Distinguished Software award in 1987.
It's available from both QUEUE 1-800-232-2224
and from WmCBrown 1-800-351-7671
Single copy price is $45 ... and I believe site licensing is
available.
Fire and Fatal, which were written by John Pavlik, who's now
with the Freedom Forum Media Studies Center in New York, are
distributed by Wayne Danielson Software. Single copy price is
$37.50. Danielson, who's on the faculty at U. Texas-Austin,
can be reached at 512-471-1996 or 512-476-0289. I don't know
for sure, but I believe he would be agreeable to some
multiple-copy discount or site licensing arrangement.
[...]
[ANSWER: $45 and $37.50]
[From Steve Krans, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis,
Minnesota, U.S.A.]
-----
[Rick: David Fuller found a couple of other packages. Since my
German isn't up to snuff I couldn't verify, but here it is for
the adventurous...]
Yanoff's list
telnet askhp.ask.uni-karlsruhe.de
login/password : ask
select 1 Search the database
search "journalism"
Two of the software packages listed are:
Bayshore Blast: A Reporting Simulation $49.95
City Council $20
[From David Fuller]
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6. (3) A colleague says he's heard that there's a place where a
lot of the frequently asked questions for newsgroups can be
found, but he can't remember it for the life of him.
[Rick the most popular spot by far is the archives at
rtfm.mit.edu. In fact most hunters didn't need to look for
this site, they already knew about it. The newsgroup
news.answers also has a lot of FAQs.]
- FROM: your unix prompt
- TYPE: gopher gopher.tc.umn.edu
- SELECT: 8. Other Gopher and Information Servers/
- SELECT: 2. Search titles in Gopherspace using veronica/
- SELECT: 6. Search Gopher Directory Titles at NYSERNet <?>
- TYPE: FAQ
(at the prompt asking words to search for)
- SELECT: 1. Usenet FAQ archives (rtfm.mit.edu)/
(how convenient)
- SELECT: 11. pub/
- SELECT: 39. usenet-by-group/
- THE ANSWER IS: rtfm.mit.edu
(this used to be called pit-manager.mit.edu)
[From The University of Central Florida Computer Users' Group,
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A.]
-----
I don't know if this counts, as I had some idea of the answer.
I remembered that there was some newsgroup where different
newsgroups posted there FAQs.
I went into news. I used GNUS, as then I could be in my editor
and search the list. Assuming someone has GNUS set up, here is
what I did:
emacs
M-x gnus
L (this brings up the full group list - not just the current
subscriptions)
M-x isearch-forward
faq
I didn't find anything with faq in the name. But then I
remembered that the meta-newsgroups were usually in the 'news.'
hierarchy, so I did:
M-x isearch-forward
news (and a number of repeat searches)
until I found:
news.answers
I entered the newsgroup and saw a whole bunch of FAQs listed.
[From Michele Marques, York University, North York, Ontario,
Canada]
7. (8) For a Sunday supplement, the paper is running a special
on Williamsburg, Virginia. No one seems to have any photos of
the site. The photo editor turns to you. While you're at it,
can you get a photo of a piece of quartz for a sidebar they're
doing on gems?
[Rick: The solution here was to either know that there's a
large photo collection at the Smithsonian Institute, (also at
sunsite.unc.edu) or to do an archie search on 'quartz', and
find Williamsburg at the same site.]
Once again, The SunSITE archives is the place to go. Images are
stored here on numerous topics, including natural science,
computing, people and places.
Anonymous FTP to sunsite.unc.edu
For Williamsburg, Va.:
cd pub/multimedia/pictures/smithsonian/gif89a/people-places
binary
get wberg.gif
For the quartz image:
cd pub/multimedia/pictures/smithsonian/gif89a/science-nature
binary
get ameths.gif
get cassit.gif
get quartz.gif
I vaguely remember seeing the quartz file before but the
Williamsburg image alluded me so I looked in the Smithsonian's
index:
cd pub/multimedia/pictures/smithsonian/catalogs/others
get PHOTO1.ASC
Search this file for "Williamsburg" and get:
WBERG
People-Places
Williamsburg's Bruton Parish Church
The Bruton Parish Church in Colonial Williamsburg, Virginia.
This Episcopal church has been in use since 1715. (This file
was made from a Kodak Photo CD. The CD file was imported into
Adobe Photoshop, cropped, and saved as a GIF. Original photo
taken during the National Press Photographers Association
Electronic Picture Workshop held in Williamsburg).
==Smithsonian Photo by Jim Wallace. Copyright 1992 Smithsonian
Institution. Do not reproduce without written permission.
"wberg" is the filename minus the file type (.gif in my case) and
"People-Places" refers to the directory people-places.
Search the same file for "quartz" and several hits will appear
describing images of a Purple Quartz Amethyst Crystal, Black
Cassitorite Crystals with White Quartz, and a 7,000-Carat
Quartz Egg.
[From Jonathan Bell, University of Tennessee, Knoxville,
Tennessee, U.S.A.]
8. (2) The Home and Gardening Editor is getting tired of
running the same old stories and wonders if there's some new
angles for a feature on gardening. Can you help him out?
gopher wealaka.okgeosurvey1.gov
15. VERONICA: BOOLEAN SEARCHES OF ALL GOPHERSPACE/
2. Search gopherspace at University of Cologne <?>
search for "garden" ("fall AND garden" led to an apparent
hangup in the "searching" phase)
44. Fall garden/
Some of the following files will probably have new angles:
1. 9-24 Leaves useful as mulch or compost.
2. 9-24 Perennial vegetables need some care.
3. 9-24 Prune chemical stores for safety and effectiveness.
4. 10-1 Dig those dahlias.
5. 10-1 Geranium pampering made easy.
6. 10-1 It's a good time to plant perennials.
7. 10-8 Cold brings insects.
8. 10-8 Feed your lawn now.
9. 10-8 Fall houseplant care.
10. Nov. 05 Living Christmas tree.
11. Nov. 05 Storing seeds.
12. Nov. 05 Indoor plants.
13. 11 12 Berries and shrubs for home.
14. 11 12 Fresh Christmas trees.
15. 11 12 Herb gardening.
[From The Leonard Ladies Hunt Team, Grades 7 & 8, Leonard
School, Leonard, Oklahoma, U.S.A.]
-----
Well, seeing as how this is the December Hunt, I thought a
little Holiday spin might be in order. Delphi has set up the
Internet Holiday Gopher, and if you gopher to delphi.com you'll
see;
Root gopher server: delphi.com
--> 1. A DELPHI INTERNET SERVICES HOLIDAY GOPHER WELCOME!.
2. A DELPHI ONLINE SIGNUP/
3. A FREE HOLIDAY FAX/
4. BOOKS AND STORIES FOR THE HOLIDAYS/
5. GRAPHICS/
6. HORTICULTURAL CARE AND IDEAS AROUND THE HOME/
7. MUSIC AND SONGS FOR THE HOLIDAYS/
8. RECIPES FOR THE HOLIDAYS FROM AROUND THE WORLD/
9. SPECIAL MISC. HOLIDAY ITEMS/
10. THE ROAD CONDITIONS DURING THE HOLIDAYS/
11. WEATHER REPORTS AND FORECASTS DURING THE HOLIDAYS/
Selecting #6 will give you;
HORTICULTURAL CARE AND IDEAS AROUND THE HOME
--> 1. Search for Horticultural Information <?>
2. Care for Mums, Poinsettia & others.
3. Care for Amaryllis & others.
4. Care for other holiday plants.
5. Info on Amaryllis #1.
6. Info on Amaryllis #2.
7. Lilies.
8. Holly.
9. Mistletoe.
10. Oranges as Houseplants.
11. Passion Flower.
12. Cut Flowers Care.
13. Plants Can Survive Your Holiday.
14. Selecting Flowering Plants for Christmas Gifts.
15. Wreath for that Special Holiday Greeting.
If that's still too conventional for him, he should check out
the following; this time I used Ed Krohl's "The Whole Internet
Catalog" on GNN's webserver,
URL:
http://nearnet.gnn.com/GNN-ORA.html.
[Even though GNN requires users to "subscribe" to the service,
the subscription is free and now that GNN supports forms new
users can get access right away (subscription info is for their
use in determining demographics for setting up rates for the
companies that advertise there, not to used as a mailing list,
etc.)]
Select "The Whole Internet Catalog" on Main menu
Select Gardening in the recreation heading
One angle that the average reader would probably find unusual
would be computers and gardening (Gee, where'd I get that idea?
:-) He could do stories on The Gardener's Assistant, a
shareware gardening program; how a gopher run by the Texas
Agricultural Extension Service can help with diagnosing
symptoms, causes, and controls for diseases in fruits, nuts,
trees, grasses, etc.; or all the helpful information to be had
in the Horticulture Guides at the University of Missouri.
[From Jonathan Neuenschwander, Purdue University, West
Lafayette, Indiana, U.S.A.]
-----
for this question I did the following:
got into gopher
used Veronica to search gopherspace
search gopherspace at NYSERnet
words to search for : gardening
42. Archive of e-conference about gardening <?>
words to search for: new unusual
(you get 40 entries)
1. djb at cbnews Re: Re: DID I JUST DISCOVER A NEW VEGETABLE?
[From The University of Central Florida Computer Users' Group,
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A.]
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9. (3) The Hawks and the Rockets are hot. When is the next
time these two National Basketball Association teams are
scheduled to play each other?
2. Search gopherspace at University of Cologne <?>
search for "sports AND schedule*"
17. Sports Schedules/
2. NBA Schedules <TEL>
Connecting to culine.colorado.edu, port 859 using telnet.
No user name or password was given for this telnet.
Teams can specified with or without leading -t, from the
following list:
atl-Atlanta Hawks
bos-Boston Celtics
cha-Charlotte Hornets
chi-Chicago Bulls
cle-Cleveland Cavaliers
dal-Dallas Mavericks
den-Denver Nuggets
det-Detroit Pistons
g.s-GoldenState Warriors
hou-Houston Rockets
ind-Indiana Pacers
lac-L.A. Clippers
lal-L.A. Lakers
mia-Miami Heat
mil-Milwaukee Bucks
min-Minn. Timberwolves
nj -New Jersey Nets
ny -New York Knicks
orl-Orlando Magic
phi-Phil. 76ers
pho-Phoenix Suns
por-Portland Trailblazers
sac-Sacramento Kings
san-SanAntonio Spurs
sea-Seattle Supersonics
uta-Utah Jazz
was-Washington Bullets
Divisions can specified with or without a leading -d, from the
following list:
pac - Pacific mdw - Mid West
ctl - Central atc - Atlantic
Welcome to the National Basketball Association Schedule Service.
<nba>
entered "atl hou" ("atl" or "hou" alone did not produce useful
schedules of future games.)
<nba> Upcoming games between the Hawks and the Rockets...
Tuesday, 2/15: Atlanta Hawks at Houston Rockets
[From The Leonard Ladies Hunt Team, Grades 7 & 8, Leonard
School, Leonard, Oklahoma, U.S.A.]
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10. (4) The music critic prepares a nostalgia piece on Bob
Dylan, but she can't remember the date of his performance at
the Royal Albert Hall in 1966. Can you help her?
Search gopherspace at Nysernet using Veronica for "bob dylan"
<a href="gopher://empire.nysernet.org:2347/7-t1%20%20>here</a>
gopher gopher.uwp.edu
4. Music Archives/
2. Artists- Archives by Artist name/
20. d/
182. dylan.bob/
2. discog.
In this file you can find:
Bob Dylan & The Band, Royal Albert Hall 1966
Swinging Pig TSP-CD-009
The famous electric set, which may or may not really be from
Albert Hall, 27-May 1966.
Tell Me Mama
I Don't Believe You
Baby Let Me Follow You Down
Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
One Too Many Mornings
Ballad of a Thin Man
Like a Rolling Stone
Like A Rolling Stone
Bob Dylan & The Band, Live at the Royal Albert Hall,
London May 27, 1966
Vulture Records VT 006 Total Time: 44:54
</pre>
Looks like answer is May 27th 1966.
[From The COGS Team, University of Sussex, Brighton, England]
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Well, I did another VERONICA search for DYLAN, and after wading
through the Dylan Thomas and DyLanguage items, I found an FTP
site with complete information on Bob dylan for the last 100
years or so. :> Its at URL
file://potemkin.cs.pdx.edu/pub/dylan
Here's an excerpt from 1966.Z :
----------------------------
May 27 Royal Albert Hall, London. This turns out to be the
last show of the 1966 World Tour.
[From Eric Lippert, University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario,
Canada]
Extra Credit: (1) During the (ongoing/recent) U.S. Shuttle
mission to repair the Hubble Space Telescope, which astronauts
were on the EVA crew for the COSTAR installation?
The info can be found by using the following gopher path,
starting at gopher.willamette.edu.
From the Willamette root gopher menu, here is the path:
/other gopher and information servers (item #9)
/search titles in gopherspace using Veronica (item #2)
/search gopherspace titles at NYSERNET (#10)
use search keyword "hubble"
from the resulting menu called "Search gopherspace at
NYSERNET:hubble" select:
/hubble (menu item #16) and go to....
/786 (menu item #25)
The astronauts on the EVA crew for the COSTAR installation were:
Tom Akers and Kathy Thornton
[From: Insomniacs Desperately Inventing Odd Teamnames
Spontaneously Willamette University Salem, Oregon, U.S.A.]
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By searching in the newsgroup sci.astro.hubble on the keyword
'COSTAR', I was able to find the following progress report,
indicating that the astronauts in question were Tom Akers and
Kathy Thornton:
>Astronauts Kathy Thornton and Tom Akers begain the mission's
>fourth spacewalk at 9:13 p.m. CST Tuesday. Once in the Space
>Shuttle Endeavour's payload bay, the duo removed the blurred
>High Speed Photometer from the telescope and installed the
>COSTAR in its place, completing the task about 11:35 p.m. CST
>Tuesday.
[From Dave Dubin, dh Molde College, Molde, Norway]
============================================================
Mystery Question: What organization did the grinding of the
main mirror for the Hubble Space Telescope?
(using gopher search from "Planet Earth Home Page" (XMosaic))
Open URL: http://white.nosc.mil/info.html
Select choice: GOPHER
Search term: Hubble
Chose gopher menu choice "sci.astro.hubble archive" Perused log
of articles posted to the newsgroup. In article #008, I found
this:
"The aberration was caused by the incorrect assembly of a
testing device (the reflective null corrector, to be precise),
leading the manufacturer (Perkin-Elmer Corporation, now known
as Hughes-Danbury) to believe that the mirror was correct when
it was not. Another testing device indicated that there was a
problem, but it was disbelieved because it was a less precise
test. Oops.
The backup primary mirror, fabricated by Kodak, is essentially
perfect."
--- written by: mark at cyclone.mmm.ucar.edu (Mark Bradford)
So, the mirror manufacturer (grinder) was Perkin-Elmer Corp.,
now known as Hughes-Danbury.
Final document Mosaic URL:
gopher://stsci.edu/0ftp%3awfpc3.la.asu.edu%40/pub/ \
sci.astro.hubble/archive/008
[From Greg Larkin, Viewlogic Systems, Marlboro, Massachusetts,
U.S.A.]
That's all folks!
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Student & Lecturer
Univ. of Arizona (602) 621-3958
1515 E. 1st St.
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